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Security question: Are there any reasons you wouldn't want to make the serial numbers on your slabs

If I posted a scan of a slab with the serial number visible, would I have anything to worry about? Could a dishonest person do something with that information?

Dan

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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I would blot out the serial number. I've wondered, when you see an auction on ebay, if some numbskull would use those serial numbers to create a phoney registry set on PCGS even though they don't own one single coin. I wonder has any member here trying to register a coin had problems registering it because it's registered under someone else's set?

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,609 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The main problem I see is that a low life person can copy the serial number and use it to post the coin up on the registry. One thing that really irks me about the registry system is that crap where the top rated sets have no pictures and not descriptions. All you see is a date and a grade.

    How easy is it to get your hands on a serial number? All you need do is go to some shows and copy them.

    How much trouble is it to write a short note about the coin’s history or appearance? I would think that true collector would be bubbling over with enthusiasm, but not these top rated guys. No, they tell us nothing.

    When you have spent $100 grand or more to build a collection, how can you say that taking pictures is “too expensive?” What a load of crap!

    These people should be forced to show that they really own the coins. If they can’t then they should be kicked off the registry or have their scores cut in half. image
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've wondered, when you see an auction on ebay, if some numbskull would use those serial numbers to create a phoney registry set on PCGS >>



    I don't know if somebody would create an entire set, but cert number theft is common. Whenever I sell a registry quality coin on eBay I park it in a set until the new owner has it just to prevent some slimeball from grabbing the number.

    Russ, NCNE
  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    Good move Russ. Is there any way for a bogus registry set to be proven bogus? If a person contacts PCGS and tells them their slab has been hijacked in a bogus set wouldn't it pretty much be his word against the other's word unless he showed it to them personally? Or maybe the seller would have to verify the name of the person who they sold it to.

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If a person contacts PCGS and tells them their slab has been hijacked in a bogus set wouldn't it pretty much be his word against the other's word unless he showed it to them personally? >>



    When that happens PCGS has the new owner eMail a scan of the slab.

    Russ, NCNE
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    It's a Registry thang.

    Everytime I've had problems with people stealing cert numbers to add to their registry set, BJ takes care of it. People tell her they just "borrowed" it so they could see what effect a coin of that grade would have on their set.

    BJ has stated she'll kick people out of the PCGS Registry who get caught twice.
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  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    It's pretty sad that someone would steal a cert # for their registry set...


  • << <i>It's pretty sad that someone would steal a cert # for their registry set... >>



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    People that sort of thing have forgotten about collecting for the joy of collecting.

    They are just trying to compete with everybody and anybody to go up a few more rungs.

    What benefit a person gets from being way up at the top of the ladder escapes me.
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  • DismeguyDismeguy Posts: 496 ✭✭✭
    I would like to echo the BillJones point about registry sets with no desriptions and photographs. Registry set building is not about collecting holders with high end grades, rather collecting PQ coins for the assigned grades.

    I would like to see PCGS increase their registry set awards criteria to favor those people who take the time to present and market their sets. Looking at a column of MS67 and MS68 coins with no photos does nothing for me....

    NGC does it better.........
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  • I also agree with Bill Jones and Dismeguy about the registries and have vocalised(posted) about the sets entered in one certain category ( you'll know them by a state name and numbers afterimageisgustimage. Getting replies like he doesn't want to be pestered with upgrades and doesn't know how to take pics. If he can spend that kind of coin ( pun intended) to purchase them he could hire somebody to take pics.
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  • bonkroodbonkrood Posts: 796 ✭✭✭
    I've always wondered if someone could scam the insurance company, just using the numbers as proof, with a on line picture?
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