My first PCGS crossover attempt (all darkside stuff)

crito

1873-YJ Peru Sol PCI VF-30 -- Min Cross VF-20 (mintage ~3000 pieces, near shattered die, clash marks, major lamination)
1914-FG Peru Sol PCI MS-62 -- Min Cross AU-58 (monster toned)
1915-FG Peru Sol PCI MS62 -- Min Cross AU-58 (sister coin to one above, came out of same album, but not as "monster")
1934 Peru Sol ANACS MS64 -- Min Cross MS-63 (looks MS-65 to me, but didn't want a DNC)
1819 Ionian Islands 2 Lepta ANACS MS-62 -- Min Cross MS-60 (surfaces are semi-PL, coin is rattling in holder)

First three have been in my collection since 1976 (I kid you not) and toners look exactly the same as when removed from the very unusual Peruvian album they were in. I'm hoping the age of the PCI slab will help prove to the graders that the color is "stable" and won't "turn" in their slab.

Will post result whatever decade, er, month they show up. Sending them "world economy" so I don't expect they'll be back anytime soon.

MSD61

Best of luck to you!

ajaan

I hope they don't charge you more because you put the value of the Ionian coin at $400. Isn't the max for economy $300?

crito

Hmm, good catch, I'll have to lower that to $300 then. Though if it actually gets lost I only have a reciept for $150 or so anyway. Was Syracusian who threw out the $400 number a while back when discussing values on the www.greekcoins.gr website, so that's what I put down. Thanks!

1jester

Outstanding coins. Good luck on the submission.

MadMarty

I would have cracked them out.

crito

If either of the ANACS coins come back lower I probably will crack them out and resubmit raw.

crito

Grades are in:

LINE # CERT # COIN DATE DENOMINATION VARIETY COUNTRY GRADE
1 08110637 1873-YJ Sol PERU DNC
2 08110638 1914-FG Sol PERU MS62
3 08110639 1915-FG Sol PERU MS62
4 08110640 1934 Sol PERU MS64
5 08110641 1819 2 Lep GRE-I.I. MS62BN

I'm so happy my toned soles crossed at MS62 I can forgive the DNC. For the record however, though graded VF30 the coin is a weakly struck MS coin. What appears to be wear is actually PVC damage from the flip it was sitting in for several decades. I removed all the contamination before submitting to PCI and it hasn't turned in the slab, but the "wear" on the high points is a little darker than the rest of the coin and looks somewhat unnatural. I don't know what to do with this one. I've been searching for YEARS to find a replacement. They just never come up for sale. Anyway, I can't blame PCGS on that one.

All the others crossing at the SAME GRADE is FANTASTIC. I'm already preparing my next submission. This time a batch of raw Peruvian Soles (and one Ionian Islands Lepton.)

netrubicon

Thats great. I just picked up a un sol last month. I really like it.

crito

Will post pics of the MS64 in it's new fancy shmancy PCGS slab when it get here. Still think that one had a shot at MS65. Very gemmy looking anyway. Must have been a near miss.

I'll probably try and reshoot the Ionian copper too now that I can change the background color. Just a few carbon spots keeping this coin from a higher grade IMHO, but chocolate color is so appealing and surfaces are so proof-like I'm glad no one tried to remove them (chemically or manually -- like with a chewed wooden toothpick dipped in ezest or plucked off with a rose thorn, that is). Definitely nicer than a low end MS63 eye-appeal-wise.

SYRACUSIAN

This has got to be the luckiest crossover ever. Congrats on the Ionian, a very tough coin like this as you know.



edited: fully deserved too, that second sol is a killer one too.

JZrarities

Fantastic results and well done. Realistic expectations and you gave PCGS a little downside to manage the risk.

Overall I would be completely happy and LOVE them in PCGS holders.

1960NYGiants

Excellent results. Especially 2 of 3 PCI coins.

crito

Coins just got here. To my surprise PCGS rejected the one Sol due to "planchet flaws". I didn't realize a lamination was grounds for rejection at PCGS. Now I know.

Also, the Ionian coin was slabbed Britannia side forward. Unlike my PCGS 2 Obol which is slabbed date/lion side forward. So I've got to get one or the other reholdered, eventually.

Pictures to follow soon...

SYRACUSIAN

Also, the Ionian coin was slabbed Britannia side forward. Unlike my PCGS 2 Obol which is slabbed date/lion side forward. So I've got to get one or the other reholdered, eventually.



Don't bother, you never know which side you'll find forward in your next purchase or submission. The mistake on the copper is excusable, but putting the reverse with a big 30 as obverse and Britannia reverse on the silver?

IlikeZARcoins

Showing my lack of knowledge: What does DNC stand for ?

coinpictures

"Did Not Cross", meaning that the TPG (third party grader) submitted to would not certify the coin at or above the minimum grade specificed by the submittor.

crito

sorry for delay, best I can do for now. not happy with these pics. will redo later (after my taxes, due in two weeks...)




Yeah, for soles I'm used to seeing reverses slabbed forward. seated liberty is prettier than a shield I guess. ANACS always did it backwards (obverse forward, which I guess isn't really backwards, anyway) which is nice for varieties since most diagnostics are on date/shield side. For Ionian Islands coin was a surprise though.

trbyrne

I'm glad someone like the Peruvian coins as much as I do. I'll admit though that I do have a connection - My wife is Peruvian and every time we go to Lima to visit her family, we go to Miraflores and hit the coin shops.

Clankeye

Man, those are pretty. Nice coins, Crito and congratulations.


Clankeye

WWW

Those Peruvian coins are beautiful. Yet another series to look for now that I'm hooked on the Darkside.

bosox

Very nice coin.

crito

<< <i>IMy wife is Peruvian and every time we go to Lima to visit her family, we go to Miraflores and hit the coin shops. >>



I lived in Miraflores from 75-76 and that's where/when the toned ms62 were acquired. Blast white MS64 was a recent ebay putchase. Last time I visited, in late 80's, was surprised to find my first dojo, Circulo de Karate, was still there too... anyway

laceupboots

Bautiful coins.