How out of control is ebay sniping?

seateddime

Is it unfair to snipe or just the way it is these days?

It used to be on Ebay, now getting snipped on Heritage too!

AU58WALKERS

exactly what do you mean by "out of hand"?

coinnut86

there is nothing wrong with sniping.

seateddime

Why bid on anything unless there is a minute? Have been outbid on 100 coins by $1 or less by snipers. Now I feel like a cheat since I got a snipe program and I started to actually win coins.

Barry

Nothing is "out of hand" about it. A bid is a bid, whenever it comes. With all the shenanigans on Ebay (i.e. shills) the only way to protect one's self is by sniping.

poptopsRus

I love ebay snipers

Cladiator

Your high bid is your high bid, regardless of when you enter it. If an item sells for more than your high bid then you should have bid more or you didn't want it at that price anyway.

seateddime

so you all think snipers are good? the program I got is on onbidder.net is there anything better?

Vet

<< <i>Your high bid is your high bid, regardless of when you enter it. If an item sells for more than your high bid then you should have bid more or you didn't want it at that price anyway. >>

dthigpen

I have a surefire way of defeating any and all snipers. I place my high bid initially and forget about it. If I get it under the price I want, great - if I don't, I would have paid too much anyways.

LincolnsRule

Not sniping is throwing money away. (It gives the others plenty of time to rethink their bid, and up yours).

goose3

<< <i>I have a surefire way of defeating any and all snipers. I place my high bid initially and forget about it. If I get it under the price I want, great - if I don't, I ould have paid too much anyways. >>





that is exactly what I do.

coinnut86

You bought software to snipe?

ksteelheader

seateddime,

Please have smoe with your whine!!

Cladiator

<< <i>Not sniping is throwing money away. (It gives the others plenty of time to rethink their bid, and up yours). >>

Hey, up yours too buddy!


haha

seateddime

"You bought software to snipe?"

I shelled out $29 for this
link maybe I cancel it, is there free software around???? Send a link

AU58WALKERS

If you bid your max than you didn't get snipped,
someone just wanted it more than you.

Since i discovered "sniper" software i place all my bids that way, 6-7 days in advance.
I always place my max bid with sniper software.

The last 15 coins i bid on i was outbid either prior to "sniper time" or by another sniper
that wanted it more than i.
I don't feel cheated or have any remorse that i didn't bid "enough"
I had bid my max.

With sniper i don't have to sit in front of the computer screen cycling the frefresh button and i can also
be bidding on multiple coins that close at the same time.
Long live the sniper

Sniper says " If you run..you will only die tired"

goose3

my wife wanted me to get snipped after our 3rd.

seateddime

"Since i discovered "sniper" software i place all my bids that way, 6-7 days in advance.
I always place my max bid with sniper software."

What do you use?

Outhaul

What's wrong with sniping? If you bid your max and get outbid and complain about it then it looks as though you were willing to pay more but you're a friggin cheapskate.

coinnut86

why use software? I do it myself.. for free

AU58WALKERS

http://www.auctionsniper.com/default.aspx

seateddime

"my wife wanted me to get snipped after our 3rd. "

That hurts more than any coin I every lost

seateddime

"http://www.auctionsniper.com/default.aspx "

why pay a fee per auction if onbidder.net lets you have unlimited snipes?

AU58WALKERS

At .25 per snipe i will be thru before i snipe $30 worth.

coinnut86

why pay at all ?

kiyote

Before sniping, the highest bidder would get the coin. Now that there' sniping, well... never mind. Nothing has changed!

Russ

<< <i>Now I feel like a cheat since I got a snipe program and I started to actually win coins. >>



You're kidding, right?

Russ, NCNE

fc

i agree. why pay at all?

simply put your high bid in and check if you won later.

sometimes I will watch a coin I do not really want due to its
price. when it is closing people are still slowly bidding with
spirited interest. obviously the price is way low for the coin.

so in the last 10 seconds you see a flurry of "snipes", heh.
until the big cheese comes along and blows away all the snipers
with a true bid of what the coin approx sells for normally.

so, just bid what you think it is worth, one time. when it happens
is irrelevant.

MAD4MORGANS

If you place a max bid too early you may be setting yourself up for getting shilled.

Same as if you are at a real auction and there area others there bumping up the bid.

You don't know if they are shill bidders or not.

On eBay, I place my high bid within the last few seconds of the auction.

I am a sniper and wouldn't have it any other way (unless I BIN it that is)!!

IrishMike

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<< <i>I have a surefire way of defeating any and all snipers. I place my high bid initially and forget about it. If I get it under the price I want, great - if I don't, I ould have paid too much anyways. >>





that is exactly what I do. >>



Exactly, decide what the coin is worth to you and bid it. If you lose you were saved from overpaying. If you win you bought the coin for what you were willing to pay.

Coinhusker1

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<< <i>I have a surefire way of defeating any and all snipers. I place my high bid initially and forget about it. If I get it under the price I want, great - if I don't, I ould have paid too much anyways. >>





that is exactly what I do. >>



On average you guys end up paying too much. If instead you set up a snipe at your max bid, then your bid will not be run up by "inchworms".

fc

inchworms, funny term but accurate.

you are assuming the person placing the reasonable bid
loses their head and bids 10 times poopsheet.

you have to get in the frame of mind that your one bid is
reasonable, not moon money. just an honest bid that most
sellers will probably see as "reasonable".

1977topps

<< <i>so you all think snipers are good? the program I got is on onbidder.net is there anything better? >>


Snipers are neither good nor bad, they are bidders just like anyone else.

LindeDad

Those inchworms and shills make the charges for AuctionSniper.com cheap.
JMO

ms70

Russ

<< <i><< I have a surefire way of defeating any and all snipers. I place my high bid initially and forget about it. If I get it under the price I want, great - if I don't, I ould have paid too much anyways. >>

that is exactly what I do. >>

On average you guys end up paying too much. >>



If they're placing their max at what they're willing to pay they can't be paying too much. Your premise is correct, though, but should be restated as "paying more than you have to."

Russ, NCNE

seateddime

If I throw out max bid and loose by a lot I don't care, heck if someone wants to pay more than me they should get the coin but when I bid a coin up from $20 to $200 with a max bid of $405 on a coin that some wins on a snipe of $406 that just sucks. Had the bid been $200 when the sniper came in I would find my bid wins if I snipe it at the end with a $405 bid.

It must work because since I got that program I won 9 lots 3 at close to my max bid all on the snipe and the wons I lost I was fine to lose at the price they sold for.

BigD5

<< <i>I love ebay snipers >>



Ditto!

Myqqy

I'm always amazed that threads get created about the insidious problem of sniping.....

ziggy29

There's nothing wrong with eBay sniping per se; the way the system is set up, I think it's foolish NOT to snipe. But I do think the combination of *widespread* sniping plus the competitive "fury" of bidding has sent many e Bay sale prices out of control. If someone puts a really nice coin with a really good picture up for bidding, chances are very good that the final sale price will be considerably higher than if you bought the same coin from a reputable dealer.

As such, it rarely pays to watch eBay any more.

As a seller, it's great. As a buyer, nurturing a business relationship with some dealers, especially those specializing in your own interest, seems better AND cheaper than playing the eBay sweepstakes -- at least when you're looking at coins that are very nice and with clear images. eBay is still fine for gamblers (who don't see a really good picture but have a "hunch"), for finding miscategorized items that few people see and for cherrypicking in some coin series, but by and large, as often as not you can do just as well off a fixed price list with a reputable dealer for the good stuff.

Smitty79

If you can't beat 'em....join 'em, I always say.

MikeInFL

I just wanted to use this icon.

TAClough

<< <i>How out of control is ebay sniping? >>



It is alive and well, thank you very much!

Tim

boston

Feels good to snipe a sniper with only 1 second left.

Software is unsporting though!

Burks

Must be doing pretty good, lost 6 auctions in two days.

mozeppa

it never was "in control"

1921obsession

I've been buying on Ebay since 1999, and I don't believe I've ever bid with more than 6 seconds left in the auction. It's absolute foolishness to put your maximum price up there, days early, for some numbnuts to F5 his bid until he's above you. We all know that Ebay is 70% bleating sheep, 20% hardened criminals and 10% predators. Me, I'm an honest man with a carnivorous streak.

Rusty4768

sniping...the new trend

66Tbird

Firefox had a usable sniper extension before ver. 1.5 came around. Wish the author would update it.

BASEagle

<< <i> I bid a coin up from $20 to $200 with a max bid of $405 on a coin that some wins on a snipe of $406 that just sucks >>





Not trying to be a wiseacre here, but I don't understand what your complaint is. You got outbid, so you lost. You have no complaint. What am I missing?

Mike