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baseball 2005's worst players

i'll start out with sammy sosa "the warrior" as he proclaimed himself is having a dredful year 14 homeruns 45 rbi and a 221 avg. can anyone be worse?

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sosa - no juice...no production.
  • Beltran 14hrs 64 rbis 16 sb .267 has to be in there.
    How about Todd Helton, Jason Schmidt, Jim Thome, Curt Schilling.
    No Juice = No production for a lot of guys
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Not really sure Schilling should be in that mix..he's been hurt most of the year.

    And Helton? He's batting over .300, with 17 homers, and will probably end up with about 25 homers, not that far off his last 2 years (just saying these two shouldn't be called out as steroid users).



    I'd like to nominate Beltre from my mariners for most disappointing.


  • Sosa has to be there, but what about Cristian Guzmán? .198 average 3 home runs and 19 RBIs for a guy who was signed to make a difference on the Nationals?

    Here are my biggest disappointments this year (will only list 10 and not in any particular order)

    1. Sam-ME Sosa - the guy was ticked because a limo didn't pick him up from the airport to bring him to his (it's always "his") new team. Well Sammy, guess the Orioles knew what type of season they would get. Should I call your interpreter for a response?
    2. Raffy Palmeiro - Decent numbers, but he lied to all of us on his steroid use. I don't mind the use, but don't lie to me in the way you did.
    3. Ichiro Suzuki - Someone get this guy's steroid results. I love watching this guy play, but this year his numbers are way off. Is he too focused on power this year? Ichiro, go back to the way you were last year.
    4. Carlos Beltran - Was he ever truly worth $117M? Talk about the Mets falling into an availability bias trap
    5. Todd Helton - Will put up good numbers, but they all came during the second half. Too little too late for one of MLB's best players.
    6. Phil Nevin - How bad do you have to be to go from a bad team to a worse team that needs you and get benched?
    7. Barry Zito - What happened? Down, then up, and now down? Too inconsistent
    8. Jason Schmidt , yeah a 12-6 record, but 4.25 ERA????? C'mon.
    9. Christian Guzman - See comment above
    10. David Wells - The only thing that keeps expanding along with his ERA is his waistline.

    I would also include Corey Patterson, Kerry Wood, and Mark Prior on this list, but cannot do so as my views would be too biased given my team's performance this year.
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  • This award goes to Brett "I sure do miss Roids" Boone, without a doubt........
    Am I speaking Chinese?



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  • Bret Boone's comback has been a bust this year.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 28,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< Not really sure Schilling should be in that mix..he's been hurt most of the year. >>>

    Disagree - Schilling should be in that mix. One big benefit, possibly the biggest benefit of the juice is that it helps you to not only avoid injury, but heal much quicker. This is so important over a 162 game season as even a baseball player is going to sometimes get nicked up a little bit - pulled muscles, etc. Of course the steroids eat away at all your internal filtering organs such as the liver and kidneys. Ain't gonna be many long lifespans for these steroid guys.

  • Curt Schilling - 6.96 ERA


  • << <i>This award goes to Brett "I sure do miss Roids" Boone, without a doubt........ >>



    Quiote possibly the biggest abuser of growth hormone is no longer in the game, so he may not even qualify as the worst player as he is too far beyond that.
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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭


    << <i>David Wells - The only thing that keeps expanding along with his ERA is his waistline. >>



    Excuse me? Wells has been quite effective most of the year (he just threw a complete game Sunday at 42 years old) - take out 2-3 bad outings, and his ERA would be impressive.

    Schilling has been hurt all year, and trying to help his team out by pitching in unfamiliar circumstances - he doesn't deserve to be on the list.

    I have refused to say anything bad about Beltran all season, but the time has come. What a first year bust he has been, especially for the size of the contract he signed. He fails to produce in many key spots for the Mets night after night.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


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    Quiote possibly the biggest abuser of growth hormone is no longer in the game, so he may not even qualify as the worst player as he is too far beyond that. >>



    Are you talking about McGwire, the guy you are idolizing in your signature?


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    Quiote possibly the biggest abuser of growth hormone is no longer in the game, so he may not even qualify as the worst player as he is too far beyond that. >>



    Are you talking about McGwire, the guy you are idolizing in your signature? >>



    Note to self: "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant"

    OK, that is better
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  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    Mike Lowell isn't having much of a season.
  • I think I'll make this my new signature.

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    Look closely and you can almost see the track marks in his arms!!! What an astonishing display of cheating.

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  • Sorry about that last post, couldn't resist.

    p.s. On topic, I'd definitely agree and vote for Sosa. Earning over $1,000,000 per HR this year.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    Note to self: "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant" "Do not respond to the stupid and ignorant"

    OK, that is better >>



    Are you talking to yourself again? I mean calling out one player for using HGH then saying Mac was clean is pretty funny if you ask me.
  • Always have to do this as a PSA: Steroids and Growth Hormone are not the same.

    Axtell, on some topics you are great, on others just stupid or plain stubborn. Growth hormone is much different than steroids and serve different purposes, although the end objective may be the same. McGwire has all the signs of steroids, and players like Bonds and Boone have massive signs of growth hormone. Both Bonds' and Boone's heads are bigger than the Kingdome and Candlestick Park put together. Did you see Barry yesterday practicing before the game against the Dodgers?

    Two things I kept saying two things:

    1. How did his head get so big?
    2. Old Barry + Barry's current trainer rolled into one person = Barry Today.

    That is how huge Barry is. And I find it ironic that Barry stayed in tip-top shape after reconstructive surgery on his knee. I find that odd, yet he will continue to deny using something and continue to stick it to the rest of us regular folks.

    But I'm glad he is back, because baseball has been boring without Bonds.

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  • baseball has been boring without Bonds

    Wow.

    Baseball is never boring. Never. And if you need Barry Bonds, or sports center web gems, or fantasy baseball, or steriods, or jumbotrons, or whatever other distractions and hype and side shows to believe otherwise, go back to watching the WWF.
  • Sosa, Lowell, Beltre, Beltran


  • << <i>baseball has been boring without Bonds

    Wow.

    Baseball is never boring. Never. And if you need Barry Bonds, or sports center web gems, or fantasy baseball, or steriods, or jumbotrons, or whatever other distractions and hype and side shows to believe otherwise, go back to watching the WWF. >>



    I meant relatively speaking. Sure the wild card races are fun this year and it is good to see what some of the rookies are doing along with the perennials like Jones and Pujols, but Bonds makes it very exciting like no one else.
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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Baseball is never boring. Never. And if you need Barry Bonds, or sports center web gems, or fantasy baseball, or steriods, or jumbotrons, or whatever other distractions and hype and side shows to believe otherwise, go back to watching the WWF. >>



    That's pretty abrasive. Do we have a new Axtell alt? And he's trying to throw everyone off by using Gemmy's avatar.
  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    What's wrong with that statement? If you need the circus that is Barry Bonds to make baseball enjoyable and interesting, then you do indeed have a problem. Watch and enjoy the young players who play the game the right way (clean) - like Pujols, Cabrera, and the like. Barry Bonds hasn't been missed at all IMO - and I hope he never returns to the game.
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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What's wrong with that statement? >>



    Megatron was just saying that baseball is more interesting when Bonds is around because he is so controversial.

    I have no problem with what the guy said but taking the WWF shot at the end was a little abrasive.
  • megatron,

    I do actually agree with your general sentiment, obviously not specifically about Bonds of course, but in general... It has been, I don't know, kind of a slow season I suppose. It seems like there's a lot of sub-par play as well, at least here in the AL East.

    Also, assuming you're a Cubs fan, I can imagine the season got a little boring when the Cardinals pretty much clinched the division by the 4th of July. Baseball life is always a lot more fun for everyone with the Cubs in it, and I was actually looking forward to a monster season from our former SS out there, which was obviously a big let down.

    And to your self-designated mouthpiece "CardsFan", all I can say is... see you in the October and better luck this year.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Baseball has (at least for me) been much more enjoyable without Bonds in the picture this year.

    No stories of his upset at the media, taking shots at the Babe, and all the garbage that goes with his ego has been awfully welcome this year. It's allowed the new stars of the national league (Pujols, Lee, etc) take the stage without his antics taking up space.

    If you need Bonds to be entertained, what do you plan on doing in a year when he hangs it up? Are you going to quit watching?

    Do you feel the same way about TO? I mean they have the same ego, the same desire to have their name in the press no matter if it's good or bad.

  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And to your self-designated mouthpiece "CardsFan", all I can say is... see you in the October and better luck this year. >>



    We made the series nothing to be ashamed of.
  • estangestang Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭
    Christian Guzman

    Free Agent signing for $4.2 million multi-year contract and puts up the following:

    .196 Average (lowest I ever recall), 3 home runs, 19 RBIs in 120 games and 381 at bats.

    Guy was the starting shortstop for 3 peat AL Central division winning Minnesota Twins and does this for the Washington Nationals.
    Enjoy your collection!
    Erik
  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Randy Johnson. He hasn't been the worst but definitely a HUGE disappointment.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>I'm surprised no one has mentioned Randy Johnson. He hasn't been the worst but definitely a HUGE disappointment. >>



    Wouldn't that same argument apply to the entire $85 million payroll pitching staff of the spankees?
  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wouldn't that same argument apply to the entire $85 million payroll pitching staff of the spankees? >>



    True, but he was the guy they bought to be their ace so he should be named over the others.
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