My newest purchase 1860 Seated Dollar MS64

partagas

1860 Seated Liberty in old green 64 holder. Very prooflike, wish I was a better photographer.

try again ughh

obverse obv 1860

now the reverse

rev 1860

partagas

reverse hopefully

mgoodm3

They're huge. Might want to resize them them down to a usable size.

partagas

Thanks for the tip, I got it now.

kryptonitecomics

Sweet coin

mgoodm3

Pretty coin.

Garneteye

tradedollarnut

Extremely nice reverse for a no motto dollar!

morgannut2

What the heck does it take to get a 65 out of PCGS??? Surprising the coin hasn't visited NCS for a little toning touch up and a 65 upgrade!!

partagas

I just bought the coin from a long time friend and dealer. The coin came from a old collector/client of his. Sold his entire collection of coins.

I have thought about the upgrade, as I did pay pq dollars for it. But it will just sit in my collection anyway.

But as far as sending it to NCS, I don't think so. The reason I liked it so much was because it wasn't messed with.

As far as marks on the coin. There is hit on the cheek of liberty. Lengthwise from the nose to the chin. Has a couple tiny tics in the obverse left field.

The reverse has one hit only thats abouve the eagles beak. Coin is so prooflike, I would swear its a proof. Added photos showing proofness qualityobv

Thanks for all the complements
rev

anoldgoat

Thanks for all the complements

Thanks for the pics, nice.

tradedollarnut

That's an extremely nice looking coin by the pics. One possibility for the lack of a gem grade is the slight discoloration on Liberty's thigh. Another could be hairlines, which won't show in the pics.... but it's certainly devoid of bagmarks enough for gem!

coinkat

very attractive coin...

CarlWohlforth

Great coin! I don't think it is proof, there are many PL seated coins. The discoloration on the leg drew my eye also. I think this is a marvelous coin and I would never send it to NCS. It is a 64+ in my book.

etexmike

A great coin just as it sits.

Congrats.

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etexmike

tradedollarnut

If you send it to NCS, it will become just another washed out white widget with no character whatsoever. Please don't!

elwood

it's in a green holder, might upgrade as is

clw54

64, 65, it's still the same coin.

topstuf

Get it to NGC. I screwed myself on one of mine. Sold PCGS ...green.... 64 which is NOW in an NGC 66 holder. Also prooflike and very minor flaws.

Biggest coin mistake I ever made.

Try it.

NumisOxide

That's a beauty. Looks 65.

itsnotjustme

Super coin... has a PL look as you said.

elwood

<< <i>64, 65, it's still the same coin. >>


Yes, it's still the same coin but one is worth $5K and the other is worth $11K

partagas

Thank you all for you kind comments, and critiques. I am glad many see the pq appearance that I thought was there as well.

tradedollarnut

Yes, it's still the same coin but one is worth $5K and the other is worth $11K

Those numbers are soooo out of date. I'd pay $40,000 for a nice looking PCGS MS65. A decent NGC MS65 would sell for at least $20,000.

As a PQ MS64, your coin is worth at least $8,000.

mdwoods

Very nice coin. Especially the reverse.

oreville

You coin looks 63/64 obverse and 65/66 reverse.

I like it in the 64 holder. Keep it where it is. The obverse still counts for more than 50% of the grade.

When you are ready to sell those green insert holders will not so subtly add to the siginificance of the quality of the coin!

Once you cross that coin, you lose the allure of the green insert which is a growing allure.

elwood

<< <i>Those numbers are soooo out of date. I'd pay $40,000 for a nice looking PCGS MS65. >>


My mistake I looked at Proof prices not MS pricing. Although I was just using the numbers to make a point.

Vet

I love it

Elcontador

You have an exceptionally clean no motto Seated $. Typically the open field above the eagle looks like the shark in Jaws bit it at least once. I have a 59 O in PC 3 and the contact marks in that area are why it is in a 3 holder.

The only thing I see on the reverse is what appears to be a lint mark below the olive branch above the E in ONE. Agree w TDN re the pricing, and yes, as Oreville wrote, people are paying premiums for scarce coins in older PC holders.

I assume the darker area on Miss Liberty's leg is a toning spot. PCGS is very tough on Seated $s. You're going to have a very hard time trying to get an upgrade here. I've actually seen some stunning Seated $s in person that PCGS would not put into 5 holders. Keep in mind that if you try an upgrade, the coin will come out of its present (old) holder; you have some risk of loss by sending it in for an upgrade at PCGS (ie, your coin is worth less in a new holder if it comes back in the same grade).

partagas

As far as cracking this out, not going to happen. I have been searching for Seated dollar like this for sometime. All I have found in MS is washed out white or coins that had unattractive toning. This lady isn't leaving my hands for a long time, or this holder.

"Lint Mark" What you see on the reverse below the eagle is a scratch on the holder. The reverse is a solid 65 in my opinion. Albeit, I am by far no expert at grading. Has two horizontal tics above the beak. These aren't readily noticeable with the naked eye. They can be seen when you angle the coin.

The obverse is a 64 maybe a 65 with todays standards. Has three tiny tics on the eagles left side in the field. The only noticeable hits on the obverse are unfortunatly on the cheek ( scarface) a hit that runs from the nose to the chin lengthwise. Hard to see until angled but its there. Then on the date 0 has two contact marks. (bottom left and middle right)

I call it a pq 64 because the reverse is stellar and eye appeal "very prooflike surface".