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What are "die lines" on a coin and what causes them?

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
I was looking at a quarter eagle and it had what was described as "die lines" near the edge on about a quarter of the surface of the coin. I don't have a picture right now, but I was wondering what die lines are, and what causes them? Does anyone have a picture? Does it detract from the value of the coin?
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  • Maybe they meant die polishing lines? Otherwise, I have no idea.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe they mean die cracks or die erosion lines.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What DickyBetz said.
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  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In the early US series a die line can be caused as the result of the engravers tool, the graver, slipping out of place, resulting in a stray line on the working die. This happened frequently at the corners of the shield on bust halves. The best example I am aware of is 1807 O.107 "long stem" where the graver slipped out of place while engraving the stem through claw, resulting in a prominent line extending to the rim. Some die lines and die defects cannot be explained.
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another well-known example of a die cutter's slip of the tool is the 1814 O-103 reverse. (Although I have no idea what he was doing at the time.)

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He could also be refering to planchet adjustment marks.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Robert, I have a high end type Liberty Nickel with die striation lines. They llook like hairlines, except they radiate out from the coin's edge and are parallel to one another. They don't seem to affect a coin's grade.

    Die polishing marks are a different animal. They look like very fine hairlines, and are close to one another. They sit on the coin's surface, and also don't seem to affect a coin's grade.
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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    Here is what die polish lines look like on a "prooflike" MS gold piece.

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