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i am a new collector. i am planning to buy 1,000 pc of circulated ike clad dollar at $1.15 each. condition range from vf+ to au. and another item is 100 roll or two boxes of 2004 keelboat (P) at $3.50 a roll. but i only want to buy one item. which one is better to own it?. please give advice. thanks.
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    I'd go with the keelboats as they have a much better chance of moving upward in price, though I personally wouldn't bother with either choice.

    Welcome to the boards Jeniffer!
  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    I pick up rolls of Ikes at the bank at Face


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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i myself would not buy either

    but i guess in answer to your question if someone put a gun to my head and i had to buy one or the other i woujld buy the keelboat rolls
  • Neither!
    In my opinion your money could be better spent in other areas.
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    I would advise against both. Certainly dont buy the IkES the keels will have a slight chance of increase.
  • mirabelamirabela Posts: 5,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm kinda curious why those are the two choices. In any case, you're looking at spending over $1,000. There are all sorts of fascinating and truly rare things you could buy for that amount. It might be worth hanging onto your money for a while, buying a few books maybe, doing a bunch of reading & really figuring out what you want to collect & why before you drop that much money on anything.
    mirabela
  • Welcome, Jennifer image I wouldn't buy either---but if you're set on buying one, I'd buy 100 rolls of Keelboats for $350. The 1000 vf-au Ikes will set you back $1150 and IMHO aren't worth having.
    Curmudgeon in waiting!
  • nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    Welcome! If you want to invest $1000 in coins, it should be something you like. But, the two choices you list aren't really worth more than face value, in my opinion. Rather than buy QUANTITY, why not buy QUALITY? For example, buy a single PCGS graded draped bust silver dollar (like a 1798-1803) in VG. They are beautiful, rare, and hardly EVER go down in price. Show one to your friends, and they will be impressed. I have one in VF that I purchased in 1985 for $400. It's my favorite coin, and has trippled in value. I may never sell it, it's nice to look at, and I know that I made a good choice. imageimage
    I'm the Proud recipient of a genuine "you suck" award dated 1/24/05. I was accepted into the "Circle of Trust" on 3/9/09.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Neither. You need to do much more serious research before putting money into coins. The fact that you had to ask the question is all I needed to know.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭
    First of all... image

    Jeniffer...

    As some one who buys alot of Jeffersons and sells a few here and there... I've got to ask you why you're buying 100 rolls of P Keel Boats at $3.50 a roll when you could find them much cheaper.

    Secondly, even though I collect Jeffersons... I'd be remiss not to tell you to collect what you like, however depending on your budget, you might want to consider buying something else. You could probably buy a whole set of BU Jefferson nickels for what your spending on the Keel Boats... and you would probably make more money in the long run with that set.

    Again, welcome... and if I can help you, don't hesitate to pm me.

    Steve
    U.S. Air Force Security Forces Retired

    In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
  • thanks guys for helping me. another question is should i buy 2004 (5) pc statehood silver proof without sleeves at $14.95 against that with c.o.a. and sleeves at $29.95?.
  • Are you the Jeniffer I met in Pittsburgh??
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Hmm, Cammy's suspiciously absent from this thread. How things have changed!!
  • no, i am not her. i think i am more beautiful than her. just kidding.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i would not buy either

    but if i had a gun to my head i would choose the state quarter set with all ther sleeves and original coa all in totally mint condition
  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777
    Neither and neither- before you spend that kind of money, learn and absorb more and you might find options that make you happier in the long run.....
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bet shes blondimage
  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    I am confused. I always say collect what you like. I find it difficult to imagine someone liking a pile of circulated Ikes at a stiff premium over face value or roll after roll of nickels of the same date, or a passel of state quarter proof sets of the same date, unless he/she was more interested in investment than collecting. Whoever is offering these treasures is probably very happy to find a buyer at those prices because their prices are a bit on the high side.

    Personally, I would find some other places to buy if these are things you truly like. If you are looking for investments, these deals look like clunkers with poor odds.

    If a person is into quantity, then silver coins at melt, or copper Lincoln cent rolls at or near face value seem like they have more potential than any of the three deals offered.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I bet shes blondimage >>



    That's not very nice. Besides, I bet she's not.
  • what about a canadian 2005 uncirculated (25 pc) $2.00 coin roll at can $59.95?. it's offered by the royal canadian mint. they said it will be the last $2.00 coin.

    well, i am blonde. what else you guys want from me?. besides i liked those coins. and all you guys just against it. if i choose my right man. i think a lot of people will against it too.....i think i go for a nun. just kidding guys. i thank you for all the advise. i will cancel my order for those stuffs.
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i am sorry but this is a good move on your part my sweet

    also do not buy that canadain mint stuff either

    now here is a wab site take a look aounrd and see waht you like and waht interestes you


    coinfacts.com

    also my sweet please read all the articles on this site and re read them then you will be much better prepaired to make a decsison waht you want to collect

    www.tombeckeronline.com

    join it is free and you get more articles

    keep me informed and let me know how you are doing and pm me if you got any questions for me


    and whatever you do do not become a nun unless you got a calling from god like the little flower terease of the child jeses the little flower or teresa of avila the big flower

  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    Why don't you take the money and buy a cool, older coin? Not that there's anything wrong with modern stuff image
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The keelboats have a better chance to lose but also a better chance to gain. The downside on these
    is a pretty substantial loss. The Ikes are a sure bet in the sense they'll be worth $1.20 before too long
    in all probability. Even if this doesn't pan out you'll lose only the 15c. They're a sure bet in another way;
    there should be a few coins worth holding onto, perhaps even a few varieties. If I couldn't look at any-
    thing first I'd go with the Ikes. If I could spot check the nickels then I'd jump all over them if it's a nice
    batch.
    Tempus fugit.
  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608


    << <i>what about a canadian 2005 uncirculated (25 pc) $2.00 coin roll at can $59.95?. it's offered by the royal canadian mint. they said it will be the last $2.00 coin.

    well, i am blonde. what else you guys want from me?. besides i liked those coins. and all you guys just against it. if i choose my right man. i think a lot of people will against it too.....i think i go for a nun. just kidding guys. i thank you for all the advise. i will cancel my order for those stuffs. >>



    Its okay to like any or all of those coins. I have no problems if a person wants a roll of circulated Ikes for $23, or a roll or two of keelboat nickels at $3.50 or some of the other items in quantity one. But $1000 worth or even $300 worth of any of those? To my mind, that is crazy talk, unless that amount of money is lunch money for that person. Why so much into one type of item, especially when that one item has very limited resale value?

    Lots of new collectors have bought lots of stuff with little or no resale value, but at least you are asking before buying.
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For a thousand dollars I would buy one item. I would make it something rare (fewer than 25 known) and I would want it to be beautiful. Hmmmm... Now I know why I own so many tokens and world coins.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • StorkStork Posts: 5,206 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>no, i am not her. i think i am more beautiful than her. just kidding. >>


    I wonder if she meant another Jeniffer or Cammy. (Sorry couldn't resist the bad joke).

    Seriously, welcome this peculiar world and I would suggest looking around and reading a lot before buying. Decide what you like and buy it. If it's purely for investment potential, I have no idea, but perhaps for interest sake, look at what a type set is and see if anything grabs your fancy.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jeniffer007
    Good call.And I was kidding about the blond.I would do as RedTiger suggested,buy a few rolls of each.
    Not a 1,000 worth.
    Al..
  • my reason for acquiring 1,000 pc of ike is simply because a dealer is willing to buy $1.10 a piece of any quantity. and my dealer is selling one for $1.50, 100 for $120.00 and 1,000 for $1.15. that can be seen at their price list every month for both dealers. and a lot of young people (except collectors) like it. it is big, heavy and never circulated again. it is belong to or part of this current set. a long time missing piece. and besides, if i don't like it. i am only losing about $50.00 for 1,000 pieces. that is 5 cent a coin. and if i sell it at e-bay. i might gain some. i saw e-bay selling around $1.25 to $1.35 for 100 pcs. i can also use that to play cards with friends. instead of using plastic chips. why not a real nice coins. aside from this. children and new immigrants loves it too. a good gift for x'mas i suppose. another important reason is that 2007 new dollars series come out. will ike dollar moves up?. i noticed the old jefferson nickels dated 1969 and below have buyers right now. vg and above at eight cents to fifteen cents a piece. do you know it guys?.
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your rationale for buying circ Ikes doesn't seem to value your time very highly.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
    ..image......jeniffer007...................

    Learn.........collect.........enjoy.....................image
    ......Larry........image
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭


    << <i>my reason for acquiring 1,000 pc of ike is simply because a dealer is willing to buy $1.10 a piece of any quantity. and my dealer is selling one for $1.50, 100 for $120.00 and 1,000 for $1.15. that can be seen at their price list every month for both dealers. and a lot of young people (except collectors) like it. it is big, heavy and never circulated again. it is belong to or part of this current set. a long time missing piece. and besides, if i don't like it. i am only losing about $50.00 for 1,000 pieces. that is 5 cent a coin. and if i sell it at e-bay. i might gain some. i saw e-bay selling around $1.25 to $1.35 for 100 pcs. i can also use that to play cards with friends. instead of using plastic chips. why not a real nice coins. aside from this. children and new immigrants loves it too. a good gift for x'mas i suppose. another important reason is that 2007 new dollars series come out. will ike dollar moves up?. i noticed the old jefferson nickels dated 1969 and below have buyers right now. vg and above at eight cents to fifteen cents a piece. do you know it guys?. >>



    OMG my head is spinning. Are you Michael's alt or something?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <----I'm gonna quit selling metal roofs and start selling Tupperware, I think image.... Plastic is Up !


    bless you and welcome Jeniffer... buy from the mint and store the stuff. Don't try to take on a thousand pound beast just yet.

    read your words....you are speculating about "CENTS" using "DOLLARS"
    A numismatist speculates about "DOLLARS" using "CENTS"

    are you following me ?
  • FullStepJeffsFullStepJeffs Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>what else you guys want from me?. >>




    Uhm... you might not want to say something like that around here...

    Calling Russ... Russ? Here's your chance brother!

    Steve
    U.S. Air Force Security Forces Retired

    In memory of the USAF Security Forces lost: A1C Elizabeth N. Jacobson, 9/28/05; SSgt Brian McElroy, 1/22/06; TSgt Jason Norton, 1/22/06; A1C Lee Chavis, 10/14/06; SSgt John Self, 5/14/07; A1C Jason Nathan, 6/23/07; SSgt Travis Griffin, 4/3/08; 1Lt Joseph Helton, 9/8/09; SrA Nicholas J. Alden, 3/3/2011. God Bless them and all those who have lost loved ones in this war. I will never forget their loss.
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Forget about the modern bulk coins altogether. Find a nice much older coin encapsulated by PCGS/NGC/ANACS/ICG.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • carlcarl Posts: 2,054
    Completely ignore all these threads. If you want to really make a great investment, send the money to me.
    Actually I agree with most of the answers. Do not buy either. If you live in or near a big city, hit the banks for the Ikes if you really want them. Don't hit them, just go there and buy the Ikes for face value. If you are a single girl, get a boy friend that works at a bank and he will get you all the Ikes you want and possibly for less than face value. Or you can get a job at a bank and save on the boy friend.
    If your new to coin collecting, go out and spend a few dollars on coin books, read, learn and then send me the money left over or invest in coins that are worth something. Find out where there are coin shows in your area by checking out things like (your state) coin shows. Go to a few and look what is available. Bother the old people here with lots of questions. Many of them have nothing to do anyway.
    If all else fails, you can still send me the money.
    Carl
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Are you hot?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • speaking of going to a bank and change some ike dollar or westward nickels. i went to over ten banks around new york city and no one would have that time to entertain me. some even just simply say we don't have. maybe i lived in a large, busy, financial city. i remembered i just able to get some new rolls on statehood quarters during year 1999-2000. like connecticut, west virginia, maryland, new york, and massachusetts. but those years minted a lot of statehood quarters. and now i have pending b. franklin dollar. backordered, and the shipping date keep changing. should i cancel it?.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    FYI if you go to the top of the page and click on "customize", then scroll down, you will see an option to turn on private messages.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Robert
    I told you she was blondimage
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    Yes, yes you did.
  • Don't buy either one. Instead, invest in some silver.
    - -

    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • BaronVonBaughBaronVonBaugh Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭✭
    image


    I would go ahead with the Franklin dollars. They sold out and look to be a good bet to sell for more than you paid if you don't want them after you get them.


    Robert


  • << <i>i am a new collector. i am planning to buy 1,000 pc of circulated ike clad dollar at $1.15 each. condition range from vf+ to au. and another item is 100 roll or two boxes of 2004 keelboat (P) at $3.50 a roll. but i only want to buy one item. which one is better to own it?. please give advice. thanks. >>

    ...........Ike clads aren't going anywhere.......Buy a nice Gold Liberty Double Eagle and hope the market goes up.........image
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    buy one or two nice coins instead of a pile of crap

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,062 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>buy one or two nice coins instead of a pile of crap >>

    Words of wisdom from someone who knows what they're talkin' about.
  • i like another offer thru ads. which is 1,000 pc of new two dollars bill, series 2003, cost $2,295.00. or 15% above face. you guys gonna laugh at me again. i don't know. i just don't like old, antique coins. i fell in love with all u.s. mint new products. and my top choice is american eagle silver bullion uncirculated dollars. and the proof version too. modern commems and all kinds of modern u.s. coin sets. currently, i even like rolls from either mint or bank rolls. for foreign coins. i like u.k. britania series and chinese pandas.
  • image

    image

    Go big, or go home. image

    Either that, or a bunch of 10oz. bars. image
    - -

    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • im sensing a TROLL
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