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Which Career Has Been The Biggest Disappointment?

frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
I will nominate a couple.

Bo Jackson

Grant Hill

Both had enormouse potential. If injuries had not got to them, they would both be on their way to the Hall of Fame. Bo Jackson would possibly be in the baseball AND football Hall of Fame.

Shane

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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    I wouldn't say disappointment, because they both unfortunately had injuries.

    Disappointment? Players like Dwight Gooden, whose faults were his own doing, unlimited potential, and the world at his feet would be the bigger disappointment.
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree.

    We could still lump them all together though. Strawberry and Gooden are definitely good examples. None of these lived up to their potential. The latter due to their own doings. Jackson and Hill due to injury.

    Shane

  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Ken Griffey Jr's has been for the past few years.
    He hung on and did well last year until ending up hurt again near the end of the season.

    It's too bad....I've always liked JR. If there was one person that I would have liked to see break Aaron's record, it would have been JR.
  • Here's some:

    Ralph Sampson, Eric Lindros (however the trade for him started an era of winning for the Nordiques/Avalanche), Ricky Williams, Todd Marinovich, and an oldy but goody -- Mark "the Bird" Fydrich!!
  • I'm surprised no one mentioned Ryan Leaf or Brien Taylor. Brien Taylor in my mind has been the biggest disappointment in the last 20 years--he had the arm, had the potential, had the contract with the Yanks...and blew it all on a bar room fight.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • dallasactuarydallasactuary Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rick Ankiel
    This is for you @thisistheshow - Jim Rice was actually a pretty good player.
  • Tony Mandrich
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,004 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jerome McDougle, Freddie Mitchell, Jon Harris, Mike Mamula, Leonard Renfro, Ben Smith, Kevin Allen, Kenny Jackson, and more.


































    Yep...you guessed it right...all Eagle's first round draft picks.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    How about Brian Bosworth?
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    Ken Griffey Jr and Frank Thomas. Thomas is one of those rare players who can hit for average and power. He would be over 500 homers
    by now if he stayed healthy. Grif has not only been hurt but has displayed a poor additude.

    Kevin
  • Gregg Jefferies!

    Bob the hammer Hamlin!


    Those popped in my head right away, ill come up with more!
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Ken Griffey Jr and Frank Thomas. Thomas is one of those rare players who can hit for average and power. He would be over 500 homers
    by now if he stayed healthy. Grif has not only been hurt but has displayed a poor additude.

    Kevin >>



    Are you drunk again Stalin?

    Griffey's hit over 500 HRs, 10 time gold glove, best player of the 90s, a decade run as being the best player in the game, and you call THAT disappointing?

    Wow...lay off the sauce before posting.

    And where does this 'poor attitude' come from? Or do you always believe what you read in the National Enquirer?
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    Axtell

    Griff's been disappointing since he left Seattle up until last season. Let's hope that he can continue to do well this year.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>Axtell

    Griff's been disappointing since he left Seattle up until last season. Let's hope that he can continue to do well this year. >>



    Well his first year in Cincinatti he did hit 40 HRs and played the whole season, and played nearly all of last year, too. I would agree it's been disappointing, but to call his career the biggest disappointment is illogical.

  • Besides Gooden, Darryl Strawberry. Those two really screwed up. Who knows what could have been.
  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    Even among the self-destructive types, the injury riddled and the outright busts, I gotta go with Griffey. I realize he was the game's dominant player for much of the '90s and that he's going to retire with Hall of Fame credentials, but it's almost impossible to not ask "What coud've been?" when looking back on his career. I suppose giving him the nod has more to do with our expectations than his actual output, but Junior was Willie Mays with a Q Score. The (presumably) unjuiced heir to the Aaron record. The possible Best There Ever Was.
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  • kcballboykcballboy Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Gregg Jefferies!

    Bob the hammer Hamlin!


    Those popped in my head right away, ill come up with more! >>



    Love the Hamelin reference. I always hoped he would rebound so KC could trade him away. Some others that come to mind Travis Lee, Ruben Rivera, JD Drew.
    Travis
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Has to be Strawberry.


    Steve
    Good for you.


  • << <i>Gregg Jefferies!

    Bob the hammer Hamlin!


    Those popped in my head right away, ill come up with more! >>



    Jefferies, as much of a disappointment as he was (he was the next great thing in cardboard during those bad bad late 80's), did last long enough in MLB to get consideration for the HOF (2 votes I believe from obviously drunk or ignorant writers).

    Hamelin is a great example! Anyone remember the rush on his starting lineup figure?


    Speaking of Jefferies, how about Jerome Walton? In 1989 he was suddenly the complete package for the Cubs--his traded rookies were the rage in collecting. I don't think he lasted three years in baseball...
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • Kevin Sietzer also peetered out, was an average player that was spose to be the next .400 hitter.
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  • bri2327bri2327 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭
    Ok......here is a new one....Barry Bonds.....this guy was a one of the greatest players ever BEFORE the steroid scandal hit. Just think what could have been if he just aged naturally.....instead he will always be remembered for the negative, and most of the great career he had before steroids will be forgotten, or at least tainted.

    To me it is a huge dissapointment to have been blessed with so much ability, to excel using that ability for so long, and ultimately allow greed to take over in trying to become superhuman.
    "The other teams could make trouble for us if they win."
    -- Yogi Berra

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    We want real bombs, like that #2 NBA pick Darkko whatshisname.
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Tony Manderich, biggest bust in football? What an embarresment for all us MSUr's.


    Stingray
  • dirtmonkeydirtmonkey Posts: 3,048 ✭✭


    << <i>Tony Manderich, biggest bust in football? What an embarresment for all us MSUr's.


    Stingray >>




    Be glad that the Pack took him instead of Barry... Funny stuff. I have met Tony a couple of times when my brother used to manage a Sams Club in Traverse City. Pretty nice guy, even for an MSU grad image
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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    Matt Anderson blew out his arm after an awesome begining.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • Im reachinghere cause many probly dont know the name, but Ryan Anderson (Seattle) 6/10 was the next Randy Johnson...

    He hasnt seen the majors as far as I know, its been 10 years.
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  • << <i>Im reachinghere cause many probly dont know the name, but Ryan Anderson (Seattle) 6/10 was the next Randy Johnson...

    He hasnt seen the majors as far as I know, its been 10 years. >>



    You're not reaching--Ryan Anderson was going to be huge in a lot of people's minds. I think his rookies were either 97 or 98. I remember his rookies being the big card of whatever year he came out in Bowman Chrome. Last I heard he was still in the minors with Boston or San Diego I think.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • Grant Hill....Duke BB star...got plagued with injuries in the NBA
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    The wording of this question leaves it open to different interpretations...

    I would say that the most disappointing career now belongs to Rafael Palmeiro. Granted, the guy has hit 500 homers and has played very well consistently, but now a cloud of the darkest shade hangs over everything he has ever done. The man blatently lied to a grand jury. He lied to the public repeatedly, instead trying to play us as fools. He was ousted from Baltimore in a demeaning way. His career has spiraled downward so quickly that he will essentially be forced into retirement because no team is dumb enough to bring him on and have to endure that P.R. nightmare.

    Bill Buckner could also make this list. His entire career is defined by a single error. Everything else he ever did has virtually no meaning or significance even though he was an above average player for most of his career. I'd say that's a disappointing career when all is said and done, to be remembered as a chump.



  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Bill Buckner could also make this list. His entire career is defined by a single error. Everything else he ever did has virtually no meaning or significance even though he was an above average player for most of his career. I'd say that's a disappointing career when all is said and done, to be remembered as a chump. >>



    Easily the most ridiculous thing I've seen posted in quite some time here.

    Buckner a chump? Please. If you knew anything about baseball, you'd know (a) that error wasn't his fault (he shouldn't have been out there anyways), and (b) they still had another game to play after.

  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    He lost it in the sun, right?

    Ax, I tend to agree with you more often than not, but that play will forever define Bill Buckner. He should just be glad he extended the curse for only 18 more years.
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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He lost it in the sun, right?

    Ax, I tend to agree with you more often than not, but that play will forever define Bill Buckner. He should just be glad he extended the curse for only 18 more years. >>



    ONLY!! I think you just spun his career around!!...It could have been longer!
  • The 3 QB's from the 99 Draft that were top 10 picks. Couch, Mcnown, Smith. All were groomed as the next big thing.

    That gets me to thinking, does anybody else think teams put alot of stock on what Mel Kiper say.


    Ed
  • Didn't Kiper also highly tout Rick Mirer over Drew Bledsoe in the 93 draft?
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>He lost it in the sun, right?

    Ax, I tend to agree with you more often than not, but that play will forever define Bill Buckner. He should just be glad he extended the curse for only 18 more years. >>



    I didn't say he lost it in the sun, but to say his career has been the biggest disappointment because of an error is a big overstatement. Like I said, the red sox did go out and lay an egg in game 7, too.
  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    This is more of an intrepetation question than anything...

    You are right... to say Buckner's career has been the biggest disappointment over an error may be overstating it, but really not by much.

    It is easy to look at guys who were highly touted that never panned out and say they had disappointing careers, but really, they didn't have much a career to consider them the most disappointing.

    I read this question as: Which player who has actually had a legitimate career (not a flash-in-the-pan), has had the most disappointing career from a fans' point of view. Hence my initial response of Palmeiro, who is now often seen as a disgrace to the game. To have an entire decent career turn to crap in a matter of an instant would definitely qualify any player in that boat for the title of biggest disappointment. That's why Buckner is there too... his entire career was turned into crap in 2 seconds flat.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Buckner a chump? Please. >>



    yes, as Josh said, Buckner is remembered as a chump, regardless of him being a good player..



    << <i>If you knew anything about baseball, you'd know (a) that error wasn't his fault >>



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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Tony Manderich, biggest bust in football? What an embarresment for all us MSUr's.


    Stingray >>



    i still remember the SI issue showing him grocery shopping with like 3 shopping carts full of food.. seems like i saw a picture a few years later and he was off the roids and alot smaller looking..
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  • yawie99yawie99 Posts: 2,575 ✭✭✭
    The Spartan's right: It's a question of how one interprets disappointment. Some people seem to go for the phenoms that absolutely phlop; some give the nod to those who only tantalized us with flashes of greatness; while others - like myself - consider the disappointments to be those who left us wanting and waiting for so much more. There's no right or wrong answer.

    That said, if we were playing Sports Talk Family Feud and one of the bonus round questions was "Name one of Bill Buckner's career accomplishments." "Blowing the '86 World Series" would be at least a 94-point answer. Does that make him a disappointment? I dunno. But, justified or not, he'll forever be one of baseball's legendary goats.
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  • Talking about Buckner, he will forever be remembered for the ball going between his legs. Hias stats were pretty good though--2715 hits in 2517 games. 498 doubles, 1208 RBIs. lefetime .289 hitter. And the stat that sticks out to me: 453 career strikeouts in 22 seasons. Not too many players averaged less strikeouts per season than Buckner.
    Next MONTH? So he's saying that if he wins, the best-case scenario is that he'll be paying for it two weeks after the auction ends?

    Forget blocking him; find out where he lives and go punch him in the nuts. --WalterSobchak 9/12/12



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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Buckner a chump? Please. >>



    yes, as Josh said, Buckner is remembered as a chump, regardless of him being a good player..



    << <i>If you knew anything about baseball, you'd know (a) that error wasn't his fault >>



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    pandrews as usual you have been smoking weed before posting...his knees were shot, and he shouldn't have been playing the field.

    There's a great show on this in the '5 reasons you can't blame...' series on ESPN. I suggest you give it a watch, and learn a thing or 2, other than the highlight reel being your only source of sports history.

  • A761506A761506 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭
    Just a side-note...

    Buckner played 138 games (for a total of 1067 innings) during the 1986 season at 1st base. He played 15 games at DH. Trying to convince others that he should not have been out there because of bad knees is a weak argument.



  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>pandrews as usual you have been smoking weed before posting...his knees were shot, and he shouldn't have been playing the field. >>



    correct, most of the stupid chit you post is much funnier after some good bud..

    and you saying it wasn't his fault, is absolutely hilarious..


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  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>pandrews as usual you have been smoking weed before posting...his knees were shot, and he shouldn't have been playing the field. >>



    correct, most of the stupid chit you post is much funnier after some good bud..

    and you saying it wasn't his fault, is absolutely hilarious.. >>



    Dunno Ax, PA has a point. Blaming John Mcnamara sounds like something the Democratic party would do???

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  • Has to be Jose Canseco



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  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I'd put Canseco on that list too. I don't think you can call someone like Bo Jackson a disappointment- more a tragedy, sports wise. A disappointment is someone who thru his own doing trashed his career.
    Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Jose Canseco (although a lot of that was the stupid move of pitching an inning and blowing out his shoulder), Steve Howe. Keith Hernandez almost, but seems to have recovered before it was too late.
    Add Ken Caminetti in there as well, and Len Bias in basketball.

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  • I agree w/ you about Bo Jackson...although i was always a Canseco fan, there was always that "what if?"
  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I DISAGREE about Bo Jackson. To the fan that had expectations, his career was a disappointment. Because there is always the "what if?".

    Shane



  • << <i>Ken Griffey Jr's has been for the past few years.
    He hung on and did well last year until ending up hurt again near the end of the season.

    It's too bad....I've always liked JR. If there was one person that I would have liked to see break Aaron's record, it would have been JR. >>



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