1806 Half...$1800+

dwsblue

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This coin looks great, but is the price out of line?

raycyca

VERY beautiful/original early bust half. I bet someday that coin will be in an AU holder. I think it's worth it. Makes the XF 40 I HAD look like a VF 30-35. If I wasn't involved right now, I'd buy it. Just my 50 cents. Ray

TomB

In my opinion, if the Overton attribution is correct and the scan is accurate then that coin is a dipped-out dog that went wildly over its worth.

stman

Gotta agree with TomB. As I do most of the time.

michael

someone thinks au?? possibly something else??

i grade this coin just from the scan $1200

Wisconsin

It sure has the look of a cleaned coin to me.

Bear

I would listen to Tom, he knows of what he speaks.

Elcontador

The coin looks like it was cleaned and net graded. You see lots of slabbed Bust $s like this half.

Gemini

I have never submitted any coins yet to PGS for grading. If this coin was harshly cleaned wouldn't they make note of this on the holder or is mention of harsh cleaning waived on these older coins and they just net grading it?... The coin has a pretty decent strike and doesn't look all they bad to me and I couldn't really couldn't call it a dipped out dog at least at my take from the image. Most of these early pieces have been cleaned to some degree after two hundred years of being handled by non collectors and if the cleaning is overly obvious to some it really doesn't look all that bad to me and I have seen worst.

Steve27

" If this coin was harshly cleaned wouldn't they make note of this on the holder or is mention of harsh cleaning waived on these older coins and they just net grading it?"

PCGS claims that they do NOT slab cleaned coins, and they also claim that they do not net grade. Looking at this coin, it appears that they do both.

PerryHall

Show me where PCGS says that they do not slab cleaned coins. They do not slab HARSHLY cleaned coins.

tmot99

<< <i>PCGS claims that they do NOT slab cleaned coins, and they also claim that they do not net grade. Looking at this coin, it appears that they do both. >>

ziggy29

<< <i>PCGS claims that they do NOT slab cleaned coins, and they also claim that they do not net grade. Looking at this coin, it appears that they do both. >>

Draped bust and flowing hair coinage, no matter what the stated policies of even the most respected TPGs actually say, get a LOT of leeway that other coins don't get when it comes to being slabbed with some problems that would bodybag other coins.

Nysoto

This coin was either dipped, or placed in a hermetically sealed inert container in about 1808, and stored in a temperature and humidity controlled environment since that time .

The strike is incredible on this very early O.116, especially on the reverse with the fresh die, note the wing and breast feather detail. I cannot see the rev die crack, possibly making it O.116' (O.116 prime), only one confirmed example of O.116' from Downey MB26, but others are probably out there.

With the description of luster only in recessed areas, the PCGS grade of XF45 looks right. Dipped coins with a strong strike can be looked at by some as undergraded, as the early bids are showing. Unless there is no alternative, I would not want an 1806 this bright as it was tampered with from the dipping and looks unnatural. Lots of O.116's to choose from.

dwsblue

Thanks for the feedback.