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If this 1904 S Morgan doesn't grade VF...I got stiffed

wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
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What do you think ?
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Wayne
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  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭
    It could go F-15 but I could also see the services going VF20.
  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    Possibly F12. Tough to make VF20. You need a lot of luck if you choose PCGS or ANACS.
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15/F20... could go either way. Best of luck.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • PrethenPrethen Posts: 3,461 ✭✭✭
    What did you pay?
  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    I don't see much difference if it goes F-15 or VF-20, so why stiffed? The value at these levels is in whether it's nice and original, or eye appealing. BTW, quick tip---if the wings on the eagle still have definition you can say VF (I don't see reverse image).
    morgannut2
  • 1907Quarter1907Quarter Posts: 2,770
    I''m looking at the ANA grading book and it's telling me f12...
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  • morgannut2morgannut2 Posts: 4,293 ✭
    Now I do, Rev. looks VF-25 with a weak obverse strike---what's the worry? I think it's a very nice example and a hard date!
    morgannut2
  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685 ✭
    Coin shop dealer had it graded VF-20 and priced $80. That's coin values price for a 20. Couldn't find much of anything wrong with the coin and I liked it. So I gave it a home.
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    Wayne
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  • KoolCoinKoolCoin Posts: 158 ✭
    According to Q. David Bowers, "Most 1904-S dollars are lightly struck, especially at the center of the obverse."

    I think your coin has good eye appeal and should go vf20. At $80 you can't go wrong.

    KoolCoin George
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Yes and no. The coin may not technically grade VF, but it's not unheard of to pay VF money for a nice, problem-free F-15 coin with terrific eye appeal for the grade. Of course this coin's book value doubles from F-12 to VF-20, but still...whether or not this is worth VF money I'm not sure, but it certainly does look like it's worth a premium over the typical Fine '04-S Morgan.
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This may not be a valid comparison, but I thought this coin would grade F15. It only made ANACS F12. Your coin shows more detail and I would think grades at least F15 with a shot at 20

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  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    I think your coin is right in there @ VF20 with either PCGS or NGC. I love it. It has just the look I go for.

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  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    I think it will go vf20..... that is one nice looking circulated 04-s.
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,684 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF20 in my book. Nice dollar....

    Dave
    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,775 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it will make a vf-20 at any service.
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,816 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the original look of the coin... for this date, that is worth something. Is it a VF20? It could be, but it really doesn't matter if it is housed in an Album and offers those that look it enjoyment.

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • numonebuyernumonebuyer Posts: 2,136 ✭
    I took a hard look at a few of my PCGS F-15s. It is slightly better than my F-15s. Additionally, the coin is nice looking. I think it will go VF-20.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like you did OK to me vf20 tops but nice IMO. image
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  • jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508 ✭
    You got stiffed©®

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    Looks like it could go VF on a good day!
    Jeff

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  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    If you're lucky it might go VF, but I would grade it F15.

    P.S. That 1889-CC is exactly a F12.
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    To be correct it's...



    << <i>If this 1904 S Morgan doesn't grade VF...I got stiffed™ >>
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    F15 at best.
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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    ~Wayne
  • coinlover726coinlover726 Posts: 90
    I grade the 04-S VF 25
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,814 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It could go F-15 but I could also see the services going VF20. >>

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  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    technically that coin is a lock VF20 at pcgs. However, as the coin appears washed they may bump it down to F15.
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
    VF-20 all day long.

    Compare with this one:

    Ex-PCGS grader VF-20

    Joe.

    PS. The VF-20 on the linked coin was verified by a devil of a member that was recently bammed. image

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