wow i just was wondering about them,because i got one on ebay years ago. i do not know who you think i am. but your wroung please just forget i said anything.by
I love the WI errors... and I think they have a lot going for them:
- SHQ are a very popular series to collect for many people who otherwise might not collect coins at all... for any wishing to advance their efforts, these coins represent fascinating additions.
- The 'error' is dramatic (easily visable to the naked eye) and allegorical (for how it actually changes the design somewhat.)
- The mysteries origins of the 'error' further add to the coin's mystique - the fact that there are two variations really supports the notion that these were intentional clandestine changes.
I do not think that the Speared Buffalo is as exciting... even though it is visible to the naked eye and allegorical, it is just a simple die crack... and outside those series which are collected by die-pairing, I am not aware of any instance where die-cracks have resulted in an 'error-coin' variety designation. Also, the Bison nickel was 1/2 year type coin... on the whole, the Westward Journey Nickel series was two short of a program to command the same public attention enjoyed by the SHQ program, and I question the demand of the 'Speared Bison' variety.
"Bochiman - as usual, you are so full of poppyc* that its funny. As forum bully (acknowledged via PM by several others) - it is obvious that you make things up"
Brings to mind that classic line by John Astin as Gomez Addams, when a neighbor lady asks him "all you alright?" Gomez sez "Well, I used to be a paranoid schizophrenic, but I'm feeling much better today."
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
People will assume you're an alt simply because you brought back a somewhat toxic old thread. Old threads are generally best avoided when they're toxic and even when they aren't unless they are very relevent (as in this case).
My opinion hasn't changed much in only five years. I no longer consider the timing very important which isn't surprising. I recognize the nickel as a little more legitimate than I did then.
I find it interesting that you have only posted to a thread that is 5 years old
My personal theory on the quarters is that they are counterfeit - not mint made at all - I am sure that I will get many disagreers - like from the ANA numistmatist of the year the just 'KNOWS' conclusively how it had to have occurred
The speared bison is interesting in the placement - it goes through the center of the die but does not break the buffalo
I find it close to the arrow through the eagle in the SAC dollar
I find it interesting that you have only posted to a thread that is 5 years old
My personal theory on the quarters is that they are counterfeit - not mint made at all - I am sure that I will get many disagreers - like from the ANA numistmatist of the year the just 'KNOWS' conclusively how it had to have occurred
The speared bison is interesting in the placement - it goes through the center of the die but does not break the buffalo
I find it close to the arrow through the eagle in the SAC dollar
all rather cool varieties >>
The extra leaf quarters all showed up in a normal distribution pattern. If they were counterfeit it would seem someone would had to have hauled them into the mint to mix with real quarters.
I don't have much of an opinion on this topic, modern coins in general have never been a focus of mine...
As for those jumping to the alt conclusion, in IndianJoe's defense, the thread would have been on the first page of results if a new passerby typed "speared bison" into the search bar at the top of the US coin forum, even though it was 5 years old.
Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!
I might buy the argument that they are counterfeits made on US mint equipment at the US Mint. The mint did investigate the production of these and did own up to the high leaf.
hi thank you for your warm welcome speety and cladking yes , it was the only speared bison that show up in my search. I had no ideal , I was opening up a can of worms. and I have no ideal who this littlejohn is? as far as this RYK .I guess he thinks he is god. as he would have to be. to say I am littlejohn ,in my first post. after 6 years. thru type lol no way!!!! I just wanted to know what they though about the coin now.!!! never knew I would be attack like that. anyway let him think what he want to. as I do not care. indianjoe
IndianJoe,welcome to the Forum. IMHO the 2005 D Speared Bison Nickel has retreated in price on Ebay since 2006 when a PCGS MS 65 sold easily for $1,500. This is a neat coin but was greatly overvalued for a die break. The WI Extra Leaf Quarters which I am somewhat biased about and the two coins have been proven by error/variety experts like Rick Snow to be an intentional variety ( both High and Low) by a Denver die shop employee back in late 2004. Many would agree that you need both WI Leaf Quarters to have a complete SQCollection. Prices on these coins are down considerably on Ebay since 2006. IMHO many have been sold repeatly on Ebay due to the crummy national economy. It will take several years, but I think the quarters will be in demand. I wouldn't think the Speared Bisons will ever come roaring back in price. Have a great day collecting coins !!
Let's just say IndianJoe that when I was about 10 years old I was playing roller hockey on East 89 street in Brooklyn when this mean old ornery German Shepard ran up behind me and bit my leg for no darn reason at all.
That German Shepard had a better disposition than her.
Just curious, is the Speared Bison in any of the coin or error books? I think it's an interesting coin, similar to the Wounded Eagle Sac, but the die crack on the buffalo is quite a bit longer than the WE, making it much more dramatic. I do believe this is a mint error - ie. real/not 'possibly' fabricated like the WI quarters. I do think both are interesting coins.
Have there been any 'interesting' error coins found lately? - I have been out of the loop for awhile, and not had time to play with coins.
moonshine i really do not know. i have one of the speared bison nickel.and was just looking them up today. its listed on pcgs price guide. the ms 67 is listed at $5,000 and the ms 66 at $2,600 now what there really selling at i do not know. was just checking on my investment and wanted to see if the people attitude had change on them. as i see now thay have not. i have some coins , but it not really my thing. i am more into indian artifacts indianjoe
It's not an "S", but it looks good next to my Speared Bison. This Bison must have seen the other one get it in the back and had an accident! I don't need to tell you what I call this one, do I?
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i just was wondering about them,because i got one on ebay years ago.
i do not know who you think i am.
but your wroung
please just forget i said anything.by
I believe the original discussion was comparing the Wisconsin extra leaf to the speared bison and not slamming one another.
i have not slam anyone
and i am sorry i even post here.
- SHQ are a very popular series to collect for many people who otherwise might not collect coins at all... for any wishing to advance their efforts, these coins represent fascinating additions.
- The 'error' is dramatic (easily visable to the naked eye) and allegorical (for how it actually changes the design somewhat.)
- The mysteries origins of the 'error' further add to the coin's mystique - the fact that there are two variations really supports the notion that these were intentional clandestine changes.
I do not think that the Speared Buffalo is as exciting... even though it is visible to the naked eye and allegorical, it is just a simple die crack... and outside those series which are collected by die-pairing, I am not aware of any instance where die-cracks have resulted in an 'error-coin' variety designation. Also, the Bison nickel was 1/2 year type coin... on the whole, the Westward Journey Nickel series was two short of a program to command the same public attention enjoyed by the SHQ program, and I question the demand of the 'Speared Bison' variety.
>>>My Collection
Brings to mind that classic line by John Astin as Gomez Addams, when a neighbor lady asks him "all you alright?" Gomez sez "Well, I used to be a paranoid schizophrenic, but I'm feeling much better today."
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
People will assume you're an alt simply because you brought back a somewhat
toxic old thread. Old threads are generally best avoided when they're toxic and
even when they aren't unless they are very relevent (as in this case).
My opinion hasn't changed much in only five years. I no longer consider the
timing very important which isn't surprising. I recognize the nickel as a little more
legitimate than I did then.
I find it interesting that you have only posted to a thread that is 5 years old
My personal theory on the quarters is that they are counterfeit - not mint made at all -
I am sure that I will get many disagreers - like from the ANA numistmatist of the year the just 'KNOWS' conclusively how it had to have occurred
The speared bison is interesting in the placement - it goes through the center of the die but does not break the buffalo
I find it close to the arrow through the eagle in the SAC dollar
all rather cool varieties
<< <i>welcome to the boards Little Joe
I find it interesting that you have only posted to a thread that is 5 years old
My personal theory on the quarters is that they are counterfeit - not mint made at all -
I am sure that I will get many disagreers - like from the ANA numistmatist of the year the just 'KNOWS' conclusively how it had to have occurred
The speared bison is interesting in the placement - it goes through the center of the die but does not break the buffalo
I find it close to the arrow through the eagle in the SAC dollar
all rather cool varieties >>
The extra leaf quarters all showed up in a normal distribution pattern. If they
were counterfeit it would seem someone would had to have hauled them into
the mint to mix with real quarters.
You are right, I do know, conclusively how they were made.
I don't have much of an opinion on this topic, modern coins in general have never been a focus of mine...
As for those jumping to the alt conclusion, in IndianJoe's defense, the thread would have been on the first page of results if a new passerby typed "speared bison" into the search bar at the top of the US coin forum, even though it was 5 years old.
<< <i>I am sure that I will get many disagreers - like from the ANA numistmatist of the year the just 'KNOWS' conclusively how it had to have occurred
You are right, I do know, conclusively how they were made. >>
I might buy the argument that they are counterfeits made
on US mint equipment at the US Mint. The mint did investigate
the production of these and did own up to the high leaf.
thank you for your warm welcome speety and cladking
yes , it was the only speared bison that show up in my search.
I had no ideal , I was opening up a can of worms.
and I have no ideal who this littlejohn is?
as far as this RYK .I guess he thinks he is god. as he would have to be.
to say I am littlejohn ,in my first post.
after 6 years. thru type lol no way!!!!
I just wanted to know what they though about the coin now.!!!
never knew I would be attack like that.
anyway let him think what he want to. as I do not care.
indianjoe
Oh please God...
Do no let her appear.
@...so far L@@K...!!!
Maybe I should call every newspaper and magazine in the United States ...
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<< <i>Oh please God
Oh please God...
Do no let her appear. >>
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love your new token
IMHO the 2005 D Speared Bison Nickel has retreated in price on Ebay since 2006 when a PCGS MS 65 sold easily for $1,500. This is a neat coin but was greatly overvalued for a die break. The WI Extra Leaf Quarters which I am somewhat biased about and the two coins have been proven by error/variety experts like Rick Snow to be an intentional variety ( both High and Low) by a Denver die shop employee back in late 2004. Many would agree that you need both WI Leaf Quarters to have a complete SQCollection. Prices on these coins are down considerably on Ebay since 2006. IMHO many have been sold repeatly on Ebay due to the crummy national economy. It will take several years, but I think the quarters will be in demand. I wouldn't think the Speared Bisons will ever come roaring back in price. Have a great day collecting coins !!
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<< <i>Oh please God
Oh please God...
Do no let her appear. >>
who??? >>
Let's just say IndianJoe that when I was about 10 years old I was playing roller hockey on East 89 street in Brooklyn when this mean old ornery German Shepard ran up behind me and bit my leg for no darn reason at all.
That German Shepard had a better disposition than her.
Have there been any 'interesting' error coins found lately? - I have been out of the loop for awhile, and not had time to play with coins.
lol to funny
i really do not know.
i have one of the speared bison nickel.and was just looking them up today.
its listed on pcgs price guide.
the ms 67 is listed at $5,000
and the ms 66 at $2,600
now what there really selling at i do not know.
was just checking on my investment
and wanted to see if the people attitude had change on them.
as i see now thay have not.
i have some coins , but it not really my thing.
i am more into indian artifacts
indianjoe
them nickels had more errors then "Carters got pills"
Buffalo nickel errors? The only error was me buying two bags of these friggin things.
EAC 6024
I also have a bunch of nickels I need to get rid of.