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ANACS Customer Service...... What Service?

TyrockTyrock Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
Been dealing with ANACS for years. Happy with them until now. In January the sent back 5 Morgans. In one of the slabs was a Chinese coin instead of my Morgan. I contacted them and they said they'd try to straighten things out. They asked me to send the error slab back. I did. I've called a couple of times, sent several emails and sent a letter. One day customer service said they'd have someone call me back that day. No call ever came back from them. They have yet to contact me about an insurance payment or details on their search for my Morgan dollar. Here's my question..... Is this an abberation or have other collectors seen such poor customer service with TPGs. By the way, I'll let you know how this all turns out. image

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  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I'm sorry to hear your story, but have to ask. What date and expected grade was the Morgan?
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    What kind of Morgan was it? If it was not real rare tell them what you want. Maybe like XX free grades so it comes out in your favorimage----------------BigE
    I'm glad I am a Tree
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Hey if it was a chinese auto dollar send it on over here! I'll buy it from you!image
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    do not send any more of your coins to anx
  • TyrockTyrock Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    It was a 1900 Morgan. They had graded it 63.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    "IT'S A NEW DAY AT ANACS"

    image




    (I'm not laughing at you......but at ANACS)

    All I've seen is a whole lot of NOTHING since JT took over. From the secret slab to the week after week of the "It's a new day at anacs" ads.


    Edited to ad.....ANACS USED to have probably the best customer service of any of the big 3.
  • TootawlTootawl Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭
    Hopefully this will change once IdahoGal arrives.
    PCGS Currency: HOF 2013, Best Low Ball Set 2009-2014, 2016, 2018. Appreciation Award 2015, Best Showcase 2018, Numerous others.
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    Tyrock, I would be mad if I were you, but at least it wasn't a priceless coin. If they can't locate your coin, then I agree with BigE. Ask for enough free submissions to pay you the value of the lost coin and then some. I bet anything they jump at the chance.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,350 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>do not send any more of your coins to anx >>



    Great advice. We know that PCGS and NGC never makes mistakes like this don't we? image



    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • I just sent 5 coins into ANACS in Nov or Dec and Two came back incorrectly labeled. They were both McKinley $1 commem's (1903) that came back labeled JEFFERSON's. It took a couple month's of talking and e-mailing before I just got them back Monday of this week correctly labeled. I still have to find out what they are going to do about the extra $12 shipping I had to pay to send back. I sent letter back with coins stating my unhappiness with how they were handling this and haven't heard anything back for weeks. I had called many times leaving message to be called back by the contact person I first talked to(not sure if I can give name) and he never returned phone calls. I finally got him one time when I called and that's when he said to send back coins so they could check them. Overall I'm very disappointed with their customer service at this time and this was my first submission and possibly my last. I'll update you on the outcome of this submission as it developes.

    Gem
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Aren't they in the process of moving to Texas about now?
  • Ok I know I am new here but.....


    When I went to drop off 2 coins there a couple of weeks ago the guy at Anacs told me that since they came out with their new slab that they have been flooded with requests for re-holdering (I think thats the term he used). Not to mention in the next few days they will be closing up shop and moving.


    It could just be the fact that they are flooded with requests and trying to move at the same time. It doesnt make it all right but I agree with the other post. I would ask for free submissions to make up for the lost coin.
    Bottom Feeder collector, Happy collector of Moderns
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    I've had a somewhat similar experience with their customer service. I have an ANACS graded 1885-O DMPL Morgan dollar that has hazed over in the holder. I don't believe it could be called DMPL any longer. I called CS about three weeks ago to ask what I needed to do to have it looked at for downgrading according to their grade guarantee. When I explained the problem the young lady on the phone first asked "what is DMPL?". Then she said she didn't know anything about a grade guarantee. I said all I wanted to know was if I had to pay to have the coin evaluated for downgrading. She didn't know, but didn't think they downgraded coins - they only graded them (I'm not joking those were her words). I asked to speak to someone that could answer my question, but she said they were all in the back. I asked if she could go get someone - no she couldn't leave the phone. Would she ask someone to call me back - OK - click - she hung-up without taking my number.

    Since then I have sent three emails asking the question and have yet to receive a response.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • I'm having a problem with them too..... I think they lost a customer.....
  • TonekillerTonekiller Posts: 1,308 ✭✭
    Folks GIVE them a break.

    You all know:

    ANACS is moving and in that process.
    ANACS has hired new customer service staff and Senior graders.
    ANACS is rolling out a new product.


    I summit 1000's of coins each year to the top two companies and if I let a "few" hiccups change my mind because of simple (frustrating) issues, then we would never use them again.

    But everyone knows whats going on so give them a chance to change it before you jump on the collective collector bashing band wagon.

    Business processes do not change over night nor will they until ANACS is settled in their new town. If your concerned then get your coins back or wait but no need to turn to a public form to bad mouth them yet.



    AND whats with all the HATE around here? Its a hobby.


    TBT


    edit to fix spelling
  • I just got back 2 coins from them late last week that they received on Monday, Feb. 6th. I paid for the 10-day guaranteed service plus the email notification. I never got an email notification and it took about 10 business days longer than the guarantee. I called and complained and they said I would get two free vouchers when I received my coins back. Well, no coin vouchers and no refund of the money I paid for the email notification. I called again and they told me to leave a voice mail for the president and he would call me back. At this point I wouldn't want to do business with them again unless they really clean their act AND refund me or credit me for the work that I paid for but they didn't perform.

    As for grading companies in general, I consider them to be unethical in many of their business practicesimage My main gripe is that they charge someone FULL price even if they reject the coin and send it back. This is unethical because we are being charged for the labor and materials of putting the coin in a slab and a worker enetering in data, yet we NEVER RECEIVE those services. I'm at the point of taking some these TGPs to small claims court and challenging them on the grounds of charging for services NOT rendered. TGP's should charge people only the cost the processing up until it is rejected. Anything more is theft and unethical.

    BigBen


  • << <i>Folks GIVE them a break.

    You all know:

    ANACS is moving and in that process.
    ANACS has hired new customer service staff and Senior graders.
    ANACS is rolling out a new product.


    I summit 1000's of coins each year to the top two companies and if I let a "few" hiccups change my mind because of simple (frustrating) issues, then we would never use them again.

    But everyone knows whats going on so give them a chance to change it before you jump on the collective collector bashing band wagon.

    Business processes do not change over night nor will they until ANACS is settled in their new town. If your concerned then get your coins back or wait but no need to turn to a public form to bad mouth them yet.



    AND whats with all the HATE around here? Its a hobby.


    TBT


    edit to fix spelling >>




    Unreal! You want people to give ANACS a break about losing people's coins? No!



    Jerry
  • "AND whats with all the HATE around here? Its a hobby"

    You're kidding me right? Last time I checked the business world works on competition and the delivery of services that are paid for by the consumer, not some charitable cause! Many of the folks here are working class people who spend $hundreds or thousands of dollars of dollars to grade their coins while the TGPs executives enjoy a multi-millionaire existence. They OWE it to a consumer to provide the service that was paid for.

    Now, mistakes happen, but what is making people angry is the response after the mistake, which in many cases is none. The TGP's are just taking the money and running and only try to save face when enough public ruckus is raised (typical for any large modern corporation unlike the old days of Sears and Roebuck, old IBM, etc). I say this as a small business owner who undestands the business side of the fence. If you make a mistake, just fix it and move on. 99% of the folks out their are very forgiving IF you take at least some time to help them resolve their issue(s). They only get bitter if you blow them off and get arrogant about things (of course this is a fact in any human transaction regardless). This is just part of the greater problem of larger corporation's increasing arrogance and irresponsibility as they consolodate power, as evidenced by bad service across the board for large modern companies.

    Just my 2 cents

    BigBen


  • << <i>Folks GIVE them a break.

    You all know:

    ANACS is moving and in that process.
    ANACS has hired new customer service staff and Senior graders.
    ANACS is rolling out a new product.


    I summit 1000's of coins each year to the top two companies and if I let a "few" hiccups change my mind because of simple (frustrating) issues, then we would never use them again.

    But everyone knows whats going on so give them a chance to change it before you jump on the collective collector bashing band wagon.

    Business processes do not change over night nor will they until ANACS is settled in their new town. If your concerned then get your coins back or wait but no need to turn to a public form to bad mouth them yet.



    AND whats with all the HATE around here? Its a hobby.


    TBT


    It all comes down to customer service!!! I don't have a problem if someone makes a mistake but once the problem is brought forward you must handle it in a professional and timely manner. I work with the public daily in a retail setting and CUSTOMER SERVICE is number 1, if you don't take care of the customer you won't have one. In my case which I listed earlier in this thread, there have been way to many customer service issues that have yet to be resolved. If it were my business... I would man up and take care of it in short order.(to let it sit and not call back is not the right answer) Bottom line is there is no excuse for poor customer service... hire more people if necessary.. your business depends on it!!
    Gem


  • My issue is that I bought a Peace $ VAM attributed in their slab off ebay.... I later found out it wasn't a vam after all.... Calls... emails... nothing.... All I want them to do is put the coin in one of their "normal" holders at THEIR cost so I can turn it.... I'll even take the loss... They could care less.... I dont care if they're moving... this has been over a month and a half......
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    <<This is unethical because we are being charged for the labor and materials of putting the coin in a slab and a worker enetering in data, yet we NEVER RECEIVE those services. I'm at the point of taking some these TGPs to small claims court and challenging them on the grounds of charging for services NOT rendered. TGP's should charge people only the cost the processing up until it is rejected. Anything more is theft and unethical.>>

    You might be able to get a lot of support for a class action. I've had the same thoughts myself. However, I think it would be hard to win because their defense would be that we are paying for their opinion and the plastic is a freebe.
    Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my hard drive?
  • Conder101Conder101 Posts: 10,536
    Correct, it is a common misunderstanding among submitters as to what they are purchasing. They are not paying to have their coins authenticated graded and slabbed, they are paying to have their coins examined, a professional opinion rendered and to have the coin placed in the appropriate holder Well for a body bagged coin it has beenexamined, you have the professional opnion, and the appropriate holder for a bodybagged coin is a flip, not a slab. So you got exactly what you paid for. I believe if you read through all their literature they explain all of that. So by submitting you agree to those possibilities and you got what you contracted for. All fees are therefore earned.
  • << I just got back 2 coins from them late last week that they received on Monday, Feb. 6th. I paid for the 10-day guaranteed service plus the email notification. I never got an email notification and it took about 10 business days longer than the guarantee. I called and complained and they said I would get two free vouchers when I received my coins back. Well, no coin vouchers and no refund of the money I paid for the email notification. I called again and they told me to leave a voice mail for the president and he would call me back. At this point I wouldn't want to do business with them again unless they really clean their act AND refund me or credit me for the work that I paid for but they didn't perform.

    As for grading companies in general, I consider them to be unethical in many of their business practices My main gripe is that they charge someone FULL price even if they reject the coin and send it back. This is unethical because we are being charged for the labor and materials of putting the coin in a slab and a worker enetering in data, yet we NEVER RECEIVE those services. I'm at the point of taking some these TGPs to small claims court and challenging them on the grounds of charging for services NOT rendered. TGP's should charge people only the cost the processing up until it is rejected. Anything more is theft and unethical.

    BigBen

    You're kidding me right? Last time I checked the business world works on competition and the delivery of services that are paid for by the consumer, not some charitable cause! Many of the folks here are working class people who spend $hundreds or thousands of dollars of dollars to grade their coins while the TGPs executives enjoy a multi-millionaire existence. They OWE it to a consumer to provide the service that was paid for.

    Now, mistakes happen, but what is making people angry is the response after the mistake, which in many cases is none. The TGP's are just taking the money and running and only try to save face when enough public ruckus is raised (typical for any large modern corporation unlike the old days of Sears and Roebuck, old IBM, etc). I say this as a small business owner who undestands the business side of the fence. If you make a mistake, just fix it and move on. 99% of the folks out their are very forgiving IF you take at least some time to help them resolve their issue(s). They only get bitter if you blow them off and get arrogant about things (of course this is a fact in any human transaction regardless). This is just part of the greater problem of larger corporation's increasing arrogance and irresponsibility as they consolodate power, as evidenced by bad service across the board for large modern companies.

    Just my 2 cents

    BigBen >>


    I must have been sleeping when I read this persons post- but I can cut and paste pretty good-

    BigBen- how did you submit your coins to Anacs? Was it at the highest grading tier they have?
    Have you not been following the simple fact that 1- they are in the process of moving- TO ANOTHER STATE!
    2- Since their news release of the 'NEW SLAB' they have been inundated not by just the 1000's, but 10's of thousands- and this is from folks like you.

    Unethical in business practice?
    You have never submitted coins to PCGS have you- be careful when you do it on the econo submission- that can take a few months to get back.

    I have to agree with TBT- you are bashing a very good TPG for no reason- EVERYONE MAKES A MISTAKE.

    DO YOU ALL LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE- better get bullet proof glass then-

    Relax- if you treat them with respect- like we should all treat each other- you will get it back 10 fold.

    Here's an example of kindness:

    I MH2 sent in a submission to Anacs via the Houston Money show(jan22/06), expected coins in roughly 3 weeks, I sent these via my dealer buddy- for a very good reason, well no coins to date- today, and I have talked to 3 folks at customer service- each one was polite and very apologetic- because they are being inundated with orders for the new holder coins- from angry- yes angry collectors.
    I told them I have no problems - just curious as to where they were in the food chain- at this time they are out of grading, and headed to the slabber guy- I asked about the grades- they pulled the info up- asked me a couple of simple questions - like what was being graded- and I responded with what my submisson was- I was given my grades- I am neither happy or unhappy- because I knew when I sent them what I was going to get- oh a couple did surprise me- which is a good thing. I THANKED them for their time, and said when ya move to Austin- I'll come by for a coffee- the last person on the phone- said she is making the move with the company, and would love to meet a kind person- I'll make the trip, and may drop off a submission in the process..

    Don't jump to irrational conclusions- try to work with them- not against them.

    And if you think you could win in court- I'd suggest you have ALL your ducks in a row- before shooting your mouth off- you might get Judge Judy!


  • xbobxbob Posts: 1,979
    I called customer service yesterday and got a mailbox full message. If they are in the process of moving, that's understandable. The reason was they sent me a credit statement for $40 on my last order. Perhaps the difference between old slab prices (which I got) and new slab/grading fees (which I had paid). This was an order in December. So I just sent an email about it.

    $40 back was an unexpected surprise. Plus they sent me a storage box that they forgot to include it in my order and a free grading coupon since I had to call and tell them that they forgot.

    So despite the "new day" transition problems, I'm a satisfied customer.

    I can understand how getting the wrong coin back would be very frustrating especially if not corrected quickly. Hang in there.
    -Bob
    collections: Maryland related coins & exonumia, 7070 Type set, and Video Arcade Tokens.
    The Low Budget Y2K Registry Set
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    IdahoGal is gonna have her hands full it seems.....when does the poor lass start work?

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • TyrockTyrock Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    Some very interesting answers to my post. Yes, I did ask for a free grading voucher on Jan. 23 and was told I'd get one. Haven't seen it yet. As a matter of fact, I think that I've been much more patient with them than the average person would have been. I understand that mistakes happen, that's why I've been patient, but there is no excuse for this kind of poor customer service. Look at it this way. Since contacting them on Jan. 20 to tell them about the error, the ONLY CALL I received from them was later that day when they called to ask me to send the Chinese coin back. That's the only communication from them over this whole matter. If they had sent me a simple letter informing me of what action was being taken, then this thread would never have been written. What if the coin had been worth $5000.00 and not $50.00? What that make a difference? Unfortunately, to this moment I still have not received a simple answer from them.
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A friend of mine submits coins for some of his customers. Last week, 3 of those coins came up missing.
    His order was returned and the missing coins were invoiced as if they were included, but they were gone.
    Phone calls have been no help so far.
    It's one thing to lose your own coins......But to lose someone elses ?? I'd be smoking .....
  • "And if you think you could win in court- I'd suggest you have ALL your ducks in a row- before shooting your mouth off- you might get Judge Judy!"

    morganhunter, hang on to your britches and slow down......My gripe is not that a business makes a mistake, but HOW it handles that mistake. In my case it was being charged for email service and not getting that email service. It was for a 10 day guaranteed service that took 25 business days. It was for not being refunded for the email service that I was charged for but never received, and not receiving an apology or any free vouchers to make up for the goof. I know where you're coming from but I don't appreciate being lectured on morality regarding business mattersimage I have a business so I know what the other side is doing. Public criticism of bad and unresponded behavior changes things for the better if other recourses have failed (the whole concept of the First Amendment on checking govt power). I have a right to address any grievance that I feel has been unresolved by normal means, and throwing stones from a glass house is a bad moral analogy to use in situations such as this. I hope ANACS changes for the better and forces positive changes in the TGPs through competition, that's why I used them in the first place. But bad behavior cannot be rewarded with silence.

    Cheers,

    BigBen
  • I hope ANACS changes for the better and forces positive changes in the TGPs through competition, that's why I used them in the first place. But bad behavior cannot be rewarded with silence.

    Cheers,

    BigBen


    Tehn I'm sure that you will post in here as to the outcome you recently had with JT, as you had in your new thread.

    Let us all in on the info.
  • morganhunter I'm not sure why you're carrying on as such, but I created a separate post on the main board for everyone to see. You seem to be personally offended by my earlier and legitimate comments on my ANACS experience, and I'm sorry you feel that way. I can't post my comments according to your rules and philosophyimage Public debate is good thing. Quashing it leads to furthers grievances.

    Cheers,

    BigBen
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I must be in the minority, as I have always had great customer service help from ANACS. I just recieved two shipments back recently with no problems. Additionally, I had an issue where they owed me a discount due to the delayed shipment of the new slabs to be picked up at FUN. This past order I simply wrote a note as I was informed to do by customer service that I was to recieve 5 day for economy price. I was just sure there would be a problem and I would get a call or a delayed order. No, everything went as planned.

    I cant say the same thing for another company(you figure out who?)

    jim
  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've only dealt with the "old" Anacs and have never had any problems.

    I won't be sending in any coins while they are moving. To do so, to me, is risky.

    I'd rather wait until that process is finished.

    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

    "Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."


    ~Wayne
  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    ANACS needs to shoot James Taylor. He has put the "Marketing Cart in front of the Operations Horse". He should have gotten the move behind them, gotten the new people in place, and only then rolled out the new holder and started the "New ANACS" campaign. Companies make this error all the time. They create the great marketing scheme which brings in massive business increases, and then they die a fast death due to their inability to perform.

    I think it would be a great thing if ANACS could give PCGS and NGC a run for their money. But I'm fearful they are blowing it. Very often in business you only get one chance. ANACS appears to be blowing their second chance.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    leave them raw and/or buy them already in holders and save yourself lots of headache and sleepness nights and stress

    it aint worth it

    if you are that stressed out over getting coins in plastic time for you to find another hobby life is too short and it aint worth it or your health
  • I'm not an ANACS submitter nor do I plan on being one. Why should I submit to them? I'm happy with PCGS.



    Jerry

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