One diamond is soft but the cheek is full and the feathertips are nearly all there. The reverse has minor problems but not enough to 64 it. I love your obverse image, great detail and natural brown color. Kudos.
MS65BN. Whoever loaned you these coins has a sweet set.
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NGC 65 BN. It's about the same or slighly nicer than the 1907 posted the other day that was graded NGC 65 BN. My grade is AU 58 on this one due to wear on the high points of the wreath.
Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.
I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation.
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Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.
I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation. >>
That begs the question: Are we supposed to "guess" the actual technical grade we think it merits, or the market grade many of these "AU-62"ish coins actually get with the MS designation?
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The fine line between AU and MS64/65 always amazes me when it comes to some Indian Cents. This post is a great example.
The softness of strike of the 3rd diamond and lower hair curl sways so many into grading IH's AU. I don't understand this. Light circulation markers should exist in many other areas besides the extreme high points on a truly slightly circulated coin. If the cheek, feathertips and shield are pristine and untouched by wear how can an IH be AU?
We understand the difference in strike weakness vs. wear in Flying Eagles due to their history of weak strikes. We tend to ignore it when it comes to IH's.
OOPS! Forgot about this one. No surprise that the grades are all over the map. It's one that's impossible to grade from an image, and damned tough to grade in hand. It's graded MS62BN, the limiting factor being some wispy hairlines on the obverse.
Wispy hairlines? Welcome to the land of posting beautiful images on the forum that don't always reveal their character. I didn't see any posts here about hairlines. But I'd be the first to admit a lot can be hidden in a nice image and it's hard to resist posting it.
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One diamond is soft but the cheek is full and the feathertips are nearly all there. The reverse has minor problems but not enough to 64 it. I love your obverse image, great detail and natural brown color. Kudos.
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I'll guess the grade MS 64 BN.
I wouln't touch this one with a 10 foot ferengi pole...Mike
Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.
I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation.
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Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.
I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation. >>
That begs the question: Are we supposed to "guess" the actual technical grade we think it merits, or the market grade many of these "AU-62"ish coins actually get with the MS designation?
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OK, too low, maybe. I'll join the AU55 crowd.
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The softness of strike of the 3rd diamond and lower hair curl sways so many into grading IH's AU. I don't understand this. Light circulation markers should exist in many other areas besides the extreme high points on a truly slightly circulated coin. If the cheek, feathertips and shield are pristine and untouched by wear how can an IH be AU?
We understand the difference in strike weakness vs. wear in Flying Eagles due to their history of weak strikes. We tend to ignore it when it comes to IH's.
This coin is AU58 -- no matter what the slab grade says it is
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