[spam?] 1967 Set # 12 is up for auction
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Prompted by 10 cent listing day which still cost 6 some dollars to list, 1967 Topps current set #12
is up for auction, starting near the price that the "other" auction house (not Mastro) offered me
in cash earlier this year, rounded up to $15 a card and 67 cents for effect. Since it would still have cost
me $10 per thousand to set a reserve I'll just go with the "we'll send you email every few hours on
the last day of the auction" house's offer and see if I even get any bids, and if not then maybe
Mastro will get the action next year...
(as much as you guys would probably want me to sell YOU the Demeter and Seaver card and send Mastro
a "near complete" set LOL)
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Prompted by 10 cent listing day which still cost 6 some dollars to list, 1967 Topps current set #12
is up for auction, starting near the price that the "other" auction house (not Mastro) offered me
in cash earlier this year, rounded up to $15 a card and 67 cents for effect. Since it would still have cost
me $10 per thousand to set a reserve I'll just go with the "we'll send you email every few hours on
the last day of the auction" house's offer and see if I even get any bids, and if not then maybe
Mastro will get the action next year...
(as much as you guys would probably want me to sell YOU the Demeter and Seaver card and send Mastro
a "near complete" set LOL)
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ebay:1967topps
1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
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Stingray
"starting near the price that the "other" auction house (not Mastro) offered me
in cash earlier this year" I don't understand this quote. Did the auction house offer to buy the set outright?
Sorry, you lost me as a potential buyer.
So if you had used BIN and no one bit, then it truly would have only cost you 10 cents for the listing.
I also find it strange that a nobdy is willing to shell out 9 grand. Hmmmmm.......
Steve
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
Don't confuse feedback with recent activity. No activity in 9 months, either buying or selling. I want to know what the buyer has been selling and buying. This set gets a bid right off the bat. We're not talking about a 9.99 opening bid, but 9K.
<< <i>Don't confuse feedback with recent activity. No activity in 9 months, either buying or selling. I want to know what the buyer has been selling and buying. This set gets a bid right off the bat. We're not talking about a 9.99 opening bid, but 9K. >>
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Scott
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1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
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I hope the seller gets 20K for the set.
Scott
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1959 Topps FB PSA 8 & up
1976 Topps FB PSA 9 & up
1981 Topps FB PSA 10
1976-77 Topps BK PSA 9 & up
1988-89 Fleer BK PSA 10
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"I give regular board members the benefit of the doubt before I get worried about their auctions." I'd like to give you change for your $.02. Don't go out too far. A few months back a fellow boardmember, who still posts, admitted he shilled or had his auctions shilled. It was a huge shock to me and everyone else who read the thread and posted a response. He owned up to it and stated that he offer refunds, etc. Good luck to everyone who bids on this auction.
Alan
I think that 1967topps is one of the most respected members on here, I use to collect 67s and he was very helpful to me. I would say bid what you can pay and do not worry about it.
Stingray
Steve
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
That's right everyone is entitled to their opinion. Steve, I remember you had a strong opinion regarding Nedsk. That was you right?
I don't see the need to edit my comments. Better to be cautious than a fool.
You can mock me and I am fine with that, but this is no different than what every other board member does here when they want to comment about a suspicious auction or card that looks trimmed, etc. Does anyone ever have factual proof. No, of course not. Probably only one way to get that. It is kinda like empirical evidence.
I can't figure out why the set wasn't consigned to an auction house. More eyes, more money and at that price probably zero commission. Just doesn't make much sense. He was in active talks with an auction house.
I have nothing to gain or lose from this auction. I have no stake in it. Acowa, your comments lead me to believe you are some how personally involved in this auction. What do you have to gain or lose? I guess I should have waited until after the auction was over to post my concerns. Or should I have posted them before he even listed the set. Get real.
When I visit the wizard and get my brain, what should I ask him to give you?
BS like this is why I got out of the hobby for a number of years.
Mock you???
Whoa fellow. first off why the attack on me? I was doing you a favor by NOT pasting a possible slanderous comment you made.
As for Nedsk yes I had a strong opinion as did 50 other people. my opinion was to wait and see what happened, before I accused him of anything.
You need to re read this thread fellow.
Steve
<< <i>Does anyone ever have factual proof. No, of course not. Probably only one way to get that. >>
umm.. yes.. the seller and the bidder you were questioning are both longtime members of this message board.. they are not the same person..
But I'll try to answer questions, not that I have to, and not that they all came from jayhawk.
>>I can't figure out why the set wasn't consigned to an auction house. More eyes, more money and at that price probably zero commission. Just doesn't make much sense. He was in active talks with an auction house.>>
Why...do you work for an auction house? Which one? Since you seem to know more about my "active talks" than I do. (More below).
It came down to this:
I didn't have it ready in time for the long-lead-time deadlines that Mastro, MemoryLane, Rotman, etc, etc
have to prepare their big glossy catalogs. I wanted to get it done this year so eBay is the way to go.
Yes, I did have single preliminary conversations with some of the auction houses last spring and one of the auction houses did offer me 9K cash for it but not the minimum 10K I wanted so they don't get
a chance to play, and I couldn't get it ready to ship in time. And... at this rate it looks like I'll get more than the 10 unless we have a major recession in the next 7 days, so screw them and their lowball offers.
>>I wish you would have offered some of the singles here first but oh well
If I had, then I wouldn't have a complete set to sell, would I? I have some lovely unlisted PSA 9 OC's for you
graded cards if you're really heartbroken further spam - clearance sale box 10
>>I was going to place a bid on the set until I saw it got a $9,135.67 in the first 7 hours
The STARTING price was 9135.67 genius, so of course it was "up to" 9135.67 after only 7 hours.
>>In addition, from a buyer who really hasn't bought or sold anything in the last 9 months except for 1 transaction>>
Actually the initial bid and the current leader (of 4 bids) are different. Currently leader is wondo.
Am I supposed to cancel wondo's bid because he only bought one thing in the last nine months?
That auction has 35 watchers already, and usually the guy who bids early isn't the guy who's
at his computer as the auction ends. Who cares who has the early lead (just ask Lee Mazzilli
about his first place O's how that worked out being the front runner on June 1).
>>If your concerned the auction isn't legit, go to the set registry link and email the owner
Not necessary, the owner is right here reading in amazement. Unless you think you'll get someone
else if you email pmountnj at aol...
>>Acowa, your comments lead me to believe you are some how personally involved in this auction. What do you have to gain or lose>>
Acowa and I have been aware of each other, buying/selling for five years. He knows who's a
long time collector and you by comparison, despite this forum awarding you a "senior member" moniker for being on since Aug 2004, are a relative newcomer and I don't know that we've actually done ANY deals to completion
>>the seller and the bidder you were questioning are both longtime members of this message board.. they are not the same person>>
Do you have some reason to believe that I am shilling my own auction? Not a chance, even if I only give one sh*t about being among the top collectors of this wonderful year any more
>>Sorry, you lost me as a potential buyer
as if I ever had you. Did you want to bid a thousand or two? Should I have started it at a buck so you
could play too?
I don't really know who you are, if you really do business with anyone or just get on here and talk
a big deal, or if you are affiliated with an auction house. I do know that the expression behind "W.T.F"
comes to a lot of readers minds when they look at the stuff you are posting.
1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
Yeah, I realize the opening bid was $9,135.67, not $9.99.
I stated that I was going to bid, so your comment about ever having me is not valid. I can assure you that you don't have me now.
Steve-You were the most out spoken person on the nedsk thread, and you were entitled to your opinion. You are making passive aggressive comments to me. That is why I commented to you.
A little surprised at the tone of some of the messages on this thread - maybe because some people don't know the seller, and the large amount of money involved.
I would like to add my voice to supporting 1967 topps. I have done many deals with him and he is a straight shooter. Any insinuation of shilling, etc, is false.
I don't know wondo (current high bidder), but I do know the current high bid will not be the final bid ; )
Live long and prosper.
<< <i>I feel much better that you posted here. No I am not an auction house or anyone with a stake in your auction. >>
You say you don't have a stake in the auction...but then you say..
<< <i>
I stated that I was going to bid, so your comment about ever having me is not valid. >>
So you were going to bid, meaning you DID have a stake in the auction. I find it highly contemptuous of you that without any proof whatsoever, you come on and accuse someone of shill bidding. You didn't come right out and say it, but indirectly accusing someone of such is simply unacceptable.
I agree with the above posted that you owe the seller an immediate and sincere apology.
I am pretty appalled by your post. The seller is a respected board member by me and many others on this message board. I have done several deals with him as we built our respective PSA 8 sets. He's selling a set that he's worked on for several years. Someone that doesn't realize that you have absolutely no clue about what you're talking about might read your post and miss out on a nice set and the seller may be hurt financially because of your reckless and irresponsible post. There are people on the board that know both the high bidder AND the seller...so you've already been proven wrong. Haven't you dug yourself a big enough hole already??? It's time to drop the shovel.
Alan
Keep posting and I am going to respond. I guess while we are at it, some of the 8's sure look borderline for center. Blow up the scans and I am surprise with some of the corners that the cards got into 8 holders.
"the seller may be hurt financially because of your reckless and irresponsible post." Your problem is that I can respect your comments, but you just can't seem to respect my comments. Oh, and by the way, the seller stated he was only looking for 10K on the set. He is 30 dollars short of that, so nice try. Maybe this thread will help him?
When you are appalled, try not to get sick. I don't know the seller, have zero knowledge of him, have zero transactions with him. Oh, so now you are telling people how they should think and what they should say. What country is this? I think you are irresponsible and have nothing but spin to add. You lose your credibility every time you make a post.
jay with all due respect where did you come up with that?
just cuz 67 topps said it would cost 10.00 per thousand to do a reserve type auction? does not mean he only wants 10k for it.
Steve
<< <i>Oh, and by the way, the seller stated he was only looking for 10K on the set. He is 30 dollars short of that, >>
<< <i>
When you are appalled, try not to get sick. I don't know the seller, have zero knowledge of him, have zero transactions with him. Oh, so now you are telling people how they should think and what they should say. What country is this? I think you are irresponsible and have nothing but spin to add. You lose your credibility every time you make a post. >>
You have no knowledge of him, no transactions, but you call him a shill seller?
Poor form, poor form.
It's a country where someone could sue the living sh*t out of you for slander and win in court for the comments that you have made. You've basically accused someone publicly of a criminal activity with absolutely no proof whatsoever.
You might not have done all that swell in Political Science but you don't have the right to make slanderous comments about people on a public message board.
Hopefully, what goes around comes around in your case.
You might not have done all that swell in Political Science but you don't have the right to make slanderous comments about people on a public message board.
Hopefully, what goes around comes around in your case."
HAHAHAHAH. You self-serving, cronies. I guess the first party to sue would be CU. I guess I'll go over both of your 7,508 posts and start picking fly sh*t out of pepper. Humm, I bet I find a few hypocrites.
"You have no knowledge of him, no transactions, but you call him a shill seller?" I don't need to to make an oberservation.
So what about Wondo, you guys know him? Lets talk about him.
Aowa, you still haven't told me what to ask the wizard to give you?
If you think you are going to keep throwing around the words slander and sue to get me to edit my comments, don't hold your breath.
<< <i>Oh, now people know the bidder? I would love the bidder to join the discussion. That '62 topps might have made its way back to ebay, but just under different user name. Can Wondo be or belated to ncaahockeychamps? No scans yet, but some of his descriptions sure do sound like the scans of the cards Wondo won. Is there a MN connection? Everyone on the board knows Wondo, where is he from?
Keep posting and I am going to respond. I guess while we are at it, some of the 8's sure look borderline for center. Blow up the scans and I am surprise with some of the corners that the cards got into 8 holders.
"the seller may be hurt financially because of your reckless and irresponsible post." Your problem is that I can respect your comments, but you just can't seem to respect my comments. Oh, and by the way, the seller stated he was only looking for 10K on the set. He is 30 dollars short of that, so nice try. Maybe this thread will help him?
When you are appalled, try not to get sick. I don't know the seller, have zero knowledge of him, have zero transactions with him. Oh, so now you are telling people how they should think and what they should say. What country is this? I think you are irresponsible and have nothing but spin to add. You lose your credibility every time you make a post. >>
i told you in an earlier post that both the seller AND bidder you were accusing of shill bidding are 2 different people, both longtime members of this forum.. they are different people, and do not live in the same state.. neither one of them live in Minnesota, why the hell did you even bring up Minnesota?
now you're bashing the mans cards just because your panties are too tight..
YOU are the one that's losing credibility with every post, but please, keep posting as you say you will.. idiot..
and learn how to use the friggin quote function so your unintelligent posts are easier to decipher..
Perry you were wilth me until I commented on the cards, thanks idiot.
Just being passive here.
SD
Did you throw a bid for that to happen? Just being passive like you.
What is up with you?
I have never seen you act this way before.
The current hi bidder hacnac is not me.
Steve
I believe you had a first impression regarding this auction and like a horse with blinders on you steadfastly refuse to acknowledge that you MAY be wrong.
67 topp's first post was a lil confusing but after I re read it I understood it, Surely you are not the dullest tool in this shed are you? Everyone to a man here understands what is happenning but you.
Steve
My 2 cents
Second of all, if anybody wants to to go halfs or a portion on this with me, I would love to discuss it further. I am pretty sure Acowa & Ejguru will vouch for me, as well as other respected posters. PM me & lets go from there.
Either way, good luck to 1967Topps & his auction.
Be good my brothers.
and bought a pack containing five cards and gum. Later that spring that pre-teen really splurged, saving his allowance
and buying a whole wax box for $1.20
(A year later he tried to re-create that magic moment by buying a 1968 wax pack, saw the burlap border
and must have uttered "WTF is this???" LOL)
Thanks for the support, except from "Milton Newton" who lived in my town before he moved to Washington DC.
1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
agreed ... not only lame, but borderline lunatic
<< <i>I was going to place a bid on the set until I saw it got a $9,135.67 in the first 7 hours. In addition, from a buyer who really hasn't bought or sold anything in the last 9 months except for 1 transaction. I think I would feel more comfortable bidding on the set if it in Mastro or another auction house.
Sorry, you lost me as a potential buyer. >>
Hmm, are we looking at the same buyers here?
Opening Bid: $9235.67 User ID: senileman 2306 feedback score
Transaction history for senileman (from sellers):
Nov-12-05 05:45 8710591506
awesome ebayer A++++++++++++
Seller njdevilss30 ( 229) Nov-09-05 19:28 8714181678
Great transaction: Fast, Fast, Fast. THANK YOU! Let's do it again...
Seller rustywilly ( 1665) Nov-08-05 20:12 8716424430
LIGHTNING FAST PAYMENT: A+++
Seller kevin62 ( 5765) Nov-08-05 14:33 8711590249
This is the way it should aways be. SUPER FAST Payment! Cards on the way!
Seller pat-alaska ( 1445) Nov-08-05 10:57 8716941581
FAST to Pay! Paid within 24hrs of Auction End, THANKS! Please Bid Anytime!
Seller pat-alaska ( 1445) Nov-08-05 10:57 8716941365
Fast payment, smooth transaction, would deal with again, A+++++
Seller texasco ( 973) Nov-08-05 06:49 8716393636
Thanks again Nick for your bids, excellent ebayer, card shipped 11/7!!!!
Seller jgc35 ( 996) Nov-07-05 06:08 8715928287
Thank you for your rapid fast payment, excellent ebayer, card shipped 11/7!!!!
Seller jgc35 ( 996) Nov-07-05 06:07 8715929174
Great return customer.....A+++
Seller trcollectiblesplus ( 1197) Nov-03-05 16:59 5193163553
Another nice transaction! Thanks! A+++
Seller kaisercards ( 2059) Nov-02-05 11:15 8714286871
Great Ebayer Thanks A++++ Transaction Fast payment
Seller peskychips ( 59) Nov-02-05 07:45 8709076025
Supurb transaction in all regards Thanks Nick Item on the way !!!
Seller fscards1 ( 3022) Nov-01-05 18:57 5232361421
Excellent transaction
Seller discountslasvegas ( 2528) Nov-01-05 13:14 8708071415
Fast Payer...Great eBayer...A++++
Seller sportdeals4u ( 23380) Nov-01-05 11:13 5243862131
Looks to be pretty active as a buyer to me!
No, now you are being cute. You know we are talking about the first opening bid by Wondo. Now where did you say Wondo was from? Was it NJ or PA? Is there a connection between him and the seller? Keep going.. I guess you don't want the thread to die. BTW you can't sue someone for slander for what they post here. Did you mean libel?
<< <i>Oh, now people know the bidder? I would love the bidder to join the discussion. That '62 topps might have made its way back to ebay, but just under different user name. Can Wondo be or belated to ncaahockeychamps? No scans yet, but some of his descriptions sure do sound like the scans of the cards Wondo won. Is there a MN connection? Everyone on the board knows Wondo, where is he from?
Keep posting and I am going to respond. I guess while we are at it, some of the 8's sure look borderline for center. Blow up the scans and I am surprise with some of the corners that the cards got into 8 holders.
"the seller may be hurt financially because of your reckless and irresponsible post." Your problem is that I can respect your comments, but you just can't seem to respect my comments. Oh, and by the way, the seller stated he was only looking for 10K on the set. He is 30 dollars short of that, so nice try. Maybe this thread will help him?
When you are appalled, try not to get sick. I don't know the seller, have zero knowledge of him, have zero transactions with him. Oh, so now you are telling people how they should think and what they should say. What country is this? I think you are irresponsible and have nothing but spin to add. You lose your credibility every time you make a post. >>
You're an a$$ - how old are you? 12?
<< <i>Axtell,
No, now you are being cute. You know we are talking about the first opening bid by Wondo. >>
No, I'm not trying to be cute...I pulled the bid history and 'senile' was the first one I saw...I'm SOOOOO sorry I made an error and didn't know someone else had an opening bid.
<< <i>BTW you can't sue someone for slander for what they post here. Did you mean libel? >>
Perhaps not, but have some sort of conscience about what you post...it's obvious you have had an agenda against this seller since this thread began. And it's obvious there is interest in this set, as Wondo is not the only one making bids.
<< <i>Perry you were wilth me until I commented on the cards, thanks idiot. >>
huh? i wasnt with you at all in this thread, not since you blindly accused 1967topps and Wondo of shill bidding.. you were off base from the start..
1967Topps talk to us about the Sims, Romano, Nash, Pirates Rookies, Marichal checklist card or the WS Game 2 card ANYTHING that will talk about the set instead of this mindless drival. What was your toughest card to get & how happy were u when u got it.
TB
Be good my brothers.
I'm not sure I've ever seen such an insane post on these boards. From Ted (Splendid Splinter) to Alan (ACAOWA) to suspecting Paul of shilling--I guess I can say NOW I have seen it all. How ridiculous!
Used to working on HOF SS Baseballs--Now just '67 Sox Stickers and anything Boston related.
<< <i>Let it go! Geez!!!
1967Topps talk to us about the Sims, Romano, Nash, Pirates Rookies, Marichal checklist card or the WS Game 2 card ANYTHING that will talk about the set instead of this mindless drival. What was your toughest card to get & how happy were u when u got it.
TB >>
and
<< <i>I'm not sure I've ever seen such an insane post on these boards. From Ted (Splendid Splinter) to Alan (ACAOWA) to suspecting Paul of shilling--I guess I can say NOW I have seen it all. How ridiculous! >>
i seriously hope neither one of you are talking to me, but both your posts were directly after mine.. are you calling my posts insane? if so, i will refrain from ever sticking up for somebody on these boards again.. the only "insane" posts were made by Jayhawke..
my posts were DEFENDING the auction, and pointing out FACTS.. so if you were speaking to me, you need to lose the "holier than thou" attitude..
[sarcasm on] but, I'm sure 1967Topps wouldve preferred us to just let Jayhawke run off at the mouth accusing him of shill bidding without defending his auction [/sarcasm off]
Edited to say- I would like to let this go. I have said what I wanted to say, but if Wondo wants to answer my questions that would be great.