Hockey's dead!!!! Think people will dump their hockey cards on ebay??
kingraider75
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I was thinking about doing that, dump all my doubles on ebay and forget it. How can hockey survive this? let alone the hockey card hobby??
Running an Ebay store sure takes a lot more time than a person would think!
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Hockey will be just fine....next year the hockey players will whine about not getting their paychecks from this past year.....and a new HARD salary cap will be put in place. That will be the SECOND major sports league with a hard cap...
...just a prediction, but basketball is not far behind hockey - could even happen next year....that will be 3 out of 4 major sports leagues with HARD salary caps.....just some more ammunition for MLB owners to fight the PU, which has all but ruined the game of baseball.
It's getting better, but we still got a long ways to go baby!
Hockey wasn't incredibly popular here in the states, and I doubt this will be that big of a hiccup in the grand scheme of things.
Many of them have been playing for the full season in leagues in their home countries, and they will have the Olympics coming up early next year (with the NHL unsure if it will create a couple week break in the schedule for the Olympics). They are also far more likely to get the red carpet treatment back home.
Nick
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I hope people dump their hockey on eBay.
I have heard horror stories about him before especialy when it comes to getting him to sign St. Louis Blues stuff. I know several who have gottten Blues items signed here locally with no problems.
I'm also going to keep an eye on rare OPC boxes (81/82, 86/87). If they crash, I'd seriously think about picking one up and storing it away.
The commish is going to get his way in getting things changed, open the game up, and make it watchable again.
I'd like to see a few franchises fold up and get the diluted talent pool cleaned up a bit.
Consider that a lot of vintage baseball collectors are no longer "connected" to the modern market and may not even care for the players of this generation. They collect in a special void where one reads about the players of yesterday and believe that there was a better day when it comes to the sport. So, perhaps, for them, if baseball quit for one season, they could care less and continue to complete their vintage sets.
Don't know how many fit this mold, but there are quite a few. The vintage hockey collectors will continue to finish their sets and watch college hockey, I guess?
your friend
Mike
Jerster
I'm having a ball right now catching up and finishing
several sets.
you took the words right out of my mouth. I collect vintage hockey 60's & 70's and this embarassment will not change my collecting habits one bit.
If people decide to dump their hockey I hope they start with the good stuff! I'll be buying it.
Bob
61 Topps (100%) 7.96
62 Parkhurst (100%) 8.70
63 Topps (100%) 7.96
63 York WB's (50%) 8.52
68 Topps (39%) 8.54
69 Topps (3%) 9.00
69 OPC (83%) 8.21
71 Topps (100%) 9.21 #1 A.T.F.
72 Topps (100%) 9.39
73 Topps (13%) 9.35
74 OPC WHA (95%) 8.57
75 Topps (50%) 9.23
77 OPC WHA (86%) 8.62 #1 A.T.F.
88 Topps (5%) 10.00
I think one has to worry less about the NHL lockout and more on sheet cut cards affecting the hockey card market.
<< <i>Who says the European players will ever come back?
Many of them have been playing for the full season in leagues in their home countries, and they will have the Olympics coming up early next year (with the NHL unsure if it will create a couple week break in the schedule for the Olympics). They are also far more likely to get the red carpet treatment back home.
Nick >>
Money will bring them back . Most are making 10-25% what they could get in the NHL even with a salary cap below what was offered to them on Tuesday
<< <i>This is actually an incredibly interesting question!
Consider that a lot of vintage baseball collectors are no longer "connected" to the modern market and may not even care for the players of this generation. They collect in a special void where one reads about the players of yesterday and believe that there was a better day when it comes to the sport...
Don't know how many fit this mold, but there are quite a few. >>
I "fit this mold" in a "special void"! Whoohoo!
<< <i>This is actually an incredibly interesting question!
Consider that a lot of vintage baseball collectors are no longer "connected" to the modern market and may not even care for the players of this generation. They collect in a special void where one reads about the players of yesterday and believe that there was a better day when it comes to the sport. So, perhaps, for them, if baseball quit for one season, they could care less and continue to complete their vintage sets.
Don't know how many fit this mold, but there are quite a few. The vintage hockey collectors will continue to finish their sets and watch college hockey, I guess?
your friend
Mike >>
Excellent post. You described me to a t. I haven't missed watching hockey one bit. I used to go to a few games a year, shelling out $300 - $400 a game but have not done so for a couple of years now. I will definitely not be returning in the future given the current state of affairs.. I have gone to a couple of OHL games ( Mississauga Ice Dogs ) and have found it to be very entertaining hockey. These young players are playing hard trying to get to the next level. On any given night in the NHL a lot of these primadona's just seem to be out for a leisurely skate. In fact the only thing I miss about live NHL games are the inexplicable number of HOT women who are in the stands. This explains why I always take binoculars to games yet I am rarely 10 - 15 rows from the ice. Ah, the good old days, gone forever.
Oh yeah, still collecting vintage hockey. To anyone DUMPING, lol, I will happily pay 1/3 SMR for all of your pre70 PSA 8 and PSA 9 cards. I will even let you pay the shipping. LMK. No Qualifiers please.
Also, I highly recommend aquiring Legends of Hockey 1 and 2. These DVD's are awesome and really get your vintage collecting juices flowing.
Have a great day..Rob..
My take on sports now: I will always love the game but not the players!
In baseball, Conseco's "kiss and tell" book is part fact and probably part fiction with respect to possible exaggeration of the facts. But, the damage is done.
Prospect: what do you guys think - most of the "active" 500 HR club players are under tremendous suspicion like Palmeiro, Bond and Sosa. But Griffey is squeaky clean - not exceptionally big but strong with a pure swing ala Strawberry - if he can stay injury free, look for fans to turn to him as the only true active 500 HR hitter - RC's may jump back up this year? What do you guys think?
your friend
Mike
Palmeiro got bigger, but I don't think he got that much bigger since he came up as with the Cubs. He could have hit the weights.
Pudge was always kinda stockey.
Gonzo did fill out a lot in a short amount of time, kinda like a pro wrestler.
I would think that people will look down on the new generation of 500 HRs for the same reasons as before, rapid expanison, less talent, juiced balls, small parks, etc etc. However, the roids controversy will probably hurt McGwire the most first, then Sosa.
Well I for one can say that I am happy that the strike was not ended. The season should have been ended long before these "FINAL HOUR" talks were held. Who are we kidding? There are too many teams, too many egos and too much greed and the game has become boring to watch. Bettman will be axed as soon as the strike is over. Goodenow's "leadership" should also be in question, he is starting to remind me of Eagleson. The on ice product is no where near as enjoyable as it used to be in the 80's and early 90's. Fans would rather see youngters like Sydney Crosby and Patrice Burgeron skating and making beautiful plays than this triangle crap that we have to watch each night. Sure you can win the Cup that way, but you are not going to get any interest from any new fans. The fans is where it is at. With no TV contract down here things will be slim for a while.
On a collecting note, I hope like hell people start dumping there stuff. I have some holes that need to be filled in my sets and I am about to start 2 more much to my wifes shagrin. So if anyone has any HIGH Grade RAW 1981 and 1986 OPC that they are willing to sell drop me a line. I have 177 ready to go to PSA towards my 1980 set and the remainders for my 1985 OPC set too. Oh yeah I am still collecting 1971's as well both RAW and graded.
Cheers,
Darren