POLL: Soriano nearly as good as Arod?
Axtell
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This is to quiet Mr. Stalin (is that possible).
JS's contention is that Soriano has more years in front of him, and is every bit as good a player as Arod. The overwhelming majority of posts disagree with him.
Arod and Soriano are nearly the same age (Arod is 6 months older), so I (and most everyone else) are puzzled how Soriano has more years left.
So I ask this: is Soriano anywhere near the same level of player that Arod is? Who would you rather have on your team? Who will end up with more numbers in MVP, gold gloves, BA, HR, RBI?
Please post away!
JS's contention is that Soriano has more years in front of him, and is every bit as good a player as Arod. The overwhelming majority of posts disagree with him.
Arod and Soriano are nearly the same age (Arod is 6 months older), so I (and most everyone else) are puzzled how Soriano has more years left.
So I ask this: is Soriano anywhere near the same level of player that Arod is? Who would you rather have on your team? Who will end up with more numbers in MVP, gold gloves, BA, HR, RBI?
Please post away!
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Kevin
One thing Ive never known about these polls, can the same person vote more than once?
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CU turns its lonely eyes to you
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Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
JS
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<< <i>Don't forget to take in account Arods 25 mil...Alf doesn' even get a thrid of that!
JS >>
Why do you continue to bring that up?
How much did Arod make after his first four years?
How much will Soriano make when he signs a new deal?
APPLES AND ORANGES JOE!
You can't compare their contracts because Arod has been in the league longer, done MUCH more, and is an overall stronger asset than Soriano.
think about it
stats to pay-wad.
JS
<< <i>actually Soriano DID get a new deal, he was making around 3.5 mil his first few years...those same years putting up comparable
stats to pay-wad.
JS >>
How much was Arod making after his first four years in the league Joe? Why don't you compare those numbers?
Of course a sure fire hall of famer who has been in the league for 10 years is going to make TONS more cash than someone who's only had 4 full years under his belt.
What, next you'll be saying that Big Ben is a better QB than Peyton Manning because they put up similar numbers and Peyton makes all that money!
think about it
<< <i>Hey Axy please answer my question. why is it that 40% of the people that you polled disagree with you?
think about it >>
If they can let their personal opinions about me get in the way of honestly answering a poll question, well I feel sorry for them. If they feel so strongly about me that they cannot honestly answer something as trivial and as meaningless as a poll question, well, what does that say about them (and you, since I know YOU voted in opposition to my poll because you despise me so? How pathetic is that?)
<< <i>correct you are despicable. >>
Awesome. How sad is it you can form opinions like that about me, without even knowing me?
I been talking with you for the past year off and on. Ive chatted in PM.
I KNOW YOU
sad
SD
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I KNOW YOU
SD >>
It's sad that you think you know someone from a few posts on a message board.
for Soriano are because he is a beast and not just to make Ax looks like a fool. Im perfectly capable of doing that to Ax by myself.
Only the Yankers have a system where pay means squat. They hand out 14 mil to anyone. They have guys on their team making 12, 14
that no other team would pay 5 mil. Its clear that at least the Yanks, in offering Arod that much money, though he was so much
better than Soriano.......boy they were wrong, Arod hasn't slacked like other big name free agents the Geroge has picked up (unit, Giambi),
but dang with the extra 19 mil he could of bought some more pitching!
..and what is he paying that extra 19 mil for....3 less errors, 18 points better of batting, and a few more homers and rbi's??
of course no one will ever be calling Alf, "Slappy"
JS
And remember, Texas is paying a good chunk of his salary while he's playing for NY....
<< <i>Ax is as knowlegable as anyone here, especially when it comes to the NFL... JS >>
the blind can't lead the blind
go falcons
i sure hope so cuz he nose crap about baseball and golf.
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<< <i>Ax is as knowlegable as anyone here, especially when it comes to the NFL... JS >>
the blind can't lead the blind
go falcons >>
Go Ron Mexico!!!
Are the Falcan'ts ever going to have back to back winning season? You'd think after 30 years just pure dumb luck that would have happened already!
About the only other team that has a shot in the NFC south is Carolina and Vick owns them...
Brian
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About the only other team that has a shot in the NFC south is Carolina and Vick owns them...
Brian >>
And the Bucs own Vick and the Falcons...what's your point?
You mean to tell me that your not the same arrogant punk in real life?
well that is great to know.
ok Ill give you the benifit of the doubt.
I don't know you
I still have my opinion though of you.
SD
<< <i>
You mean to tell me that your not the same arrogant punk in real life?
>>
So essentially anyone who adamantly defends their opinion and disagrees with you is an arrogant punk?
Well *that's* good to know.
your the one that started the disrespectful posts not me.
don't dare lump everyone else that disagree's with me in your class
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About the only other team that has a shot in the NFC south is Carolina and Vick owns them...
Brian >>
And the Bucs own Vick and the Falcons...what's your point? >>
1-1 in 2004, 2003 was vickless, and TB was beastly in 2002
my guess is another split this year... my point is that carolina is the only other team that will contend, and the falcons play them well...
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1-1 in 2004, 2003 was vickless, and TB was beastly in 2002
my guess is another split this year... my point is that carolina is the only other team that will contend, and the falcons play them well... >>
It seems that all 4 teams in that division has one other who owns them.
New Orleans? Jeez I am glad I'm not a fan of theirs, I'd be dead of stress already. They have so much talent, but no desire to actually use it. How their coach isn't in a coroner's van already is beyond me.
Atlanta? All I can say is (and I am sure you know this) hope that Vick doesn't get hurt. We've both seen what happens to that team with no Vick at the helm.
Tampa? On one hand I want to think they will rebound this year, but I think it will be another before they are competitive.
Carolina? I think they will struggle as well.
If Vick is healthy, they are the only team I see capable (this year) of dominating in the division.
the saints will find ways to lose half or more of their games
the bucs are going in the right direction, but still need time
the panthers are tough to figure out - after a horrid start with injuries last year, they get their crap together and get hot only to lose their last game to the aints...
the falcons are incomplete without vick... as a falcons fan i have no shame in saying they'd win probably 1/3 as many games without him. whether they're up 30 or down 30, i'm on the edge of my seat every play just hoping he don't get hurt... if he improves his passing game, the falcons will be tough to beat.
brian
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the falcons are incomplete without vick... as a falcons fan i have no shame in saying they'd win probably 1/3 as many games without him. whether they're up 30 or down 30, i'm on the edge of my seat every play just hoping he don't get hurt... if he improves his passing game, the falcons will be tough to beat.
brian >>
I've long thought that they Falcons would be better off using Vick as RB/WR and letting Schaub (who was schooled in the west coast offense since his college days) at QB.
As exciting as Vick is, I just don't think his talents are best served at QB. He makes plays with the ball in his hands, and that (to me at least) is in direct conflict with a QB's role of getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible.
<< <i> As exciting as Vick is, I just don't think his talents are best served at QB. He makes plays with the ball in his hands, and that (to me at least) is in direct conflict with a QB's role of getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible. >>
In the traditional sense of QB, I agree.
Their style of offense was highly effective last year however. If you look at the falcon's stats, they hit you hard early. Primarily because teams weren't used to seeing it. Once they saw it, and planned accordingly, the Falcons didn't fare as well.
As exhibited numerous times, they can tear teams like the Rams apart on pretty much the hybrid rushing attack alone. But you can't win the SB that way - the passing must improve. Should be one helluva home opener.
Brian
as 3 wins. You squeaked by a few weeks later,but everyone knows we own Vick and this year will be no exception. You willl see the
same brick wall defense, but you will also see a high powered offense. 6-0 in the division is no prob.
I smell fear...Viking fan must be close
JS
<< <i> but you will also see a high powered offense. 6-0 in the division is no prob.
I smell fear...Viking fan must be close
JS >>
Uhm, I am as big a fan of the Bucs as anyone, but where is this high powered offense going to come from?
And saying they'll go undefeated in the division? Just wrong hehe.
The Bucs will struggle to win 9 games this year.