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1879 Indian Head Cent - Guess the grade.

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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I've decided I really like IHCs. image

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NGC holder.

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  • SDCollectorSDCollector Posts: 886 ✭✭
    SWAG since I know nothing about IHC's. AU-55 BN.
    Bill
  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Slight wear on the high points.

    AU-58

    Tom
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    MS65BN.

    One diamond is soft but the cheek is full and the feathertips are nearly all there. The reverse has minor problems but not enough to 64 it. I love your obverse image, great detail and natural brown color. Kudos.
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64BN
    When in doubt, don't.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    No wear - MS-65 brown - very nice.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,715 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS65BN. Whoever loaned you these coins has a sweet set.


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  • RWRW Posts: 485 ✭
    65BN
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    64BN
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin. AU-55, maybe.
  • ecosecos Posts: 391 ✭
    Heck with those Bright Red Cents, that is a dandy looking coin!

    Russ, if you had to cheat on Kennedy, the IHC is a fine choice of a mistress! image
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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,630 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NGC 65 BN. It's about the same or slighly nicer than the 1907 posted the other day that was graded NGC 65 BN. My grade is AU 58 on this one due to wear on the high points of the wreath.
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    This is an AU coin hiding in MS slab, methinks.

    I'll guess the grade MS 64 BN.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably graded as MS64 brown though it is actually a nice AU58 Brown.
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  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58 club for me
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-63, Brown.

    Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.

    I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation.
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  • AtlanticAtlantic Posts: 573 ✭
    64 here
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Compare it to this one: Heritage link
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Not sure if it is the style but I would say a Double Die Obverse MS64 Brown. image
  • OnlyBuffalosOnlyBuffalos Posts: 817
    64 BN
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    64bn
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  • CollectingsFunCollectingsFun Posts: 153
    AU-53
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64BN
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64bn
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>MS-63, Brown.

    Sorry guys, but you will never buy one like that in an AU-58 holder.

    I agree that there is probably a rub on the hair below the ribbon, but that won't keep it from getting an MS designation. >>

    That begs the question: Are we supposed to "guess" the actual technical grade we think it merits, or the market grade many of these "AU-62"ish coins actually get with the MS designation?
  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,719 ✭✭✭✭
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  • brccoinsbrccoins Posts: 302 ✭
    63BN
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  • au58au58 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭
    63bn
  • mojoriznmojorizn Posts: 1,380 ✭
    AU55 Great look.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,438 ✭✭✭✭✭
    64Br
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  • ajiaajia Posts: 5,403 ✭✭✭
    AU58......Can't see the rub, but can see the dirt.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,673 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU53

    OK, too low, maybe. I'll join the AU55 crowd.

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  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    64BN
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  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    I say it is AU55 on the pics, but could be ms61 bn with a mushy strike on the obverse.
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  • 1907Quarter1907Quarter Posts: 2,770
    boy, the grades are all over the place, or they're playing with your mind Russ!image
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146 ✭
    That coin would be a very strong 4 but oh-so close to a 5......imo...
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A coin like this I'd sell as an AU58 but it would cost you MS64BN money.
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  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433 ✭
    63 bn
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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    The fine line between AU and MS64/65 always amazes me when it comes to some Indian Cents. This post is a great example.

    The softness of strike of the 3rd diamond and lower hair curl sways so many into grading IH's AU. I don't understand this. Light circulation markers should exist in many other areas besides the extreme high points on a truly slightly circulated coin. If the cheek, feathertips and shield are pristine and untouched by wear how can an IH be AU?

    We understand the difference in strike weakness vs. wear in Flying Eagles due to their history of weak strikes. We tend to ignore it when it comes to IH's.
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  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭

    This coin is AU58 -- no matter what the slab grade says it is image

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63 brown tops

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    OOPS! Forgot about this one. No surprise that the grades are all over the map. It's one that's impossible to grade from an image, and damned tough to grade in hand. It's graded MS62BN, the limiting factor being some wispy hairlines on the obverse.

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  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Wispy hairlines? Welcome to the land of posting beautiful images on the forum that don't always reveal their character. I didn't see any posts here about hairlines. But I'd be the first to admit a lot can be hidden in a nice image and it's hard to resist posting it.

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