Grading experiment, Part 2. Make sure you do part one first.

mgoodm3

OK. I figured that I'd bring out Part two a bit early. Just make sure you do part 1 first. No cheating. Grade the four coins, bigger pics this time.

Coin #1:




Coin #2:




Coin #3:




Coin #4:

BillJones

MS-65, Brown (same as before)
MS-66, Red (same as before)
MS-66 (down a point)
MS-66 (same as before)

TommyType

I can already see that my grades are going to drop.....

#1: 65Brown (Added: Same numeric, dropped from RB)
#2: 64Red (Dropped from 66....Probably too harsh)
#3: 65 (Same)
#4: 65 (Dropped from 67....And I don't regret it)

Of course, I claim no expertise in grading to begin with.....

BigGreek

65 RB (was 64RB)
65 RD (was 66RD)
65 (was 66)
66 (was 66)

tjkillian

1. MS-65RB (Same as before)
2. MS-65RD (Same as before)
3. MS-65 (One point lower)
4. MS-66 (One point lower)

Even better pictures.

Tom

haletj

I don't change my answers except I say the 1964 now has no chance at ms67.

chloebess

65B
64RB
64
66

Not sure what I did last time

RedneckHB

64
63
64
64

t3rr0r1sm

warning: i am a rookie.


#1 looks cleaned. why does the luster all go in one direction? You can see like something
"wizzed" it all in one direction. and then, the direction changes when you flip it.
I have no idea why people can call that ms65 or better. more like ms62-63

#2 has great eye appeal, but not as strong a strike as #1. look at the acorns on the
reverse, as well as the leaves. this coin though, does truly appear to be MS64+
i wonder if it is possible to dip a copper coin like that to make it so nice. so shiny, lusturous.

#3 is AU

#4 is MS 64.


my orig thoughts were
#1 MS62
#2 MS64
#3 AU58
#4 MS64

cladking

5 (up two) ...but not red
4 (same) ...but RD
6 (down one)...and low end
6 (up one)

mgoodm3

<< <i>why does the luster (on 1868) all go in one direction? >>



That pattern of toning is common on early indian cents proof and MS (1860's and early 70's). Similar to woodgrain toning on early lincolns.

LeeG

64RB (+1)
64RD (Was RB)
65 (Same)
65 (Same)

CarlWohlforth

65 BN (was 64 RB)
64 RD (was 65 RD)
65 (same)
66 (same)

I like these photos better!

JRocco

65RB
64RD
65
66

F117ASR

MS65 RB (up 1 point)
MS64 RD (down 1 point)
MS64- same
MS66 - same

coinfreak499

65 BN (up one point)
66 R (same as before)
63 (down 2)
64 (down one point)

RGL

65RB (same)
64RD (down one)
65 (down two)
66 (same)

Edited for obviously forgetting to look at the Washington!

TommyType

I don't know if I, or we, did better on the small or large pictures. But I can definitely say I felt more comfortable with the larger pics.

I guess we'll find out if that comfort was a good, or a bad thing!

I hope you're tracking these results....you've gotten me quite interested.

Cam40

guess i,ll stick to my guns with
63rb
64rd
no-grade ? color throws me...tough enough to read luster,but toning tough to know even when its in your hand.
seemingly properly curated `43 Washie, MS65

mgoodm3

I'll tabulate some numbers tomorrow morning. People are moving around on the grades, but I'm not sure if they get any better.

Cam40

to add: since the `64 is ngc holdered it must have a * desig. ...okay, its a 65* then....

stockwiz

65 BN

65 RD

64

65

ChangeInHistory

Original Grade Prt 2 Grade
MS-63BN MS-64RB
MS-65/66 RD MS-64 RD
MS-64 MS-64
MS-66 MS-65/66

Russ

MS65RB
MS65RD
MS67
MS66

No change.

Russ, NCNE

lloydmincy

MS65RB (upgrade from 64)
MS64RD
MS64
MS66

One change...

dtkk49a

I will change # 1 to proof 64RB, and I'll leave the rest the same.

MrScience

Here goes nuthin' redux:

1 -- MS65RB (+1)
2 -- MS64RD (-1)
3 -- MS64* (-2)
4 -- MS65 (+1)

John

lloydmincy

#1 can't be a proof - no diagnostic die marks for the 1868's. Need diagonal die line on the "N" in ONE.

coinkat

Size matters... nice photos and a interesting thread.

minor changes for me..

1. 64 RB to 64 Brown
2. 66 Red to 65 Red
3. same
4. same

BigGreek

MG, could you post the results in a separate message to
make them more visible..

rabbitracks

Beautiful set of coins. 1868 1 Cent MS-65 Red
1905 1 Cent MS-64 Red
1964 25 Cent MS-66Star
1943 25 Cent MS-66

Super Grades for a Awesome set of Coins.Superb Photo's also.

rabbitracks

Didn't add the RB to the 1868 still MS-65 RB stick with the other grades though.

cosmicdebris

AU50 BN
AU55 RED
MS62
MS63

Purple73

Without looking at the answers:

1)66 RB (***not quite sure of strike on these, Looks weak on the ear and headband, if it is rub it would make it AU58 RB)
2)65 RD ***
3)64
4)65

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My answers from Part 1

1)65 RB
2)66 RD
3)65
4)64

mathprof

#1 MS65 BN (up from 64 BN)
#2 still MS65 RD
#3 MS63 (up from AU58)
#4 stilll MS66

Shamika

MS64BN (same as before although I'll admit the coin is starting to look like MS65RB now)
MS65RD (same as before)
MS65 (I guessed MS64 before)
MS66 (same as before)

charley

1-63 Red,die break, 2-64 Red, die break(still struggling whether impaired Pf. or not), and still pass on the qtrs.

Shamika

Looking for the answers.

mcmxi

Why has it taken this long before anyone mentioned the die breaks. Im brand new at collecting so i was wondering if cracks affect grade??????

Shamika

mcmxi,

With the exception of super high grades (MS68 and up), die cracks usually don't affect the grade unless they reduce eye appeal significantly.

Many people actually like die cracks (I'm one of them) since they add an element of character to the coin.