Something a little different from the McCabe/Clapp/Eliasberg Collection- Who says there aren't some
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This may not be considered registry material but is even better in my view. I got this fantasy piece for $3,220. It sold in the Eliasberg sale for $4,400 in 1996.
Here is the information from the ANR Numismatic Rarities The Drew St. John Sale.
"1792" (i.e. 1860-1870) "trial cent" fantasy. Judd Appendix A, Pollock-6001, Breen-1378. MS-64 RB (NGC)."
The finest example of this fascinating 19th century concoction we have seen, pedigreed to 1905. Choice lustrous light brown with abundant mint red framing all legends and devices and encircling the greater portion of the peripheries. Well struck and attractive, natural planchet striations at base of reverse, tiny areas of corrosion noted just inside the rim at 6:00 on the obverse and above ES of STATES on the reverse. Interestingly, when the Chapman's catalogued this precise piece in 1905, they noted that it was struck about 1870, while most current speculation places it about a decade earlier, closer to the 1859 publication of Dr. Dickeson's magnum opus, the American Numismatical Manual. Of course, though Dickeson's career as an adventurer, student of Native American artifacts, showman and promoter are well-documented, there is no great paper trail surrounding this unusual numismatic production. Most assume today that the heavily rusted eagle motif was produced to emboss revenue-stamped fiscal paper sometime before 1817, but Dickeson thought it probable that it was produced as a 1792 pattern cent, thus his creation of this interesting piece. Fewer than two dozen examples are generally thought to exist (uspatterns.com suggests only a dozen known), though we can remember no finer specimen than the piece offered here.
From S.H. and Henry Chapman's sale of the J.F. McCabe Collection, June 1905, Lot 68; John M. Clapp to John H. Clapp; Clapp Estate to Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. in 1942; Bowers and Merena's sale of the Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, May 1996, Lot 111 (at $4,400).
Here is the information from the ANR Numismatic Rarities The Drew St. John Sale.
"1792" (i.e. 1860-1870) "trial cent" fantasy. Judd Appendix A, Pollock-6001, Breen-1378. MS-64 RB (NGC)."
The finest example of this fascinating 19th century concoction we have seen, pedigreed to 1905. Choice lustrous light brown with abundant mint red framing all legends and devices and encircling the greater portion of the peripheries. Well struck and attractive, natural planchet striations at base of reverse, tiny areas of corrosion noted just inside the rim at 6:00 on the obverse and above ES of STATES on the reverse. Interestingly, when the Chapman's catalogued this precise piece in 1905, they noted that it was struck about 1870, while most current speculation places it about a decade earlier, closer to the 1859 publication of Dr. Dickeson's magnum opus, the American Numismatical Manual. Of course, though Dickeson's career as an adventurer, student of Native American artifacts, showman and promoter are well-documented, there is no great paper trail surrounding this unusual numismatic production. Most assume today that the heavily rusted eagle motif was produced to emboss revenue-stamped fiscal paper sometime before 1817, but Dickeson thought it probable that it was produced as a 1792 pattern cent, thus his creation of this interesting piece. Fewer than two dozen examples are generally thought to exist (uspatterns.com suggests only a dozen known), though we can remember no finer specimen than the piece offered here.
From S.H. and Henry Chapman's sale of the J.F. McCabe Collection, June 1905, Lot 68; John M. Clapp to John H. Clapp; Clapp Estate to Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. in 1942; Bowers and Merena's sale of the Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. Collection, May 1996, Lot 111 (at $4,400).
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I wonder why most "experts" think it come from the 1800s when it is dated?
The way everything is worded, makes me think of a european country that made that.
If it only said "Trial Piece. Designed for the United States Mint" that would probably confirm it?
Also, a die crack. how strange is that? How many did you say exist? After minting a handful
the die cracks and they keep going?
such a mystery.
It appears, with this coin, my guess is as good as anyone else's.
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Capped Bust Half Series
Capped Bust Half Dime Series
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And once that auction price is established, you can't really go too wrong paying 25% less nearly a decade later.
A great looking piece!
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That's really cool! Thanks for bringing it back for us newbies.
Read and enjoy
I still have this wonderful piece!
Please update the picture!
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Here's an MS-63 example that sold in 2016.
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-2LT50/1792-1850s-dickeson-restrike-pattern-cent-judd-c1792-1-pollock-6001-copper-plain-edge-rarity-6-to-7-ms-63-bn-ngc
Go Tribe!
Photo has been restored. Oh why does PCGS have to keep changing their programming?
I really want a bust half dollar from Clapp’s collection. Does anyone have an online reference for his collection? Or current holders bearing that provenance?
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Alan V. Weinberg's specimen in PCGS MS 64 RB sold for $5,040.00 in 2019:
JA would not sticker this on behalf of CAC a few years back due to the verdigris spot above the ES of STATES. I retorted to him if he looked that good after 170 years then he would be proud to sticker himself! LOL.