How does CSA grading compare to PSA

littball

How would a CSA graded 10 card compare to a PSA graded 10? Would it crossover to a 9? Thanks for your opinion.

A761506

I'm not sure if it's CSA or KSA that is the legitimate Canadian grading company, however, I believe it is KSA. CSA is likely a bogus basement operation and there's a high possibility the card is altered/trimmed and won't cross, especially since it's graded as a supposed 10. Post a pic and we'll be able to give you a better opinion.

julen23

The following is only a test, in the event of a real emergency.....

"PSA/DNA are the experts, not us. We should take their word on such matters and realize a psa 10 will always overshadow a 10 of any competing company. They do this for a living and we should not question their professional opinion and realize a psa 10 is the uber-card every other grading company dreams of becoming..."

muhahahah

Julen

smallstocks

Julen,

You dabighurt in disguise?

DaBigHurt

Actually, I would avoid other grading companies altogether. If you want a PSA 10, why take a chance with cards from other grading companies who will leave you with trimmed and altered cards when you can just get the card you want from PSA?

Why rummage around a dumpster and eat garbage when you can have fine dining in a top quality restaurant like the Olive Garden??

Fletch1750

I have said time and time again CSA is just ahead of GAI

Stone193

CSA is a "franchise" off-shoot of ASA - of Hager fame.

Back in the early 90s, Hager was selling franchises of his company - offering the rights to the arrow-head
holder use and provided sonic equipment and training.



So the company had a "legitimate" start of sorts and now? Probably about as good as Gem and Pro?

If there are people here who have never heard of Alan Hager...they're missing out on a real treat!

mike

Bosox1976

My thoughts are this:

CSA seems to have had three distinct periods:

1. The Old Days - Red & White flip (very similar to PSA's) - Good grading/authentication - overgraded by about 1 point relative to PSA (i.e. CSA 8 = PSA 7)

2. The Middle Period - Oversized blue holders with set/year stamped on holder - OK grading/authentication - overgraded by about 2 points relative to PSA (i.e. CSA 8 = PSA 6)

3. The Modern Period - Clear holders with subgrades - Laughable grading/authentication - basically PRO style rules on trimming and authenticity. Who cares about the grades when it is likely trimmed?

Hope it helps.

bsfastball

I've crossed a few older CSA cards (ones with flips that look like PSA's) with no problem at all. I would expect to get knocked down a grade or two, but I havent had any come back trimmed or grossly overgraded. That said, I've only done that with three cards.

ledsters

There is an old 1979 Topps Ozzie Smith RC in a PSA 9 holder right now that I crossed over 5 years ago from a CSA 9 holder. I sold the card over 4 years ago. Mentioned only because many have said that CSA 9 don't cross equally.

Ledsters

jaxxr

I've sent cards to CSA some 5-6 years ago, overall they seemed close to, perhaps a bit "easier" than PSA, maybe a half to a full point higher.
However I had two cards come back as not graded; evid. of alteration/trim, a 71 Catfish Hunter and a 82 Fleer ripken RC, both obtained raw from ebay sellers, though the Ripken was part of a complete set so unlikely to be trimmed, but shows not all non-major graders are charlatans.

I knew they moved to NY, but thought they closed up shop. Anyone have a link to their current website ??

onlychild

All my old CSA cards were cracked out and sent to PSA (maybe 7 or so) all but one came back a grade higher. I was pleasantly shocked, some were $300+ cards.

1960toppsguy

Olive Garden . . . Fine Restaurant . . . Somebodys Lost

Stone193

<< <i>Olive Garden . . . Fine Restaurant . . . Somebodys Lost >>


I gotta say...I've had worse.

mike

gregmadduxfan

I thought CSA was one of the first grading companies out there. I remember way back in the day when it was them, PSA, and SGC. I want to say this was around 1996 or so........

MajorDanby

do a search on CSA...this topic has been brought up ad nauseum

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Stingray

I know that they are located here in Michigan.

CSA Site

Old website, I believe, states that they are in NY.

Stingray

MajorDanby

<< <i> have said time and time again CSA is just ahead of GAI >>



oh oh....i think a little PSA loyalty blinded you when you wrote this. CSA isnt horrible and i would buy their cards over PRO,GEM, KSA et al in a heartbeat...but i wouldnt compare them to GAI. Maybe if you said SCD instead...

Seraph

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<< <i> have said time and time again CSA is just ahead of GAI >>



oh oh....i think a little PSA loyalty blinded you when you wrote this. CSA isnt horrible and i would buy their cards over PRO,GEM, KSA et al in a heartbeat...but i wouldnt compare them to GAI. Maybe if you said SCD instead... >>



SCD with the red circle is legitimate. SCD with the blue circle is questionable.

jaxxr

So... are they still in Biz ???

The prior link is from April 2002, states they are near Columbus OH. and use a NY PO BOX for shipping .

EdwardTeach

CSA 9

Stingray

That is the only link I could find, I was wrong it is Gem Grading Services which is located in Michigan.

Stingray

Fletch1750

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<< <i> have said time and time again CSA is just ahead of GAI >>



oh oh....i think a little PSA loyalty blinded you when you wrote this. CSA isnt horrible and i would buy their cards over PRO,GEM, KSA et al in a heartbeat...but i wouldnt compare them to GAI. Maybe if you said SCD instead... >>



SCD with the red circle is legitimate. SCD with the blue circle is questionable. >>



Wrong, I do believe that most of the high dollar/ High grade GAI cards are seriously compromised.