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iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366
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They outplayed the Falcons today - plain and simple. I think there's a decent chance the NFC South will have 3 playoff teams with Carolina winning the division.

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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    They're still abit Shaky on the road, especially Jake.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    They totally man handled us at our place, but of course our O line sucks. Time for some payback buc style this week

    Kevin
  • vintagechrisvintagechris Posts: 468 ✭✭
    The Panthers have found their running game and the defense was dominant against a better offense than the Bucs have. I don't think there will be any pay back by the Bucs this week.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They outplayed the Falcons today - plain and simple. I think there's a decent chance the NFC South will have 3 playoff teams with Carolina winning the division. >>

    image Sorry I think the division is weak, the Bears manhandled them.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>HMMMMM; Sorry I think the division is weak, the Bears manhandled them. >>



    The division is weak?

    Carolina is 9-3, Bucs 8-4, Atlanta 7-5...and the Bucs didn't manhandle the Bucs...it was a close game. The Bears offense scares nobody, and has been noted, Orton is getting worse and worse. They'll make the playoffs, but be a round one exit.

  • vintagechrisvintagechris Posts: 468 ✭✭
    That divison is far from weak IMO. I would say the Bears divison is much weaker. If not for the Vikes coming on lately it would be an awful divison.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    What about the NFC west? Outside of Seattle, they all *stink*.
  • iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366


    << <i>

    << <i>They outplayed the Falcons today - plain and simple. I think there's a decent chance the NFC South will have 3 playoff teams with Carolina winning the division. >>

    image Sorry I think the division is weak, the Bears manhandled them. >>



    I didn't know the Bears were a division. The Bears are good, but the rest of their division sucks. I'd say they're almost a lock for the NFC North, the Seahawks have locked the West, and Carolina with wins over Atlanta and Tampa Bay seems to have sealed the South.

    I think at least one WC from the NFC South is almost a guarantee, and of the three 7-5 teams, Atlanta is better than Dallas and Minnesota.
  • RANDYMOSS84RANDYMOSS84 Posts: 1,980


    << <i> but be a round one exit. >>



    they should get a first round buy at this rate..
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    No doubt the Bears suck on offense, but they still manhandled Carolina, you made my point. Let's see Tampa Bay beat the Packers, the worst team in the Norris badly 17-16, LOL and Atlanta beat them oops I mean lost to them 33-25, and Carolina clobbered them 32-29 and they beat N.O. 52-3 or something like that. So they lost twice to the South by a combined 4 points and won twice by a combinded 57 points.

    Yeah you guys are right the South Division is really good. image
  • stevekstevek Posts: 29,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Carolina has to be a strong favorite right now to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. Don't forget they were in the Super Bowl only two seasons ago. But for sure, they're not a lock to get in.
  • AkbarCloneAkbarClone Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭
    The Bears did not "manhandle" the Panthers. Carolina beat themselves with the costly turnovers deep in their own territory.

    The Bears only TD was after they got the ball less than 10 yards from the endzone (8 yard drive for the score).
    Then their first FG was when they started that drive about 30 yards from the endzone (only gained 3 yards, then kicked the FG)


    The total yards gained for each offense was only about 25-30 yards different.
    Each team was forced to punt 7 times.
    Each defense played great.

    The difference was turnovers--3 for Carolina, only 1 for Chicago--and Chicago got lucky that the turnovers they recovered were close enough to the endzone to make it an easy score.

    13-3 is not a "manhandle" when you are on your home field and recover 3 turnovers.

    The Bears defense is great, but so is Carolina's. If a rematch was played on Carolina's home field, the outcome could easily be reversed.
    I hope they play meet again in the playoffs.

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  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Actually I agree with you to a point AkbarClone (what is an AkbarClone BTW?). Every sportscaster used the word manhandled and even though the Bears outplayed them, manhandled was an exaggeration. As far as turnovers I would point out that is usually the deciding factor in an NFL game, not total yardage. Seattle got what 190 yards last night?

    My point is that the Bears are not that good but they still beat Carolina and I was reacting to the title of the thread. If Chicago isn't that good then how can Carolina be considered good? At this point wouldn't be surprised if the Vikings over took them, they go into Pixberg a 5.5 underdog. A team that has lost what 3 in a row?
  • vintagechrisvintagechris Posts: 468 ✭✭
    Since we are throwing out scores of how the South has struggled with some teams lets throw out these scores: Bears lost to Cleveland 20-10, Bears beat Ravens 10-6, Bears beat the pathetic Lions in OT, Beat the Saints by a FG, and they were only up by 6 when Favre thre a INT for a TD. This is the NFL. You can look at any schedule and see where teams struggle against bad teams on a given week. The Bears are playing great D but that offense is bad and it will catch up with you at some point. I don't know if you actually watched the Panthers against the Falcons Mike but I saw a very good football team and I watched the entire game. They ran the ball well which has been the knock on them so far this year and I might add against a good defense. Panthers defense was dominant also. The Bears and Panthers defenses are comparable but the Panthers have a much better ability to score. I truely believe the Panthers win if they meet again but we may never know. Should be an interesting last month.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    We don't get panther games up here, I can only go by what I saw when they played the Bears. The Carolina game happened to be fairly recent and in all honesty it was the easiest win they had all season. All I am saying is that I don't think their division is as strong as some on here would like to believe. Fair?
  • vintagechrisvintagechris Posts: 468 ✭✭
    Definately fair Mike. I agree actually. It is not a monster divison. But there aren't any monsters other than the AFC West. The Panthers are a really good team. The Falcons are better than average and the Bucs are average to slightly better than average and the Saints are really bad. I don't think the Bucs are that good myself but they are not bad either. I do have to disagree with Akbar. The Bears did dominate the Panthers. Their defense was dominant but the Panthers only ran the ball something like 18 times. I think that will change in a rematch now that Foster is running the ball well. The Panthers team that played the Falcons on Sunday was a different team from the one that played the Bears.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    The Bears are winning with defense, and they have NO offense whatsoever.

    They will run into a good offense in the playoffs, and they will be exposed. You can only win on defense for so long...you can't expect to win by holding everyone to 10 points.

    I'd say the NFC south is a a strong division, but Atlanta seems to be faltering down the stretch here, and seem unlikely to make the playoffs...they have some tough games coming up.

  • iamthegreatcornholioiamthegreatcornholio Posts: 3,366


    << <i>No doubt the Bears suck on offense, but they still manhandled Carolina, you made my point. Let's see Tampa Bay beat the Packers, the worst team in the Norris badly 17-16, LOL and Atlanta beat them oops I mean lost to them 33-25, and Carolina clobbered them 32-29 and they beat N.O. 52-3 or something like that. So they lost twice to the South by a combined 4 points and won twice by a combinded 57 points. >>



    Okay GB is 2-2 against the NFC South, and the Bears are good going 3-0 against the South. Well champ, you forgot that the Lions and Vikings also belong to that cesspool and together sport a 1-6 record against the NFC South... so overall the NFC North is 6-8 against the NFC South. And the NFC North is 4 games BELOW .500 as a whole, while the NFC South is 6 games ABOVE .500



    << <i>Yeah you guys are right the South Division is really good. >>



    At least you got this part right image



    << <i>I'd say the NFC south is a a strong division, but Atlanta seems to be faltering down the stretch here, and seem unlikely to make the playoffs...they have some tough games coming up. >>



    9-7 might not be good enough with TB, Dallas, Minnesota and even Washington in the hunt too. Still, 10-6 should get the Falcons into the playoffs. I'm hoping Carolina might have the division sealed next Sunday so come week 17, they may not play hard. The Falcons going 3-1 during this last stretch, especially if Carolina's fate won't matter on 01/01, is still quite doable.
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