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Should I neg this seller, opinions needed.

KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329
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I bid on and won this auction. I received the coin and it looks to be a dipped and stripped coin in a pcgs holder. After a few emails the seller tells me to quit wasting his time, he does not take returns (I knew this before bidding but his description won me over). Does the coin look dipped to you? Should I neg him?

My pics of the coin, its in a ms-65 ogh.

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  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    Is it in PCGS plastic? If so, send it to PCGS under the grading guarentee.

    And no, you definately should not neg him.
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  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329
    It is in a pcgs holder.
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
    Absolutely not!

    After a few emails the seller tells me to quit wasting his time

    I agree. Stop wasting his time. image

    Joe.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agreed....if you buy in the PCGS holder (or NGC), and you don't agree with the grade, take it up with them.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>he does not take returns (I knew this before bidding but his description won me over). >>



    If you knew before bidding that he didn't accept returns, there is no justification for negative feedback.

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  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    Neg him for what? image
  • zeus135zeus135 Posts: 1,043 ✭
    I don't see any way you can neg him. You are not objecting to anything mentioned in his auction.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Apparently the seller is not running an approval service.

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  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    Yes, neg him

    image Seller delivered coin shown and I read his no return policy, but now I want to return it and he won't let me.


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  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329


    << <i>Neg him for what? image >>



    For sending me a coin that didn't match his auction description, he called it a beautiful red toned Morgan, not, it has very little luster and it is unattractive.

    Wally
  • UncleJoeUncleJoe Posts: 2,551 ✭✭✭
    Does the coin look like the pics in the auction?

    Joe.
  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    By your pictures they sure look the same, just different lighting.
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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    So you think he should be the expert and regrade the PCGS grade? Man I'd stay off Ebay, take it up with PGCS and I hope you know more than them.image That's why most people have a neg or two that I ingnore.
  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329


    << <i>Does the coin look like the pics in the auction?

    Joe. >>



    Not even close, that classic Morgan cartwheel luster is mostly gone.

    Wally
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    That coin is very original and has never been dipped. What would justify leaving the seller a negative? You got what was shown in the auction, and you saw the no return policy.

    As a coincidence, this is the seller I got the beautiful toned 1886 VAM 1A1 from, and the coin looked better than his image.

    If you don't like the coin, I'll be happy to take it off your hands for the $220 you paid. PM me if you want to get rid of it.
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    Just because you have buyer's remorse doesn't mean that the seller did anything wrong. You bought, he delivered. Positive Feedback.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭
    image The color of the green label is correct, but I was buying a red coin like the one in my picture.


    Actually you could probably dip it and resubmit it and get a 66 image
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  • TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭
    NO NEG, but does he have a return policy?

    TorinoCobra71

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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    I don't think it's fair to rip on Kennewickman unless his picture just sucks because I don't think it looks much like the one listed. Although I wouldn't neg the guy since you bid on a coin without a return policy (you took the risk), but if you're not happy I wouldn't leave any feedback and avoid him in the future, plus you've already got an offer for it.
  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329


    << <i>NO NEG, but does he have a return policy?

    TorinoCobra71 >>



    Not in his ebay ad, I emailed him asking about his return policy.

    Thanks everybody for your opinions. I am going to leave him a positive feedback.

    Wally
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kennewickman

    You've had an offer to sell it and this will get you out of your conundrum.image
    Have a nice day
  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wally do not even pay any attention to some of these clowns. Its plain not worth the frustration. Use your better common sense and then carry on.

    Hey check the other thread that a joker started. The spirt of the thread SUCKS.......image

    Ken
  • coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does the coin look dipped to you? Should I neg him? >>

    No and no.image
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    Two things:

    1) A neg should be used to warn other buyers about some level of rip-off

    2) Never take a neutral to a negative fight

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭
    Ken, who are you calling "clowns"?
  • RADRAD Posts: 287
    Your pictures are not ideal, but it does not looked dipped to me...actually from the photo appears pretty original. And no, I would not give a negative feedback; you may not be happy with the coin on the basis of personal preference, but as I read it the seller did nothing wrong.
    RAD
  • LouisCampLouisCamp Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    If you don't like it, copy his pictures and sell it again on ebay.

    No negs deserved.

    Lou
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  • Gator5220Gator5220 Posts: 1,194


    << <i>

    << <i>NO NEG, but does he have a return policy?

    TorinoCobra71 >>



    Not in his ebay ad, I emailed him asking about his return policy.

    Thanks everybody for your opinions. I am going to leave him a positive feedback.

    Wally >>



    I'm confused. Are you saying the listing did not outline his return policy?

    You said you e-mailed him asking about the return policy. Was it before or after you purchased the coin?
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  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ken, who are you calling "clowns"? >>



    Whats the matter with clowns. For the most part they are happy go lucky people and serve up a relaxing atmosphere....image

    Actually my post should have went in another thread but Wally was here so it was posted.

    So Very Sorry Eric....image Nope I still will not clash with you yet or again.

    Cheers.

    Ken
  • DanegeldDanegeld Posts: 1,497
    It looks like it to me
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  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>NO NEG, but does he have a return policy?

    TorinoCobra71 >>



    Not in his ebay ad, I emailed him asking about his return policy.

    Thanks everybody for your opinions. I am going to leave him a positive feedback.

    Wally >>



    I'm confused. Are you saying the listing did not outline his return policy?

    You said you e-mailed him asking about the return policy. Was it before or after you purchased the coin? >>



    The listing did not outline his return policy. I emailed and asked before I purchased the coin.
  • dizzyfoxxdizzyfoxx Posts: 9,823 ✭✭✭
    A. It's slabbed by PCGS

    B. You knew going into the auction there are no returns

    C. No, I do not think this seller deserves a negative feedback. Perhaps a neutral feedback comment for not being as accomodating as maybe he should have been.

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  • geb209geb209 Posts: 375
    If the coin is not accurately described, the seller is entitled to negative feedback regardless of a return policy, the coin is in a pcgs holder, etc.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭
    Isn't it bliss?
    Don't you approve?
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    One who can't move.
    Where are the clowns?
    Send in the clowns.
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    Don't you love farce?
    My fault I fear.
    I thought that you'd want what I want.
    Sorry, my dear.
    But where are the clowns?
    Quick, send in the clowns.
    Don't bother, they're here.
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  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭


    << <i>Perhaps a neutral feedback comment for not being as accomodating as maybe he should have been. >>

    -Can you provide your ebay handle please. That's a blockable comment.
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  • KurtHornKurtHorn Posts: 1,382 ✭
    I think you did good posting the question on the forum before just doing a neg. Negative feedback is pretty serious stuff and I believe after you got the earlier advice here you understand that.

    I think you did pretty well, and the coin does not looked dipped to me. What I have found sometimes in these OGH holders is that some of the coins over a period of time begin to tone. I think it was in the paper they used, or maybe just that they didn't seal as well. Anyway, sometimes the lustre can look subdued because of being in the early stages of toning, maybe that's what you see.

    Anyway, if you don't like the coin, you can sell it to Eric (K6AZ). He has one of the best eyes for Morgans here, if he likes it, its a coin worth standing up and saluting to.
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  • MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    The seller did nothing to even consider giving him a negative. If return policies are so important to you, then why did you bid??? Give the seller a positive, keep the coin, or sell it to Eric.......
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
  • KennewickmanKennewickman Posts: 329
    I sold the coin, left the seller a positive feedback, and I'am sure we will see some new pics of the coin next week.

    Wally
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a classic example where two people had totally different views as to what the color of "red" was described and expected and for the word "beautiful". lol
    The color of red is RED folks and not a russet orange color or whatever the buyer got. And the use of the term "beautiful" can be assumed to have original luster accompanying the superlative.
    Just what the heck would you expect...........a BEAUTIFUL RED COIN! But instead, the guy received something inferior to what was described. And the guy most likely paid good money for a BEAUTIFUL RED COIN and he didn't get that.
    You should be able to return the coin inspite of the fact there was no return policy. If you know how to reason with the seller in a professional manner otherwise you're SOL.

    Leo

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  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295 ✭


    << <i>I sold the coin, left the seller a positive feedback, and I'am sure we will see some new pics of the coin next week.

    Wally >>



    You can bet on that! image
  • YousriYousri Posts: 477


    << <i>

    << <i>I sold the coin, left the seller a positive feedback, and I'am sure we will see some new pics of the coin next week.

    Wally >>



    You can bet on that! image >>



    Me tooimage
  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭


    << <i>image The color of the green label is correct, but I was buying a red coin like the one in my picture.


    Actually you could probably dip it and resubmit it and get a 66 image >>



    Might be right -- strong strike and surfaces look pretty clean on that coin.
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    neg him!!!!!!!!!

    i mean jeez !....after all somebody is making brand new 1903 silver dollars....aren't they?

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