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An "uncirculated" 1795 flowing hair dollar in China largest auction house website

jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
Just take a look this one 1795 3 leaves dollar.
Could this be a real one image
US$1500 for a BU 1795 dollar is cheap image
an SLQ and Ike dollars lover

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  • The coin looks right. Could be one heck of a buy.
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  • 7summits7summits Posts: 316 ✭✭
    ??? Uncirculated ???

    Did you read this at the bottom of the listing? - "American Silver Coin, 1795, extremely precious, XF-AU"

    Here's a version partly in English:

    Link

    "not with a 10 foot pole"
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks killer. Wish I were there.....assuming it's real and for sale.

    roadrunner
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Very convincing looking B-5 BB-27 variety. BUT, it's raw and from China, who wants to take a chance.
    Doesn't look like a cast counterfeit, but could very well be a high quality die transfer fake.
  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    There are also some 1804 dollars with such quality image
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Any other thoughts?image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Any other thoughts?image >>







    Yes,

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    Ok?
  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Good thought, Tom.image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good thought, Tom.image >>








    I mean, how serious could anyone take such a thing?

    Its pretty funny

    Tomimage
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Other thougts? Yeah, wish they had located a hoard of 1794's so I could afford one to complete my registry early dollar set by years.
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt for the morning crew
  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭
    It looks like an original cast dollar to me. Who wouldnt want one of these??? You can put it next to your nice chinese Trade dollar in your set.
    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,529 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Any other thoughts?image >>



    Who says if you win the bid that you will receive THAT COIN if it is real? It would not be the first time that somebody sold a coin on eBay with a “generic” photo. I'm not big on these international transactions where the legal remedies are nebulous to say the least.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    This is not an ebay seller. The auction house did about US$100M dollar auction a year. I believe if you win and you pay, you will get the coin. Whether the coin is a real one or not, it is a different story image
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    Coin sold for $30,600 including Buyers Premium.
    Tim Puro
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like someone thought it was real...and one heck of an XF/AU.

    Sotheby's graded the same way back in the 1980's. I recall going to only one auction there for a half dime collection. I bought one lot of combined coins where they were called from VF to EF...and all were choice to near gem. I paid through the nose for those XF's!
    I also bought an 1850-0 that was a single lot to my recollection. That too was called XF but CHOICE. I'll say. It slabbed out NGC65 back in 1988. I like the English grading system but not the prices they bring!

    roadrunner
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  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    I was one of the under bidders on this coin. I guessing someone must have representatives in Beijing that saw the coin in person.

    Hopefully we'll see the coin come up for sale so that we can know the actual grade of the coin. Knowing my luck, it will be an MS65!
    Tim Puro
    Puro's Coins and Jewelry
    Rutland, VT

    (802)773-3883

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the photos I'd say the coin was a 63 or better. The strike is exceptional too. It would be nice to see it show up again.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    I thought it had a definite chance at being uncirculated, but I bid on it with a worst case AU58 details cleaned price level.

    Would have loved to see it in person.
    Tim Puro
    Puro's Coins and Jewelry
    Rutland, VT

    (802)773-3883

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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    As someone else said, how do you know *that* is the coin you'll get?
  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    They are a very reputable auction gallery in China. I had absolutely no doubts that the coin pictured is the coin I would have got.
    Tim Puro
    Puro's Coins and Jewelry
    Rutland, VT

    (802)773-3883

    Link to my website www.vtcoins.com

    Link to my eBay auctions

    Buy, sell and trade all coins, US paper money, jewelry, diamonds and anything made of gold, silver or platinum.


  • I did not see this thread until today but, coincidentally, we had placed a bid of $26,000 through one of our Chinese coin dealer contacts. Looks like we lost by one increment. That would have put us into the coin at $29,900. The coin is a solid AU and has been off of the market for 80 years or so. Damn......
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  • VTCoinsVTCoins Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭
    I did my bid over the phone at 3:40 AM EST.
    Tim Puro
    Puro's Coins and Jewelry
    Rutland, VT

    (802)773-3883

    Link to my website www.vtcoins.com

    Link to my eBay auctions

    Buy, sell and trade all coins, US paper money, jewelry, diamonds and anything made of gold, silver or platinum.

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