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DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
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You are putting together the core for your all time greatest pitching staff. You can pick 5 starters and 2 relievers. Who do you want and why? Assume no DH.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i>You are putting together the core for your all time greatest pitching staff. You can pick 5 starters and 2 relievers. Who do you want and why? Assume no DH. >>



    SP - Walter Johnson - 416 career victories, career 2.17 ERA, 110 shutouts...what more can one ask for?
    SP - Satchel Paige - Had this "palm ball" among others that completely baffled batters. Plus, Joe DiMaggio called him "the best and fastest pitcher I've ever faced."
    SP - Warren Spahn - Need a great lefty in the lineup and who else should there be?
    SP - Steve Carlton - My second lefty. 4,136 career strikeouts, 3.22 career ERA, I think he is a good choice
    SP - Bob Gibson - For when I get to the World Series...There is none other I would want - Koufax included.

    RP - Hoyt Wilhelm - I don't know who want to face his knuckleball late in the game.
    RP - Dennis Eckersley - Give him the ball to get the save - if needed.
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  • kuhlmannkuhlmann Posts: 3,326 ✭✭
    nolan ryan
    roger clemens
    randy johnson
    cy young
    greg maddux


    lee smith
    dennis eck
  • KOBEcollectorKOBEcollector Posts: 3,873 ✭✭
    << SP - Warren Spahn - Need a great lefty in the lineup and who else should there be? >>

    Uh how about Koufax ?
  • Gemmy10Gemmy10 Posts: 2,990 ✭
    Starters:

    1) Walter Johnson
    2) Roger Clemens
    3) Randy Johnson
    4) Christy Matthewson
    5) Sandy Koufax

    Relievers:

    (1) Mariano Rivera
    (2) Goose Gossage
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,080 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Starters:

    1. Walter Johnson
    2. Bob Feller
    3. Sandy Koufax
    4. Dizzy Dean

    I am having trouble with the last spot... in the starting rotation and I would prefer a lefty... Warren Spahn, Lefty Grove, Sam McDowell, and I know I haven't recognized some of the talent after 1975. I like Juan Marishall of the Giants but... 4 right handers is probably not the best...

    Relief pitchers:

    1. Lee Smith
    2. Dennis E

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  • ctsoxfanctsoxfan Posts: 6,246 ✭✭
    Nolan Ryan
    Roger Clemens
    Sandy Koufax
    Tom Seaver
    Walter Johnson

    Dennis Eckersley
    Bruce Sutter
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  • cointagiouscointagious Posts: 847 ✭
    I'd throw Denny McClain into the mix. In his prime, he won 104 games in 4 years.
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  • megatronmegatron Posts: 955


    << <i><< SP - Warren Spahn - Need a great lefty in the lineup and who else should there be? >>

    Uh how about Koufax ? >>



    Not consistent enough. In his first six seasons, he was 36-40 with 405 walks in 691 2/3 innings pitched. It wasn't until 1962 that he became untouchable and that lasted until 1966. Four seasons of superb performance doesn't put him above Spahn in my book. However, Koufax was so great in 4 seasons that he was rightfully elected to the HOF.
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  • 80sToyguy80sToyguy Posts: 383
    I'll take individual years, in the modern era (after 1968):
    Gooden in 84
    Clemens in 85
    Pedro in 97 (really his best year, but playing for Les Expos he just didn't have the wins)
    Johnson any year from the late 90's/early 2000's
    Santana last year, the guy was AWESOME!

    Closers:
    Gagne 2 years ago
    Eckersley in 91

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  • CardsFanCardsFan Posts: 1,093 ✭✭✭
    Since I never saw many of the great's pitch I'll have to stick with those I have-

    SP:
    Bob Gibson (never saw him live but I've seen enough footage and I'm biased)
    Roger Clemens
    Pedro Martinez
    Randy Johnson
    Greg Maddux (not as dominant as the others but just solid)

    RP:
    Billy Wagner
    Trevor Hoffman
  • mr3holesinonemr3holesinone Posts: 444
    Nolan Ryan
    Walter Johnson both Ryan and Johnson were pitchers for losing teams for most of their careers
    Bob Gibson
    Babe Ruth
    Steve Carlton

    Relievers:
    Christy Mathewson, 84 relief appearances...had a .665 winning percentage, won 30 4 times and 20 or more 12 seasons in a row
    Cy Young, almost 100 relief appearances....he could fill in as a starter too

    All of these guys had twenty year careers or longer and were winners.


    If I have to take modern day-full time relievers I'd take Lee Smith and Bruce Sutter


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  • jamesyjamesy Posts: 132
    "both Ryan and Johnson were pitchers for losing teams for most of their careers"

    Ryan pitched 27 seasons, 14 of which his team had a winning record. The first three losing seasons were with the Mets, when he was a kid making relief appearances. I guess "most" is not entirely accurate.
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  • AxtellAxtell Posts: 10,037 ✭✭
    1. Warren Spahn (lefty)
    2. Mordecai Brown (righty)
    3. Walter Johnson (righty)
    4. Randy Johnson (lefty)
    5. Roger Clemens (righty)

    set up man: Goose Gossage

    closer: Trevor Hoffman

    Funny how people put Nolan Ryan in their top 5 all time...yes he threw a ton of K's, but wow did he have some bad years in ERA. Many, many years at the league average in it, to be exact.

  • jaxxrjaxxr Posts: 1,258 ✭✭
    Starters
    Lefty Grove, perhaps the BEST ever, no one has even mentioned him, please look up the records.
    Walter Johnson
    Christy Mathewson
    Sandy Koufax
    Roger Clemens / Carl Hubbell ( TIE )

    Relief, only post WW2 as they became known for that talent primarily starting around then.
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Wilbur Wood


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    Bob Gibson
    Walter Johnson
    Steve Carlton
    Christy Mattewson
    Lefty Grove


    Relievers

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    Goose Gossage

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  • Mac53Mac53 Posts: 805 ✭
    Really neat thread. I would have to include

    Cy Young--his won games record (511) is the one record that, I think, will never be broken.
    Walter Johnson
    Sandy Koufax
    Roger Clemens
    Randy Johnson

    Relievers
    Eric Gagne (we ain't seen the last of him yet)
    Dennis Eck


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  • FC57CoinsFC57Coins Posts: 9,140 ✭
    Its nice to see people still remember Hoyt Wilhelm! image


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  • DirtyHarryDirtyHarry Posts: 1,917 ✭✭✭
    Great responses and staffs. My choices are partly emotional and partly statistical. As no DH, I like bats. I also like venom and uncertainty.

    Starters
    Sandy Koufax
    Roger Clemens
    Bob Gibson
    Warren Spahn
    Babe Ruth

    Relief
    Hoyt Wilhelm
    Dennis Eckersley
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