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p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
This is the way I would do it.
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3D slab with top view of what coin it is. And it is rounded and near the edge of the coin and clear for a good view of most of the edge. For storage/transporting/everything else except looking at the coin.. it slips into the sheath to make a perfect rectangle that protects the coin from snapping apart from the label and also protects the plastic from getting scratched.

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  • I was unaware that ANACS is entertaining new slab designs. When did this happen?
  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    There is a new slab coming out in January supposedly. No one knows what it looks like except for ANACS. This is just the way I would do it. I thought it might be kind of fun for people to create their own slabs.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't want a two piece slab, but having a clear edge and the grade/coin printed on top would be nice.
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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As far as the top labelling goes, SEGS already has this feature. It's really too bad the market perception of their grading (undeserved IMO) is so bad.

    Let's see what ANACS comes up with. It's good to see some innovation from them for a change. It's been LONG overdue. They belong right up there with the "Top Two" in my opinion-I'd LOVE to see them knock NGC from their undeserved (once again, in my opinion) lofty perch.
  • Better than some 3rd world slabs !
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since we're being innovative...

    How about the WeissCo Spinner Slab™?

    The coin is sonically sealed within a snug-fitting capsule similar to the Kointainer style holders:
    image

    Except that the WeissCo coin-tainer is significantly more sturdy, and it has two integral lugs at top and bottom. These lugs lock the coin securely within the slab proper but allows the coin to "spin" back-to-front. This in turn allows for complete viewing of the coin's obverse, reverse, and 97%+ of the coin's edge surfaces, too.

    Additional features include top view coin information ala SEGS. And since the coin is sealed within a crystal clear coin-tainer, a variety of custom colors can be chosen for the insert surrounding the coin-tainer (maroon, indigo, teal, white, black, or new CrystalClear™) for a small additional fee. This is a particularly nice feature to help accent toners and gold coins. Overall slab size and thickness is comparable to NGC. All components are 100% inert, and since the lugs are integral to the coin-tainer, removal of the coin-tainer from the slab proper is only achievable by destroying the lugs--making the system tamper-proof.


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    All components of the WeissCo spinner slab Copyright 2005 The Electrum Group, Inc. Components are available on a per-slab royalty.

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  • Weiss: That is awesome. You should really make those!
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Weiss: That is awesome. You should really make those! >>



    He is going to have a fun time drilling the hole through the coin to put the spinner shaft in...image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Weiss: That is awesome. You should really make those! >>



    He is going to have a fun time drilling the hole through the coin to put the spinner shaft in...image >>



    Nope. The lugs are just at top and bottom of the coin-tainer. The coin rests securely and unaltered in it's sonically sealed and 100% inert holder.
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The key to the WeissCo spinner slab: the hex-lug locking spinner shaft. The integral hexagon shaft allows the coin to spin freely, yet also allows for the coin to click into one of six angles, including edge-out, before being clicked back into obverse-forward or reverse-forward position:

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  • << <i>Since we're being innovative...

    How about the WeissCo Spinner Slab™?

    The coin is sonically sealed within a snug-fitting capsule similar to the Kointainer style holders:
    image

    Except that the WeissCo coin-tainer is significantly more sturdy, and it has two integral lugs at top and bottom. These lugs lock the coin securely within the slab proper but allows the coin to "spin" back-to-front. This in turn allows for complete viewing of the coin's obverse, reverse, and 97%+ of the coin's edge surfaces, too.

    Additional features include top view coin information ala SEGS. And since the coin is sealed within a crystal clear coin-tainer, a variety of custom colors can be chosen for the insert surrounding the coin-tainer (maroon, indigo, teal, white, black, or new CrystalClear™) for a small additional fee. This is a particularly nice feature to help accent toners and gold coins. Overall slab size and thickness is comparable to NGC. All components are 100% inert, and since the lugs are integral to the coin-tainer, removal of the coin-tainer from the slab proper is only achievable by destroying the lugs--making the system tamper-proof.


    image




    All components of the WeissCo spinner slab Copyright 2005 The Electrum Group, Inc. Components are available on a per-slab royalty.

    image >>




    Kind of cool but you'd have to have some pretty good anti tampering things going on.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,270 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As far as the top labelling goes, SEGS already has this feature. It's really too bad the market perception of their grading (undeserved IMO) is so bad.

    Let's see what ANACS comes up with. It's good to see some innovation from them for a change. It's been LONG overdue. They belong right up there with the "Top Two" in my opinion-I'd LOVE to see them knock NGC from their undeserved (once again, in my opinion) lofty perch. >>


    The one thing stopping ANACS from having a top-label slab is the position of the weld on the current ones, which is right across the middle of what would be the top label. When Amos came out with the do-it-yourself slabs, they made them so they fit together without having to be welded, and a top label looks quite nice in these (clicky). Were these slabs welded, the seam would no go through the label. I wonder if this is part of ANACS's redesign.
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    Weiss:

    Looks cool but I would be concerned with the lugs breaking and the coin coming loose.
  • "How about the WeissCo Spinner Slab™?"


    ............a good idea and a decent looking slab.........image.........but it looks like you (WeissCo) will either have to get into the top tier of grading or get in cahoots with one of the bigger graders...........image
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the thumbs up, guys. You'll just have to experience the thickness and durability of the lugs in person when the bidding war ends and the winning TPG incorporates the spinner slab features. image

    Inspiration strikes at the strangest moments. I was just making it up as I went along and it all kind of came together. Wait until you see the 2nd generation WeissCo spinner slabs, including multi-coin holders and up-and-down spinning movements in addition to standard left-to-right. And the 3rd generation with up-down and left-right spinning movements for the elite collector (based on phoropter devices that optometrists use to test vision: better now or now? Better now, or now?)

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    And thanks to p8nt for the thread!
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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    just leave your coins out of slabs. then you can see all 3 sides, no problem.

    K S
  • Try figuring out the mold for the plastic. Consider the dimensions for draft (mold release feature)
    So, you might draw it out to scale.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    The Weiss Spinner looks interesting. I wonder how coins could be reholdered when the plastic gets scratched, looks to be potential damage to the coin as the plastic is cracked for removal.
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  • coinandcurrency242coinandcurrency242 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a coin being displayed as a trophy image

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weiss- I like it!

    But would it be cost-effective to produce?

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  • good idea but.......... I would have the coin flip from top to bottom instead of side to side. When you flip the coin side to side you will see the upsidedown reverse.


    Have the posts like below.



    <-------------- coin ---------------->



    PURPLE!
  • I agree with Purple on this one- side post the Weissco slab- now that IS ingenious- better patent it quick!
  • On the Weiss slab, you'll need the posts to be either square or octagon if you want the
    detents to stop the coin with the edge perpendicular to the slab. A hexagonal post
    would stop the coin at 60 degree increments. image

    Ken
  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    I don't understand the spinner slab thing, are people too lazy to just flip the slab over-----------------------BigEimage
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  • Weiss, Very Cool design
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  • p8ntp8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭
    My thread got hijacked!

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>good idea but.......... I would have the coin flip from top to bottom instead of side to side. When you flip the coin side to side you will see the upsidedown reverse.


    Have the posts like below.



    <-------------- coin ---------------->



    PURPLE! >>



    You must have missed the post where I mentioned the 2nd generation slabs... (see above optometrist post above) image
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So it's only been 7 years since I TM'd the spinner slab here on CU.

    You think the Government of Taiwan owes me some royalties? image

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you file for a patent?
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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you file for a patent?
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    Would they respect it? image
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Did you file for a patent?
    image >>




    foreign patents?
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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nah, the cointainer should tab lock into the slab with the number on a narrow strip around the rim.
    Then they should make an album that would match the tablocks and give a great way to display as well as authenticate and grade.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Did you file for a patent?
    image >>



    Would they respect it? image >>



    Probably, if you were granted one by their patent office. image

    It's kind of cool to see your idea turned to reality, even if you're not getting credit for it.
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>
    It's kind of cool to see your idea turned to reality, even if you're not getting credit for it. >>



    That's actually a good point. What they've done is exactly how I pictured it in my head, and what I tried to convey with my incredibly primitive drafting skills (and a similarly primitive edition of MS Paint).

    It is kind of cool to see it in person.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weiss - Did you file your patent in Taiwan?
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that's the coin, not the holder.


    who knows where the holder was made. perhaps taiwan, perhaps china, etc.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A gimmick that looks like a child's toy
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a joke right!
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I actually like the spinner slab and don't think it's a gimmick. I like the ability of AirTites to give you a full unobstructed view of the edge and the spinner slab does a good job of providing a similar level of visibility.
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Weiss - Did you file your patent in Taiwan? >>



    No, of course not.
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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Shouldn't pivots be on sides instead of top and bottom so reverse won't be viewed upside down?
    image Respectfully, Mark
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,730 ✭✭✭✭✭
    not impressed at all

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shouldn't pivots be on sides instead of top and bottom so reverse won't be viewed upside down? >>




    better patent that too.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No patent. Just an idea posted on an internet forum 5 years ago.
    Something that someone else could easily think of, especially given the evolution of slabs and the hobby (and coins with edge designs/inscriptions).
    Design has some similarities (the rotating coin) but didn't take the top labeling, so obviously not a complete ripoff. Also, most of that slab design has already been around.

    So, it is just the rotating portion that seems to be the issue and, again, it is something that someone else could think of, and pull off. If the thought was posted 5 years ago, but never attempted to be advanced, can it really be protected for all that time? I honestly don't know, but I am sure some folks have done patents and would know. Would also have to prove that someone didn't independently come up with the idea and/or didn't have it prior to 5 years ago but there was never a financial reason to move forward at that time....

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,122 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Weiss: That is awesome. You should really make those! >>

    i agree and think hes got something there image
  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No patent. Just an idea posted on an internet forum 5 years ago.
    Something that someone else could easily think of, especially given the evolution of slabs and the hobby (and coins with edge designs/inscriptions).
    Design has some similarities (the rotating coin) but didn't take the top labeling, so obviously not a complete ripoff. Also, most of that slab design has already been around.

    So, it is just the rotating portion that seems to be the issue and, again, it is something that someone else could think of, and pull off. If the thought was posted 5 years ago, but never attempted to be advanced, can it really be protected for all that time? I honestly don't know, but I am sure some folks have done patents and would know. Would also have to prove that someone didn't independently come up with the idea and/or didn't have it prior to 5 years ago but there was never a financial reason to move forward at that time....

    Much ado about nada >>



    No, yeah. I see where you're going. Let me try: Knives have been around for eons. A pocket knife is just a rotating blade. Nothing special there.
    Pistols have been around for centuries. Revolvers didn't advance the technology. After all, it's just a rotating barrel. Nothing new.

    That about right? image
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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Neat idea! Does Taiwan gave its own grading company? Whose logo is it on the slab
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