Home U.S. Coin Forum

Toning: Which colors help? Which colors hurt?

Would you buy an MS68 coin that had brown, splotchy toning? I'd much rather see blue, green and red toning lightly covering the coin.

Which colors do you think help a coin the most in terms of grade? Which colors hurt it? Do you have any coins to show that illustrate your point?

Dan

Comments

  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I'm not a big fan of splotchy.
    coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section
  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140
    Brown - Grey - Black - Mottled to me are bad

    Blues, greens, reds, yellows, golds, magenta, violet - now that's purdy! image
  • XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭


    << <i>Brown - Grey - Black - Mottled to me are bad

    Blues, greens, reds, yellows, golds, magenta, violet - now that's purdy! image >>








    image
  • gemtone65gemtone65 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭
    Some grading services will dip unattractively toned coins for you and reholder them with their original grades. The spotchy brown surface you mention definitely sounds unattractive.

    Along with brown, grey and of course black toned coins will fetch less than typical white coins at the same grade. On the other side of the ledger, probably emerald green is the holy grail for toned coin collectors. Combine that with a touch of red and yellow and you have the potential for a monster coin. A signifcicant amount of vibrant blue is also available occasionally, but rarely with these other colors.
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> Would you buy an MS68 coin that had brown, splotchy toning? >>


    Would the services grade such a coin MS68? Seems contradictory.
    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    Now these are pretty colors on a PCGS MS65 Morgan I own.
    image
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭
    I like BLUE....

    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    imageimage
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Now these are pretty colors on a PCGS MS65 Morgan I own.
    image >>





    image That is the MOST attractive type of toning on a Morgan.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yellows are often a sign of recent dipping.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭
    Green is the killer color...image
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
    rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If a graded coin which has brown, splotchy toning is in a slab reading MS 68, sight unseen, to me it's probably an overgraded coin.

    Champagne colored toning is commonly seen on Morgans and Liberty Nickels; the effect seems to be neutral. The darker toning which subdues a coin's always hurts its grade.

    A light blue seems to make nickels and silver look more attractive (to me). Purple on silver is usually a sign that the coin has been played with.

    Also, the color is only part of the equation. The color flow also is important. One color gradually flowing into another color makes the coin look more attractive. Abrupt color changes have the opposite effect.
    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,118 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I like BLUE.... >>



    I like blue, too. Especially yours!
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • K6AZK6AZ Posts: 9,295
    image
    image
    image


  • << <i>Would you buy an MS68 coin that had brown, splotchy toning? I'd much rather see blue, green and red toning lightly covering the coin.

    Which colors do you think help a coin the most in terms of grade? Which colors hurt it? Do you have any coins to show that illustrate your point?

    Dan >>



    I think an MS68 with brown splotchy toning has been dipped and turned ugly in the holder. I wouldn't buy it.



  • Great thread. There is good toning and there is bad toning, often it is in the eye of the beholder. I think most have agreed that dark, drab, "splotchy" toning is bad.
  • ccrccr Posts: 2,446
    Here is one of my favorite toners that I have. image

    imageimage

    imageimage
  • I like green, gold, and red.


    imageimage
    image

    image
  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140
    My current favorite Morgan image

    image
  • I like golden.
  • Now these are pretty colors on a PCGS MS65 Morgan I own

    Oooooooo.....NICE one
  • Golden

    image
    Michael
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,471 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Drazius......you took MY iconimage
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • TrooperTrooper Posts: 1,450
    Some of the worst colors can also be attractive in their own way. I think it all depends on the pattern.
    Here is a GSA Morgan. that I own that has really nasty colors but the way they are on the coin, to me makes it unique.
    For some reason I think zebra when ever I look at this coin.
    But beauty is always in the eye of the beholder...
    Tom
    (been busy now I hope I'm back)
  • I might be weird but those bright colors never appealed to me, just doesnt look natural. I like the brown, grey natural toning. It just makes the coin seem "older" I guess. Dont ask me why I feel that way, because I dont even know!! lol

    Here is my favorite of the ones I own. Does anyone know anything about a 1879 Double Die?? Because this peice has doubling in all the aspects of the reverse. Thanks.......oh, and I do like a couple of those Morgans..........just makes my stomach qweezy though (like oooooooooo what happened to this one?)

    image
    image
    Joshua P. Merchant
    image

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file