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American Idol Season 5

For those that posted here last year about season 4 and are watching season 5 or any newbies watching season 5, what are your thoughts on this years show. I think Lisa Tucker has a huge advantage over several other contestants, seeing she was a former Star Search winner, but lost in final head to head champion vs champion round. I think that experience may help her along her way and help her go far.

Tonight, Stevie Scott has to go, I also think Brenna Gethers needs to go after that performance.

For the guys, I really did not like Jose "Sway" Penala and think he should go along with Bobby Bennett, even though he has a great personality.


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To keep this from being OT, hmmmm Do you think that UD will produce a set of cards this year? I personally don't.
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  • I think the women are much stronger than the men this year.

    My prediction of the top 5 (in no particular order):

    Women
    Mandisa
    Lisa Tucker
    Paris Bennett
    Kellie Pickler
    Katharine McPhee

    Men
    Ace Young
    Bucky Covington
    Chris Daughtry
    Elliott Yamin
    Taylor Hicks

    The number 6 spot for each sex is a toss up.

    On topic: I wouldn't buy the cards even if Upper Deck did release them this year.
  • I bought the cards from season 3 because they were really cheap and turned around and sold them for a profit.

    Season 4 I bought because I liked most of the singers, but I busted on that purchase due to the high price of boxes.

    I don't think I would touch a season 5 unless it was really spectacular and decent priced.


    Back to the show.

    Kind of disappointed about 2 of the people leaving. Thought that Becky shouldn't have gotten the lowest number of votes, but felt she really didn't have a chance at the top 12 anyways.

    Patrick Hall was another somewhat shocker, but I guess people didn't like the Patrick Dempsey/DJ Qualls type of look/sound. I thought Jose, David, and Will were worse.

    For women, I would add Ayla Brown to your list of 6.

    For Men, I don't know if Bucky will make it over all of the youngsters. I think Kevin has that outside chance do to the different look and somewhat odd cuteness factor. Clay fans will probably vote for him. I also think that there will be major support thrown at Gedeon seeing he is the only African American singer in there this year for the guys, so I could see that helping him make the top 12.
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    I really like American Idol but really the only thing that's going to make people a star afterwards is the right songs. All of the winners are great singers but I honestly can't name one song from anybody ever on that show except for Kelly Clarkson. She comes out with hit after hit. It's all about having great songwriters.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi guys

    Last year's thread was American idol MOJO - glad to see a new one made for season 5!

    I'm a big fan - here's my thread that got sent over to the open hole and got slammed:



    << <i>This has nothing to do with sports cards or memorabilia - but I have to keep my thread count up!

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    I'm a fan - it's sometimes a bit much - but as a music enthusiast - I always like to see new talent.

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    My early prediction for the winner after only one show. Check her out and see how much she has developed in a short time from the beginning to the show last nite!

    But then again, here's my "prohibitive" favorite from last year!

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    So if you missed one of the better early singing performances - try the link - if still working - will showcase one of the stonger performers.

    I really like Taylor Hicks - just something about his "way" that I like.

    I look forward to our discussions and your input! I like to call it "Idle" Chat.
    thanx
    your friend
    mike
    Mike
  • I think Mandisa, Lisa, and Paris will run into the "Diva" problem like in AI 3.

    If you really think about it:

    Mandisa = Jennifer Hudson
    Lisa = LaToya London
    Paris = Fantasia

    I like Katherine too, hopefully she doesn't get arrogant. I can't stand that when contestants do that.


    I also really wish Fleer would have came through on AI Season 3 and had the Auto'd William Hung and Reality Bits Trading cards like they listed on their Checklists. Those would have been awesome! If I had my way, I would have made the ultimate AI trading card product out there, but stupid Fleer messed things up! I am so glad those A**holes went bankrupt!
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    For those who thought she was hot...

    America voted and hot's NOT enough?



    << <i>the Auto'd William Hung and Reality Bits Trading cards like they listed on their Checklists. >>



    Woulda been a cool card!

    The links change for the site I found.

    Here's an update of the link for Katherine Mcphee if someone didn't hear her the first night.

    She's really good!

    mike
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like Katherine too, hopefully she doesn't get arrogant. I can't stand that when contestants do that. >>


    Check out my updated link on Katherine's performance on nite 1.

    Listen to the beginning of the interview:

    she refers to Barbara Streisand - and references someone she looks up to in "the business" - she may be a "ringer" - an amateur probably would not have referenced someone they idolize "in the business" if you know what I mean?

    mike
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And,

    if anyone missed little Paris - what a power voice contained in a very small package!!!

    mike
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And last...

    And, on his way to Hollywood!!!

    My favorite of the men - Taylor Hicks!
    And Simon had to eat his words!!!

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    edit: just wanted to say that I'm not into the pretty boys and Elliott may be the best singer I've heard on AI - and I like the fact that he doesn't look like he just stepped out of Vogue Magazine!
    Mike
  • Lisa Tucker isn't a slouch either, she would have won Star Search when she was 13 and already have a recording contract if it wasn't for Tiffany Evans.

    It's funny watching all the former Star Search People trying out for American Idol.

    From the ones I've seen (I think I'm missing one, but I can't remember who)

    Josh Strickland (AI 2, didn't make it past the hollywood rounds, didn't win his regular challenge)

    Nadia Turner (AI 4, Lost in a head to head challenge against Winner Circle champion Jake Simpson)

    Jessica Sierra (AI 4, Lost in head to head challenge against Winner Circle champion Jake Simpson)

    Lisa Tucker (AI 5, Lost in Champion vs Champion finals against Tiffany Evans)

    I haven't checked to see what prices on AI cards are going for now that season 5 is on, but I did sell my Constantine Auto /100 for over $100.

  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It's funny watching all the former Star Search People trying out for American Idol. >>


    Very interesting...

    I didn't watch Star Search but it makes sense! These people are just too good on the stage not to have had a lot of experience.

    Thanx for the info.

    mike
    Mike
  • I am a little disappointed with the Best and Worst DVD set AI released.

    They really should have had more on the DVD's and missed out on some great performances.


    Also, why didn't they have the following Auditions on the worst?

    Dino Yazzie - Greatest Love of All

    Edgar Nova - Escape and some song in Spanish along with the unseen 3rd audition in season 3.


    They really dropped the ball on not having those.

    I wouldn't think they would have to get permissions from the singers, so people like Juanita Barber and her rendition of What about the chilrun could have been on there.

    I did learn one fact I never knew from the DVDs though. Carrie was born with a third nip which she has since had removed.

    I personally can't wait to see how they go about the American Idol Syndication on Saturdays. I didn't watch the first season, so hopefully they show quite a bit from all the performers and not just Kelly, Justin, and Tamyra.

    Maybe one of these days I'll be able to find a case of AI season 4 for dirt cheap like AI season 3 was. Those were like $8-$10 a box and you usually got 2-3 hits per box Auto/Memorabilia wise. I think there was one hot box per case with all 12 autos also.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Carrie was born with a third nip which she has since had removed. >>


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    Mike
  • Yeah, I felt the same way hearing that on the DVD during her Audition. I guess that's one of the things you can't talk about on TV. The DVD set was definitely a waste of money. They do have extended auditions, but a lot of the other content got cut down big time from the show. I believe I still have most of the AI season 2 on VHS. Trenyce was my favorite and it sucks that they didn't have any of her performances on the DVD like Let's Stay Together or I Have Nothing.

    I really wish they would get the rights to be able to release full seasons of American Idol on DVD. I would love to see a huge DVD set with all the extras from beginning auditions to the final show. I'd pay the $$$ for a complete set.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For the AI fans...

    Here's a good video of Carrie Underwood - Jesus Take the Wheel. Last years AI winner.

    And for those who want a barometer of the quality of the singers that have passed thru AI.

    Clay Aiken won the AMA "Fan's Choice" award - the competition? Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, 50 Cent, Matchbox 20 and Tim McGraw!!!

    And Clay didn't even come in first in the AI competition!!! For those who didn't see that season, he was runner up to Ruben Studdard.

    This is a great entertainment show.

    edit: Songs I would like to hear Taylor Hicks sing: Unchain my Heart by Charles, Where Eagles Fly by Joe C., Desperado by Eagles, or something by Michael McDonald. And if allowed, a harmonica solo within a song.

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    Mike
  • Wow, what a craptacular show. A huge disappointment!

    Hopefully America gives Kinnik and Brenna the boot.

    I still think the 6 will be Kellie, Ayla, Paris, Lisa, Mandisa, and Katherine.

    Mike, I know you would love a Katherine Sealed with a Kiss card. image
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BORING!

    That's my overall impression.

    Most of the evening I thought I was either in a karaoke bar, wedding or beauty pageant!

    Bright spot?

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    The "little engine that could" - I think Kellie has a lot of promise to break out and shine!

    Let's see how the men do?

    Seacrest
    Out!
    Mike
  • Here you go MikeAmerican Idol


    Before the show tomorrow, I say Sway and David are the worst.
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    << <i>Anyways, Katherine is not so humble, she's overzealous, she's bossy, she's a b*tch, and they totally portray her as being the sweet girl. >>


    Interesting read and thanx for the link - she may have sour grapes but there's probably a lot of truth in her interview.

    I don't know how true this is. About Katherine i.e.

    But remember how I picked up on her referring to "the business" - I think she's a highly trained "ringer" type - and not someone who fell off the turnip truck into idol-land if you know what I mean.

    I hope my man comes thru - Taylor is my favorite.

    I would really like him to sing - "Unchain my Heart" by Ray Charles!

    Seacrest out!
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's one...

    What if Simon had to judge some of the "immortals?"
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    I rewatched the recap of the singers and still feel Kinnik and Brenna should go. I wouldn't be sad seeing Melissa go this week either, but I'd rather see Heather stay one more week for the eye candy factor. image

    Anyways, is it just me or does Kellie Pickler sound like she should be making big bucks doing Shake-N-Bake commercials.
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    << <i>Anyways, is it just me or does Kellie Pickler sound like she should be making big bucks doing Shake-N-Bake commercials. >>


    Sure, calimari shakers!

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    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    OMG, Ace was HORRIBLE!!!!!

    Had to post that, even though the show isn't even half over. Sad thing is he'll survive no matter what anyone else does.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Overall...

    I thought the show was OK...

    I liked the job that Elliot did and the last performance was probably the best of show.

    mike
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    Yeah, it was much better than the girls. I wish Taylor would have picked a better song.

    I still say David and Sway should be the bottom 2.
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    I'm not too familiar with the names but that guy who did Thunder Rolls absolutely blew me away. His voice is very similiar to Garth Brooks. He really doesn't have the superstar look though. When I saw him in his interview, the whole thing just screamed redneck city. But, man, he can sing, at least country music anyways.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Do not remember all their names, but that 16 y.o. kid with the lisp can go and the guy who sings like Sinatra can go. Thought that Taylor Hicks did ok. He should be one of the better ones, he already has a CD out.


    Stingray
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    i agree with NBAfan, i want Brenna & Kinnik to go home (i cant stand Brenna).. i also agree about David & Sway.. send them home..
    ·p_A·
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    I have a feeling Heather might get the boot, like Becky did last week.

    I'm hoping it is Kinnik and Brenna though.

    David and his goofy smile NEED to go!

    I'm hoping that he is gone. Sway over sang and tried toooooooo many runs. Will could be a surprise exit. I think it's between the 3. I think Kevin's oddball "cuteness" saves him for another week.

    Although many people don't think Gedeon will be in the top 12, I'd almost bank on it, seeing he is the only African American Male in the competition. He is also a good singer, so that helps even more.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gedeon sang well last nite also.

    mike
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    Way to go America by kicking another good looking girl off.image

    Anyways, Kevin in the bottom 3 was some what of a surprise, I guess people felt he was safe and didn't bother voting much, or he really doesn't have that much of a fan base.

    Next week will be interesting for the guys at least.
    (Girls should be Kinnik and Melissa)

    Depending on how heavy people vote, could make it very surprising.

    I would predict that Will gets the boot along with Kevin after being in the bottom 3 this week. You never know though, there have been big surprises in the past.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No surprises this evening.

    See ya next week.

    Seacrest out.
    Mike
  • Mandisa was strong tonight.
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    << <i>Mandisa was strong tonight. >>


    Boy do I dislike that song but she was off the chart!

    She broke my TV screen with some of those hi notes!

    mike
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Based on past performances and popularity to date: the two women who will be "packin?"

    Kinnik

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    Melissa

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    Maybe a surprise in the bottom? Ayla?

    mike
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    I did not care for Ayla's performance. I'm beginning to feel that this show really is rigged and like was already stated that they already have who they want for the top 12. Personally Ayla was bad and Simon praised her.


  • << <i>I did not care for Ayla's performance. I'm beginning to feel that this show really is rigged and like was already stated that they already have who they want for the top 12. Personally Ayla was bad and Simon praised her. >>




    I don't know about rigged, but there is a definite favorite 5 out of the girls--Lisa, Kellie, Paris, Katherine and Mandisa.

    I think everyone here believes the bottom three tonight will be Ayla, Melissa and Kinnik, with whoever surviving being the first girl booted off in the top twelve round.

    As for the guys, I think there is a favorite 4--Ace, Chris, Elliot and Taylor with the other two spots up in the air (although I'm pretty sure no matter how well he does tonight, Bucky will be booted).
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • Well, I thought Taylor was tops tonight. I'm not good at predicting who will get ousted. Anyone else?
    Nick
  • I felt Bucky was a definite goner before last night. Now I'm leaning towards Will (Fred Savage wannabe) and Kevin.

    I'm still sticking with bottom three on the girls as Ayla, Kinnik and Melissa, with whoever surviving being cut next week.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • Can you believe Bucky survived another cut-down?
    Nick
  • Surprised he survived and Gedeon left? Yep.

    Surprised Chicken Little survived? Absolutely.

    Behold the power of the nerd appeal on america.

    I think this is going to be one of those very difficult years to predict the clear cut winner. I think the majoirty of voters last year knew Carrie was going to win. We don't have that this year. There are 6+ clear cut solid choices this year, 9 depending on how you look at it.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Revenge of the Nerds II:

    I knew that Kevin would get the surprise vote but Gedeon sang well!

    I thought that Bucky was gone...

    He was lucky.

    Kevin doesn't belong in the final 12 but that's what makes the show - actually - interesting.

    I had said that Ayla was my surprise bottom and out - what made this a reality?

    Melissa didn't sing badly and Simon told her to pack - this may have moved some Ayla votes to Melissa?

    Well, it will get interesting from here.

    I think my man Tylor got down in singing Talkin It to the Streets!

    I knew he could sing a McDonald number - I still want him to do Unchain my Heart by Charles!

    see ya next week
    Seacrest out!
    Mike
  • I'm waiting for Taylor to sing a Joe Co cker song and do the mannerisms as well.

    Now that would make great television.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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    Looking for Al Hrabosky and any OPC Dave Campbells (the ESPN guy)
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    Gedeon was good and I guess didn't get the support I thought he would. Only the second year without an African American Male in the top 12.
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    << <i>I'm waiting for Taylor to sing a Joe Co cker song and do the mannerisms as well.

    Now that would make great television. >>


    It would be trite but he could do a good job with the theme from Officer and gentleman - where eagles fly or something.

    mike
    Mike
  • I'm predicting Mike has got the McPhee-ver tonight. image
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The nite was interesting

    Some of the performances were kind of boring.

    My bottom 3 for Wed nite: Kevin, Bucky and Melissa.

    keep it real
    mike
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    I cringed when Melissa forgot her words. Don't know why, but I really felt bad for her. I think she'll be going home because of it.
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    << <i>I cringed when Melissa forgot her words. Don't know why, but I really felt bad for her. I think she'll be going home because of it. >>


    There was a point in Kellie's performance where it looked like she got lost.

    Who "made" her up to look like a Barbie doll? Did she have the prom to to to after AI?

    She was totally out of character.

    mike
    Mike
  • NBAFanNBAFan Posts: 744
    If you haven't already heard, Kellie is a Fake and a Liar.
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