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Grading experiment, Debriefing.

mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
OK so here goes the results of the grading quiz from yesterday with number results.

Coin #1 1868 cent PCGS 64RB

Small pics: Ave 64.0 SD .92
Big pics: Ave 64.0 SD 2.8

Grading for this coin was pretty good, although people wavered around more with the big pics


Coin #2 1905 cent PCGS 65RD

Small pics: Ave 65.1 SD .82
Big pics: Ave 64.2 SD 1.88

People got harsher with the big pics and the grades moved around a bit more.


Coin #3 1964 quarter NGC 64

Small pics: Ave 64.8 SD 2.0
Big pics: Ave 64.5 SD 1.66

Big pics seemed to help grading this darkly toned coin. Quite a few hits on the cheek that you can't see until you get big pics.

Coin #4 1943 quarter PCGS 65

Small pics: Ave 65.7 SD .89
Big pics: Ave 65.5 SD .87

Grading tightened a bit on this with bigger pics. Only one 67 given with big pics vs 5 with small pics.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    can I buy the 43 quarter at 65 money?image

    Interesting thread with results on the last coin that I find alittle surprising.

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  • clackamasclackamas Posts: 5,615
    That is pretty cool. I wonder if a coin could be determined to be PQ or an upgrade shot by this method.

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    Three out of four of the coins were undergraded by the services. image

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Seems that people had a harder time with the copper, but did better with the small pics and tended self-destruct with the big pics.

    The 43 quart has a line/scratch in front of the nose and a couple reed marks on the neck which would keep it from 66 in my view.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wish I could find a steady diet of 1868 cents that look like that coin in MS-64 holders at MS-64 brown money. The only thing that was wrong with that coin was that it was not Red or R&B.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Plus the 1868 is a new variety of repunched 1 not previously attributed in Snow's book.
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  • I absolutely concur with BillJones on that piece.
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,308 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A very interesting sampling. How many people here know what a standard deviation is?

  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    How different are the results if you look at just the people who graded both sizes ?
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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting, and enjoyable exercise.

    Not surprising to me that nearly all of the grades dropped with the larger pictures.

    I think one thing we all knew is that you can't grade a coin if you can't see the marks! That '43 quarter BOOMED at a distance with both luster and strike, resulting in the 67 grades. You needed the closeup to really judge the coin.
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  • BigGreekBigGreek Posts: 1,090


    << <i>Interesting, and enjoyable exercise.

    Not surprising to me that nearly all of the grades dropped with the larger pictures.

    I think one thing we all knew is that you can't grade a coin if you can't see the marks! That '43 quarter BOOMED at a distance with both luster and strike, resulting in the 67 grades. You needed the closeup to really judge the coin. >>



    I still this the 43 is a 66 image
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  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt for those looking for results.
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm very pleased with how I did. However, I can't see how the 1868 cent could be called RB when the reverse was COMPLETELY brown and the obverse only had a smidget of red visible.

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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    My pics are a bit dark. The obv has quite a lot of red on it.
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