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JerseyJersey Posts: 542
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Glavine, please.
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  • 80sToyguy80sToyguy Posts: 383
    Hey Jersey, switch the channel over and tell me Brown shouldn't retire before Glavine!
    Oh those poor, poor Yankees...
    Jay
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    Barry Bonds
    Kevin Brown
    Bernie Williams
    Mike Piazza
    Jason Giambi
    David Wells
  • interchangesinterchanges Posts: 864 ✭
    as for Kevin Brown.....it doesn't help matters that it looks like he could fall asleep at any given moment.
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Toy Boy, you must be bored up in Montreal now that your lover boy has gone to California and your Expos to DC. Hell, why not pick on the Yankees and their fans?
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    The Franco brothers, John and Julio, I think they both 60 now.

    Stingray
  • 80sToyguy80sToyguy Posts: 383
    Gemmy, I've been trashing the Yankees since I've been on these boards, about 2 and 1/2 years--long before the Spos went to D.C. A team that spends 200 million to buy championships every year and then wonders why everyone who hasn't followed them since the 60's hates them is a team run by morons (and I believe that point has been proven this year). What a great new line-up Torre threw out there tonight--man, they were much better than the line-up of 2 days ago?!?! Again, another screw-up by another in a long line of screw-ups in charge of this team. I will agree that Torre was magic back when the Yankees put together those great years, but that magic is long gone--unfortunately what's happened here is a bunch of spoiled millionaires (the players), are being treated with kid-gloves by a millionaire coach. This team needs a new guy in there, not afraid to trash his players after the beatings they've been taking, making the league minimum for coaches--who's the coach in triple A? Bring him up! I mean they lose, then Torre sits there with his finger up his butt? And Mel Stottlemyre, this guy is clueless! I mean you've got a guy making 13 million giving up on average 6-7 runs per game and you continue to let him pitch? Take the buy-out on his contract--this is Stottlemyre's job, to tell everyone else Brown is done. Yet he wants to be another nice guy, in a long line of nice guys who don't do anything but sit back and say, "hey, remember 1996, man, what a year!" I just find it funny, yet sad at the same time--the Yankees have become the Rangers (New York Rangers--for those of you who don't know the Rangers spend more than any other team in the NHL and don't even make the playoffs).
    Anyways, I'm done, I'm sure you'll have something amusing to say now Gemmy, so go ahead.
    Jay
  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Barry Bonds
    Kevin Brown
    Bernie Williams
    Mike Piazza
    Jason Giambi
    David Wells >>



    They should all retire but they won't....because they are being paid too much money. Wouldn't you like to be in that situation. Time for new blood.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    They should all retire but they won't....because they are being paid too much money. Wouldn't you like to be in that situation. Time for new blood. >>



    This needing new blood is what has kept the NBA fresh with young players...and why the more established players in the NBA are wanting to implement an age minimum...it will limit the number of new players coming in

  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    Please Glavine hang em up

    Umps are no longer giving you that pitch 1 foot off the outside corner so give it up chief.....please
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    No, I like Kevin Brown.

    I think he tries to throw too many fast balls in the beginning and that gets him into trouble. He can't hit the high 90's like he did before right now. Notice how well he settles down after throwing a few pitches (after the first). He had one bad inning. I think he needs to rely on his off speed stuff for now and work on the fast ball before relying on it again. David Cone made the transition and now I think Brown should too. He needs to regain his confidence.

    As for Glavine....this was suppose to be his month. He pitches well in April. I don't get how he lost 4 games already. Have they changed the strike zone or what? The guy has always been a finesse pitcher, so I don't know what to advise.

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  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Kerry Wood, the most overrated pitcher in major league baseball.
  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i>Kerry Wood, the most overrated pitcher in major league baseball. >>



    Cubfan, I sense anger in your words. image Or is that just me reading your sentence? Anyway, Wood has gotten a pretty tough break and has been mismanaged. He is as hard headed as they come though. He is too young to retire.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i>Kerry Wood, the most overrated pitcher in major league baseball. >>



    I'm surprised that on this strongly opposed Rafael Palmeiro board, no one has mentioned Raffy. As many of you know, he is one of my favorites, but he has been stinking it up this year. Now, he is 40 (soon to be 41?) and his bat speed has slowed. It is taking a toll on his game. I sure hope if he continues the way he has this year, he makes this his last year. He can finish with 3,000 hits 550+ homers and go home to the hall of fame.

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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955
    Also, my vote goes to Vlad Guerrero and Albert Pujols. These guys are so good that they create an unfair advantage for their teams image
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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Bobby Higginson, what a smear jub he is. Can't trade him, hardly plays.

    Stingray
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    Detroit should've traded Higginson a couple years ago when he was putting up decent #'s

    I know both the Mets and Yanks were interested in him at one point.

    was Detroit asking too much for him at the time ?
  • N162CollectorN162Collector Posts: 100 ✭
    most of the yankees starting lineup
  • denwd1denwd1 Posts: 430
    these 4 are really sad........jose lima,ruben sierra,hideo nomo and jeff fasero they should retire before they hurt themselves.
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Mega - Not really anger. Im just tired of hearing everyone calling Wood the Ace of the Cubs staff. He is barely the 4th pitcher on the Cubs staff and is completely overrated.

    He is a hard headed pitcher who wont change his mechanics to save his arm. He pitches about 2-3 months at a time and breaks down. He wont ever win 20 games, he probably wont ever win 15 in a season. If he hasnt already, he will surely spend more time on the DL than off.

    I dont think Raffy is overrated in the least. He just suffered from playing in Texas and Baltimore. Had he been a Yankee, he would be King Rafael now.
  • interchangesinterchanges Posts: 864 ✭
    Is Ricky Henderson playing somewhere?
  • jaybyrdjaybyrd Posts: 377 ✭


    << <i>Please Glavine hang em up

    Umps are no longer giving you that pitch 1 foot off the outside corner so give it up chief.....please >>



    He had some great years with the Braves, but he does look to be done at this point. He had to get 20 gazillion instead of 19.5 gazillon the Braves were willing to pay him. Very gratifying to see the Braves wallop him everytime he pitches against them.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i>Is Ricky Henderson playing somewhere? >>



    Nope. Still says he is waiting on an opportunity, but hope he is retired.
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  • mr3holesinonemr3holesinone Posts: 444
    Griffey Jr.;
    Kall Malone;
    Almost all the players not 2nd or 3rd off the bench in basketball;
    Al MacInnis...not because he should physically but because he could lose his eye pretty easily with another hard hit.
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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Raffy may be sucking wind....but the O's aren't. Imagine if he finds his stroke when they need it. Could be a surprise year in the AL East.
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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    Clemens. Guy's only got one win in 6 starts, just ridiculous! I think he's going to need to do better then allowing 6 runs in 6 games. If he can't shut people out anymore for more then 7 innings how does he expect to win? image
  • ThetruthshallbetoldThetruthshallbetold Posts: 58
    If you were paid millions a year, wouldn't you try to play until your 80? These guys are trying to make sure their Great Granchildren can be millionaires. $1million dollars do not go as far as they used to as we saw when Dr Evil was first thawed out. You need Millions in double and triple digits now.
  • ThetruthshallbetoldThetruthshallbetold Posts: 58


    << <i>Is Ricky Henderson playing somewhere? >>




    Last I heard He was with the Newark bears about 6 months ago. I'm surprised no one picked him up last year.





    Clemens. Guy's only got one win in 6 starts, just ridiculous! I think he's going to need to do better then allowing 6 runs in 6 games. If he can't shut people out anymore for more then 7 innings how does he expect to win?

    I hope you're being sarcastic.
  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    Palmeiro! Actually, it would be poetic justice if he fails to get 3,000 hits and doesn't get the 'automatic' entry into the Hall that ignorant analysts give him... which his ability certainly does not merit.

    Another another month of lame hitting, and the typical nagging injury that usually comes along to 40+ year olds, he may not reach 3,000 hits. That would be sweet, then I wouldn't have to hear the ill-informed talk on how you can't ignore 3,000 hits and 500 home runs from him. Reality is that you can, and most definately should ignore HIS 3,000 hits and 500 Home runs. Well, not ignore, but at least put them into proper perspective that most do not.

    The Orioles success could actually hurt him, as his manager should do the right thing and play people who are better than him so they can win. Even in his prime the man was usually the 40th-ish best player in the league. Now he shouldn't be playing at all.
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭


    << <i>
    The Orioles success could actually hurt him, as his manager should do the right thing and play people who are better than him so they can win. Even in his prime the man was usually the 40th-ish best player in the league. Now he shouldn't be playing at all. >>



    On that same note...how many times did you wince at Cal Ripken Jr. enforcing his will to play every day, when he'd go through some horrific stretches...when all he needed was a game off to reenergize. However, that was his deal, and the Orioles franchise let him.

    Raffy is up there though of the guys that needs to hang it up, and go sell the little purple pill that he's so enamored of.
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    Piazza retire ?

    4-5 with a GRAND SALAMI

    Even though his #'s are low this year he's still hitting the ball hard. He hit some balls to deep center in Shea in April that would've definetly been out later in the year.

    He'll never hit for the #'s he once did but he can still help the team win some ballgames
  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭


    << <i>He'll never hit for the #'s he once did but he can still help the team win some ballgames >>



    I agree he can still hit, but he gave up three more stolen bases today. I believe he's now 3-30 throwing runners out. I think it's time for him move on to the AL and DH.
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    I agree, the ideal situation is for Piazza to D.H

    I've never seen a catcher bounce so many throws to second in my life lol . But the man can still swing the bat
  • SkinpinchSkinpinch Posts: 1,531
    Axtell EVERY player goes through horrific stretches, and Cal was no different. You are talking about his will to play DURING his streak when he was a superior player. Appearantly his playing everyday didn't hurt him and his team too much as he managed to finish his career as a top three shortstop of all-time. Cal did end the streak when he was older, so I don't see your point, and the comparison is invalid.


    Cal's playing everyday during his prime is a different topic...too bad all the best players weren't mentally tough enough to play everyday. You get six months off in the regular season. It drives me crazy when I see a superstar get a routine day off in APRIL!!!! That is a mental midget! Guys like Ripken, and Pete Rose, wanted to play EVERY day, and they basically did! And they played pretty well. Eddie Murray was another guy who played everyday, unless hurt enough not to(which was rare). Their philosophy(Eddie Murray, Cal Ripken, AND Pete Rose) was them at 85% will be easily better than a bench player at 100%. And that philosophy is correct for PLAYERS OF THEIR STATUS. Obviously it did not hurt them in the long run either, as they were among the very top players of their generation.

    I'm just pulling for Raffy to continue to falter(even though he may catch a good streak soon), but maybe it is the end? The baseball gods will decide it image
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    Piazza should definetly hang em up

    He's seen 2 pitches tonight and sent both of them out of the park lol

    6 straight hits the last 2 night with 3 hr's in a row
  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
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    Over the course of 162, EVERY player needs a rest. You can't sit there and tell me that he was the BEST SS option for that team everyday for his stretch. Yes it's admirable that he wanted to play every day, but I know on more than one occasion he'd play his 5 innings then come out (flu, minor injury, whatever). That to me screams selfishness.

  • markglickermarkglicker Posts: 1,486 ✭
    All of them.
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