Vinyl Flips

pf70collector · February 24, 2005 9:10AM

I know vinyl flips now cause hazing on proof coins but what about MS regular business strike coins. Will the vinyl flips cause damage to these type of coins too. Why do coin suppliers sell these if they can damage the coins? I sent in a proof 1957 Lincoln to PCGS about a month ago which had no hazing on it but I put it in a vinyl flip not knowing that they cause hazing and it made only a PF 65 Cameo I will get the coin back tommorow to see if it has hazing on it. If it there is hazing I will resubmit the coin (cleaning with acetone)-trying my first crack out. How much does hazing lower the grade value on a coin? one or two points? Lot of questions I know but any help would be appreciated. Don't know if I should throw away my vinyl flips if I use them only for MS coins. From now on I will only submit and store in mylar flips. This forum has been a big help for us newbies. Thanks everyone.

RGL · February 24, 2005 9:19AM

Vinyl flips can cause PVC contamination ... they should not be used on ANY coin ... proof, MS or circ.

fivecents · February 24, 2005 9:19AM

I wouldn't use polyvinil flips for MS coins either.

pharmer · February 24, 2005 9:21AM

I received my polyethylene terephthalate flips today, ordered on the recommendation of Russ. I had some lustrous gem+ wheats in the old flips, soft ones, maybe that's vinyl, and they did develop brownish spots. Not that many of them, because I usually have them in cardboard flips instead, but those few were in the soft flips about 2 years. I like these polyethylene terephthalate flips so far, and waited for them to arrive before I send in this next pcgs submission. I figure if polyethylene terephthalate flips are what Russ uses with his high end proofs, then it's polyethylene terephthalate flips for me.

midwestcoin13 · February 24, 2005 9:23AM

If i'm no mistaking vinyl flips came with my ANACS submission kit.Now they say put it in a poly bag so maybe if you put the coihn in a poly bag first?

RGL · February 24, 2005 9:26AM

NO -- do not use poly bags. As a newbie, I followed PCGS advice and submitted proofs in poly bags ... they hazed horribly. PCGS later warned NOT to submit proofs in poly bags ... submit your coins in mylar flips ONLY.

midwestcoin13 · February 24, 2005 9:28AM

<< NO -- do not use poly bags. As a newbie, I followed PCGS advice and submitted proofs in poly bags ... they hazed horribly. PCGS later warned NOT to submit proofs in poly bags ... submit your coins in mylar flips ONLY. >>

That's right ANACS does say to use mylar flips for proofs.I'm just thinking of non proof coins!

Russ · February 24, 2005 9:37AM

<< PCGS later warned NOT to submit proofs in poly bags ... submit your coins in mylar flips ONLY. >>

Guess who bugged the hell out of them, including providing testing results, in order to finally get that recommendation.

Russ, NCNE

Bochiman · February 24, 2005 9:41AM

<< 

<< PCGS later warned NOT to submit proofs in poly bags ... submit your coins in mylar flips ONLY. >>

Guess who bugged the hell out of them, including providing testing results, in order to finally get that recommendation.

Russ, NCNE >>

Marty?

pf70collector · February 25, 2005 12:57AM

Thanks for your input. The lincoln came back with no haze though it doesnt mean it hasnt been contaminated. Will have to keep my eye on. I won't crack it out for now.

GoYankees · February 25, 2005 12:59AM

<< 

<< PCGS later warned NOT to submit proofs in poly bags ... submit your coins in mylar flips ONLY. >>

Guess who bugged the hell out of them, including providing testing results, in order to finally get that recommendation.

Russ, NCNE >>

Marty?

Prethen · February 25, 2005 1:00AM

Does PCGS have a problem with 2X2's and staples? I sort of assumed that they wanted stuff submitted in a way that they could have easy access with essentially no risk of damaging the coin on exit. It seems like the implication of this thread is to use standard 2X2 mounts with staples....true?

MajorDuty · February 25, 2005 1:11AM

What about "Seal-A-Mealing" a coin? Would doing this haze or damage a coin too? And, would someone post a link to where one can obtain the mylar flips?

RR · February 25, 2005 1:16AM

Yep, those polybags will haze your proofs in just the few weeks they sit at PCGS.
Mine sure did. Poor Kennedys came back ugly.

RR

pf70collector · February 25, 2005 1:17AM

You can buy the mylar flips at PCGS. 6.50 for 50 I think. and 10% off if you are a gold or platinum member. Someone else posted before about a another coin supplier just recently in past week but cant remember the name of the company.

GoYankees · February 25, 2005 1:17AM

<< Does PCGS have a problem with 2X2's and staples? I sort of assumed that they wanted stuff submitted in a way that they could have easy access with essentially no risk of damaging the coin on exit. It seems like the implication of this thread is to use standard 2X2 mounts with staples....true? >>

False. PCGS does not recommend 2x2 flips for these reasons...

- there's a chance the staple could scratch the coin upon opening it

- the exisitance of carboard fibers from the holder could come into contact with the coin and react with it

- the metal of the staples could cause a chemical reaction with the coin

- and the #1 reason... it's a pain in the arse for PCGS, or any other TPG to open them, especially in bulk

BigGreek · February 25, 2005 1:54AM

I submit in mylar saflips which I fold shut and seal with a small
piece of adhesive tape:
link

The tape easily breaks open so they can get the coin out. No staples
and no PVC.

midwestcoin13 · February 25, 2005 3:09AM

<< You can buy the mylar flips at PCGS. 6.50 for 50 I think. and 10% off if you are a gold or platinum member. Someone else posted before about a another coin supplier just recently in past week but cant remember the name of the company. >>

The name of the pace is JP's Corner.

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