<< <i>Free prize for the best guess on this idiot's next move. >>
OK, you're on. I'll try for the next four:
1. Witty retorts. 2. Feign I'm-above-it-all indifference while posting day and night 3. Set up a couple new alt-ID's and get maliciously busy with them 4. Eventually disappear
<< <i>3. Set up a couple new alt-ID's and get maliciously busy with them >>
Yep, this is about when the 4 post altid chimes in with how great and misunderstood amercoin really is. PM with your addy and this lightly circulated Alabama quarter on my desk is coming your way.
<< <i>Well you just had to TTT NOW THIS MY LAST OFFER I WILL PAY YOU FOR THE COINS AND SLABING FEE IF YOU CAN PROVE YOU DIDN'T CLEAN THEM SHUT UP OR PUT UP. >>
Now Richard, why in the world would I, (even if some one taught me how to) clean 9 coins and send them with 126.00 to PCGS so they could be body bagged?
I can prove this, I bought them from you, I sent them to PCGS, they sent them back to me, all 9 as cleaned.
So, Now that I trusted you, why don't you TRUST ME: Send me a money order for 90.00 + 126.00 (216.00) and I will return your cleaned coins in the PCGS labeled flips and we will have conducted our business.
I will wait for your confirmed acceptance to this proposal and your Money Order. Once received, I will once again post having accepted and received your above stated offer.
You see Richard, this doesn't just hinge on money alone. Foremost it is principal. I TRUST these boards and the people whom make up these boards and conduct business here. I feel for the most part it is a safe haven for all of us interested in learning and collecting coins.
I too believe the accusation of me having done something to these coins was both fictitious and uncalled for. Many people here can stand behind my integrity. How many can stand behind yours?
The offer stands as stated above. I will wait for your decision to do the "Right Thing". >>
I'm Still Waiting Richard...............................?
No more from me this thread will be deleted in the next few days. you can count on that.
No it won't, and YOU can count on that. Anyway, the membership has a very good collective memory. Ask anyone here about Blue Moon, Poe58, Cleon, Bootleg, (I can go on and on and on).
Not a good idea. In addition to the laceration to mirabela's rectum, it might make it difficult to retrieve the thread when we want to entertain ourselves with it in the weeks and months to come. Too risky, IMO.
<< <i>Heres the deal if i send you the money first and you don't send the coins I will have you arrested. Thats the deal take it or leave it. >>
So Richard, when might I expect a CASHIERS CHECK from you? Is it in the mail? I guess you want to "renig" on the publicly announced offer to pay my grading fees (126.00), that is to be expected considering the source. I will be waiting for the CC and let everyone HERE know when it arrives. Thank you Richard.
All this could have been avoided if only the communication dialog started early and quickly with an amicable return/refund arrangement agreed upon (without dragging it out on public). At this point it'll probably leave a permanent scar or at least a cast a shadow of a doubt on the seller.
My off still stands PROVE you didn't clean the coin. I know you can't and you get the slabing fees. I DON"T TRUST YOU TO RETURN MY COINS IF I SEND YOU THE MONEY FIRST. also if you send the coins and i don't give you the refund of 90.00 you can have me arrested. it would be mail fraud 10,000 fine up 10 years in jail. PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
<< <i>My off still stands PROVE you didn't clean the coin. I know you can't and you get the slabing fees. I DON"T TRUST YOU TO RETURN MY COINS IF I SEND YOU THE MONEY FIRST. also if you send the coins and i don't give you the refund of 90.00 you can have me arrested. it would be mail fraud 10,000 fine up 10 years in jail. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. >>
If you're so confident that one could so easily have another arrested for such things on a whim, why not just send him the money first?
<< <i>My off still stands PROVE you didn't clean the coin. I know you can't and you get the slabing fees. I DON"T TRUST YOU TO RETURN MY COINS IF I SEND YOU THE MONEY FIRST. also if you send the coins and i don't give you the refund of 90.00 you can have me arrested. it would be mail fraud 10,000 fine up 10 years in jail. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. >>
If you're so confident that one could so easily have another arrested for such things on a whim, why not just send him the money first? >>
That easy to have someone arrested i put 2 people in jail last you for not paying there bill. why i won't send monet first he won't return coin he thinks i should pay his slabing fees NO WAY IN HELL.
IF walt had block out my address like he did his That's what started this pissing match.
If I were the buyer, we are now past the time I would have contacted the postal inspector local to this seller's zip code, as well as the relevant detective in local law enforcement. Write up a concise summary of what has happened. Include the URL to this thread, or print the whole thing out and include it. Include a picture of the coins and a photocopy of the bodybag certs. If you've still got his packing materials, hang onto them. As I learned in the Poe58 debacle last summer, those people can be incredibly helpful. Learn their names, get their desk numbers, talk to them in person to give them a quick heads-up about what has happened, then fax them documentation of the whole shebang. I notice his address is fort something or other; it might be worth contacting law enforcement on the base, if that is a military installation.
In a small enough locale (my town, for sure!) that alone will be enough that your man Richard will get a phonecall or a visit for starters. Even in a bigger place, it is good to alert the authorities. It seems rare a person pulls this kind of thing only once. You want there to be a documented history the next time he tries to rip somebody off. He'll get his eventually.
There's another worthwhile possibility, depending how you paid. PM me for details.
I think you've gone about as far as you can go with Bozo here. It is now time to go around him.
Having said that, it is still worth giving him some more free publicity here.
Yes. I've also refunded "lost" items even though I'll never know if that's what really happened.
People have done it for me, too. A number of folks have sent me stuff before I've paid to begin with, too.
I've never had a problem doing any of this. It's funny how the most suspicious people are usually the ones who are themselves up to something crooked.
If you really wanted to be safe, though, you could both send to a third party. Based on how you've presented yourself so far, Richard, I'd never send to you first.
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<< <i>Are you related to Gabby Johnson? >>
No and why.
<< <i>This is to Walt when i solded you the coin >>
Obviously a product of our fine public school system.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>This is to Walt when i solded you the coin >>
Obviously a product of our fine public school system.
Russ, NCNE >>
Please come down to Georgia your tail will be between you legs running back home.That's if you have one when i get through with you.
<< <i>Please come down to Georgia your tail will be between you legs running back home.That's if you have one when i get through with you. >>
The usual scumbag MO.
First threaten lawsuit, then threaten violence.
Free prize for the best guess on this idiot's next move.
No and why.
He is a character from Blazing Saddles, You remind me of him.
Herb
<< <i>Free prize for the best guess on this idiot's next move. >>
OK, you're on. I'll try for the next four:
1. Witty retorts.
2. Feign I'm-above-it-all indifference while posting day and night
3. Set up a couple new alt-ID's and get maliciously busy with them
4. Eventually disappear
<< <i>3. Set up a couple new alt-ID's and get maliciously busy with them >>
Yep, this is about when the 4 post altid chimes in with how great and misunderstood amercoin really is. PM with your addy and this lightly circulated Alabama quarter on my desk is coming your way.
It's the RARE Amputated Legs Variety too!!!
<< <i><< This is to Walt when i solded you the coin >>
Obviously a product of our fine public school system.
Russ, NCNE >>
Please come down to Georgia your tail will be between you legs running back home.That's if you have one when i get through with you. >>
I don't have the time, but since you're obviously some unemployed loser with lots of time, you're welcome to come up my way for a visit. Here's a map:
If you get lost, feel free to give me a call at 253.856.7292 and I'll help you out.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i><< This is to Walt when i solded you the coin >>
Obviously a product of our fine public school system.
Russ, NCNE >>
Please come down to Georgia your tail will be between you legs running back home.That's if you have one when i get through with you. >>
I don't have the time, but since you're obviously some unemployed loser with lots of time, you're welcome to come up my way for a visit. Here's a map:
If you get lost, feel free to give me a call at 253.856.7292 and I'll help you out.
Russ, NCNE >>
It's not the time you don't have it's the money your short on. Please don't give your 2 cents your will go bankrupt.
<< <i>OK, you're on. I'll try for the next four: 1. Witty retorts >>
<< <i>It's not the time you don't have it's the money your short on. Please don't give your 2 cents your will go bankrupt. >>
He shoots! He scores!
Russ, NCNE
I am not sure what that meant BUT, if you promise to visit Russ, I will spring for the plane ticket.
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<< <i>Well you just had to TTT NOW THIS MY LAST OFFER I WILL PAY YOU FOR THE COINS AND SLABING FEE IF YOU CAN PROVE YOU DIDN'T CLEAN THEM SHUT UP OR PUT UP. >>
Now Richard, why in the world would I, (even if some one taught me how to) clean 9 coins and send them with 126.00 to PCGS so they could be body bagged?
I can prove this, I bought them from you, I sent them to PCGS, they sent them back to me, all 9 as cleaned.
So, Now that I trusted you, why don't you TRUST ME: Send me a money order for 90.00 + 126.00 (216.00) and I will return your cleaned coins in the PCGS labeled flips and we will have conducted our business.
I will wait for your confirmed acceptance to this proposal and your Money Order. Once received, I will once again post having accepted and received your above stated offer.
You see Richard, this doesn't just hinge on money alone. Foremost it is principal. I TRUST these boards and the people whom make up these boards and conduct business here. I feel for the most part it is a safe haven for all of us interested in learning and collecting coins.
I too believe the accusation of me having done something to these coins was both fictitious and uncalled for. Many people here can stand behind my integrity. How many can stand behind yours?
The offer stands as stated above. I will wait for your decision to do the "Right Thing". >>
I'm Still Waiting Richard...............................?
P.O. Box 2633 Orcutt, CA 93457
<< <i>Heres the deal if i send you the money first and you don't send the coins I will have you arrested. Thats the deal take it or leave it. >>
I will send you90.00 not the slabing fee.
No more from me this thread will be deleted in the next few days. you can count on that.
The "arrest" threat is a new one here. Hilarious, but new. Definitely not from the usual scammer's playbook.
No it won't, and YOU can count on that. Anyway, the membership has a very good collective memory. Ask anyone here about Blue Moon, Poe58, Cleon, Bootleg, (I can go on and on and on).
<< <i>No more from me this thread will be deleted in the next few days. you can count on that. >>
I have now saved the whole thing to disk. I will happily bring it back, should this happen. I don't really foresee the need arising, though.
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<< <i>No more from me this thread will be deleted in the next few days. you can count on that. >>
I have now saved the whole thing to disk. I will happily bring it back, should this happen. I don't really foresee the need arising, though.
How about taking that disk and raming it up your a@@
Not a good idea. In addition to the laceration to mirabela's rectum, it might make it difficult to retrieve the thread when we want to entertain ourselves with it in the weeks and months to come. Too risky, IMO.
<< <i>How about taking that disk and raming it up your a@@ >>
You can say ass. BTW, what is "raming"?
Russ, NCNE
You could make a video and sell copies of it on ebay.
<< <i>Heres the deal if i send you the money first and you don't send the coins I will have you arrested. Thats the deal take it or leave it. >>
So Richard, when might I expect a CASHIERS CHECK from you? Is it in the mail? I guess you want to "renig" on the publicly announced offer to pay my grading fees (126.00), that is to be expected considering the source. I will be waiting for the CC and let everyone HERE know when it arrives. Thank you Richard.
<< <i>t's not the time you don't have it's the money your short on. Please don't give your 2 cents your will go bankrupt.
I am not sure what that meant BUT, if you promise to visit Russ, I will spring for the plane ticket.
Does that offer stand for me? Will you spring for my plane ticket to visit Russ?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
No, only for Gabby. Sorry.
Jeff
or should I say I ACCUMULATE!
I also dabble with the darkside
Ive recently gotten more into currency, especially modern star notes
<< <i>Does that offer stand for me? Will you spring for my plane ticket to visit Russ?
No, only for Gabby. Sorry. >>
Ok, if not the plane fare, will you send me the money for gas then? I promise not to use more than a tank or two to get there
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Does that offer stand for me? Will you spring for my plane ticket to visit Russ? >>
Don't fall for it RYK! He'll just see me at the next show and keep your money!
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>My off still stands PROVE you didn't clean the coin. I know you can't and you get the slabing fees. I DON"T TRUST YOU TO RETURN MY COINS IF I SEND YOU THE MONEY FIRST. also if you send the coins and i don't give you the refund of 90.00 you can have me arrested. it would be mail fraud 10,000 fine up 10 years in jail. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. >>
If you're so confident that one could so easily have another arrested for such things on a whim, why not just send him the money first?
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<< <i>
<< <i>My off still stands PROVE you didn't clean the coin. I know you can't and you get the slabing fees. I DON"T TRUST YOU TO RETURN MY COINS IF I SEND YOU THE MONEY FIRST. also if you send the coins and i don't give you the refund of 90.00 you can have me arrested. it would be mail fraud 10,000 fine up 10 years in jail. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. >>
If you're so confident that one could so easily have another arrested for such things on a whim, why not just send him the money first? >>
That easy to have someone arrested i put 2 people in jail last you for not paying there bill.
why i won't send monet first he won't return coin he thinks i should pay his slabing fees NO WAY IN HELL.
IF walt had block out my address like he did his That's what started this pissing match.
Case in point (see above).
<< <i>Gator, there are no dumb questions, only dumb answers here.
Case in point (see above). >>
I'm definitely learning a thing or two from this thread....
<< <i>This is a lot of aggravation for $90. >>
I already learned that
In a small enough locale (my town, for sure!) that alone will be enough that your man Richard will get a phonecall or a visit for starters. Even in a bigger place, it is good to alert the authorities. It seems rare a person pulls this kind of thing only once. You want there to be a documented history the next time he tries to rip somebody off. He'll get his eventually.
There's another worthwhile possibility, depending how you paid. PM me for details.
I think you've gone about as far as you can go with Bozo here. It is now time to go around him.
Having said that, it is still worth giving him some more free publicity here.
TTT
Yes, and I buy and sell things here (and elsewhere) on approval regularly.
<< <i>Please respond to this. has anyone of you that has reponed to this thread refunded the money before the item was returned. >>
Yes, I think most of us have at one time or another
Jeff
or should I say I ACCUMULATE!
I also dabble with the darkside
Ive recently gotten more into currency, especially modern star notes
People have done it for me, too. A number of folks have sent me stuff before I've paid to begin with, too.
I've never had a problem doing any of this. It's funny how the most suspicious people are usually the ones who are themselves up to something crooked.
If you really wanted to be safe, though, you could both send to a third party. Based on how you've presented yourself so far, Richard, I'd never send to you first.
<< <i>Welcome back, Richard >>
No doubt he was busy at a Dale Carnegie seminar.
Russ, NCNE