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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    Basilone's Hobby Box Break #6 Last one for tonight

    REAL ONE AUTOGRAPHS (1:330 packs)
    RO-JS JOHNNY SCHMITZ - BLUE AUTO - BOSTON RED SOX (200 made)


    1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
    #THC52 JEFF BAGWELL (#061/556)

    3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
    #THC-17 Jose Vidro (#0303/1956)
    #THC-44 Bret Boone (#1770/1956)
    #THC-102 Delmon Young (#1312/1956)

    12 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
    #6 Jason Bay (Old Uniform)
    #7 Ichiro (Kneeling)
    #31 Albert Pujols (Red Hat)
    #125 Nomar Garciaparra (Old Uniform)
    #312 Lance Berkman (Fielding)
    #401 Livan Hernandez
    #406 Craig Wilson
    #408 D'Angelo Jimenez
    #414 Carl Everett
    #416 Ben Sheets
    #421 Justin Morneau
    #441 Roy Halliday

    2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
    #F-EB Ernie Banks
    #F-DL Don Larsen

    1 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
    #TN1 Don Newcombe/Curt Shilling

    2New Age Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
    #NAP14 Nomar Garciaparra
    #NAP15 Randy Johnson

    3 Checklist cards


    John


  • I just ripped 3 Hobby boxes, but before I post what I got, I have a question. Has anyone had any issue with the condition of the SPs? A lot of the SPs in the "sweet spot" had sort of a dinged bottom right corner. If it was anything else, relic, Then and Now, Chrome, or Refractor the condition was just fine. A little frustrating, but overall a nice experience. I would like to send them back to Topps for an exchange, but I forgot which thread it was in - I believed Stone was the one who mentioned it. Anyway, here is what I got.


    Authentic Stadium Seat Al Kaline
    Clubhouse Collection Dontrelle Willis Jsy
    Clubhouse Collection Miguel Tejada Bat

    Then & Now:
    - Eddie Yost/Bobby Abreu
    - Herb Score/Randy Johnson
    - Bob Friend/Livan Hernandez (2)
    - Don Newcombe/Curt Schilling

    New Age Performers:
    - Pujols
    - Vlad
    - Nomar
    - Soriano
    - A-Rod
    - Ichiro

    Flashback:
    - Frank Robinson
    - Ernie Banks
    - Herb Score
    - Luis Aparicio
    - Al Kaline
    - Don Larsen

    Chromes:
    - Glen Perkins
    - Chris Denorfia
    - Jeff Kent
    - Lance Berkman
    - Kole Strayhorn
    - Gary Sheffield
    - Miguel Tejada
    - BJ Upton
    - Akinori Otsuka
    - Chris Seddon
    - Javy Lopez

    Chrome Refractors:
    - Jeremy West
    - Todd Helton
    - Alfonso Soriano

    SPs to come in another post...

    Chris
  • How to you participate in a live rip?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    nice breaks!

    The live rip will take place sometime. There is a post up to sign up for. Please leave when you are getting your boxes.

    Kevin
  • Bought two boxes today at the local card shop. I'd say it was dissapointing for $153.

    11 SP's

    2 Ref's Beltran,Fenster

    6 Chromes

    96 Dup's!!!

    Guess i'll try the Blister boxes next week and see what happens.
    Still wanna get my hands on some of the Cardinals. Especially the Edmonds and Pujols SP along with the Matheny SP.

    Ben


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  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    I started on one of my two boxes and I still don't know what I am looking for (since the last modern issue I bought was in 1989). After 5 packs, I see nothing but current players (most I have never heard of). I love the design and the stock. How do I know if any of these are worth anything? I did pull an Ernie Banks Sets Record with a stadium seat patch. Pretty clever how they do cards like that.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Steve- I"m with you- have no idea what a lot of this stuff is. Finished opening the case and collating, now it comes time to sort the dupes and put the set in pages. Want list to come- pm me with any wantlists anyone else has, I"m shipping Tuesday!

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    In regards to the light backs...I opened six boxes.

    In the first 3 boxes I received a total of 6 cards and they came out of the same pack.

    The next 3 boxes I received 99 light backs and they all came in the same packs (all the cards in each pack were light).

    I think it may have to do with certain printing sheets as there are certain cards..as out of the light backs I did get there were a number of duplicates.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    my "dark back" to "white back" ratio out of 2 boxes was about 3:1
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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    The Bonds eBay spree is over.

    My 1st Bonds #61 Auction = $8.50
    My 2nd Bonds #61 Auction = $11.50

    (Beckett comes out with SP List)

    My 3rd Bonds #61 Auction (ended 5 minutes ago) = $2.26


    Still paid for approx 1/2 box for 3 base cards.

    Gotta Love 1 day auctions.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    its funny a good part of my light backs were low numbered. Just for kicks Im going to list a few of them and see if yours are
    light backs:

    383
    351
    346
    331
    330
    326
    19
    18
    13
    12

    Anyone pulled any light back sp's??

    Kevin
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>its funny a good part of my light backs were low numbered. Just for kicks Im going to list a few of them and see if yours are
    light backs:

    383
    351
    346
    331
    330
    326
    19
    18
    13
    12

    Anyone pulled any light back sp's??

    Kevin >>



    i got all of those in "white back"..
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  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    has a "SP list" been posted anywhere?
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  • KnucklesKnuckles Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭
    Send me your gum. image
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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    Here is a list of my white backs:

    10
    12
    13
    21
    22
    25
    27
    36
    37
    39
    41
    42
    48
    59
    67
    68
    75
    84
    87
    93
    94
    97
    120
    124
    145
    152
    161
    162
    165
    195
    202
    207
    211
    218
    223
    239
    242
    244
    249
    252
    256
    257
    266
    267
    274
    279
    294
    296
    297
    304
    319
    328
    330
    331
    344
    346
    351
    353
    358
    362
    366
    369
    379
    383
    387
    390
    397

    None of my SPs were "light" backs
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    i have no "white backs" from #398-up
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  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    John

    were those from the Kuhlman case? my numbers almost match yours exactly...hmmmmm

    Kevin
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    Ok, here's what I ended up pulling. Can someone tell me what I got and if they are worth anything to sell?

    FR-EB Ernie Banks (with stadium seat)

    RO-BF Bob Feller (auto in blue ink)

    THC13 Mike Lowell
    THC39 Miguel Cabrera (123/556)
    THC77 Luis Ramirez
    THC64 Larry Walker
    THC23 Albert Pujols
    THC84 Chaz Lytle
    THC50 Miguel Tejada
    THC99 Kole Strayhorn
    THC76 Darren Fenster (348/556)
    THC42 Gary Sheffield

    NAP10 Manny Ramirez
    NAP9 Ivan Rodriguez
    NAP8 Sammy Sosa
    NAP7 Derek Jeter

    TN6 Ford/Peavy
    TN8 Labine/Rivera

    F-FR Frank Robinson
    F-EB Ernie Banks
    F-DL Don Larsen
    F-BF Bob Feller


    #1 William Harridge
    #2 Warren Giles
    #61 Bonds
  • buc-very nice pull on the feller, worth selling or keeping.

    no sp's with light backs to report here.
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    buc

    wow those are nice box rips! Feller has to be one of the top autos in the set. Congrats!

    Kevin
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    i just compared my other box to John's and again the numbers come up...we may have more than a coincidence here! Im going over
    to the beckett board to see what I can find out.

    Kevin
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    All of my "light backs" came from a local hobby shop. I will get the Kuhlmann boxes on Tuesday.

    I have duplicates of some of the light backs...and would like to trade for ones that I dont have.

    They all seem to be base cards.

    Maybe we can put our cards together and come up with a a master list of "light backs"
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    has anybody seen the same card with both "light" and "dark" backs?
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  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭


    << <i>has anybody seen the same card with both "light" and "dark" backs? >>



    Yes....they are all in gray backs too.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Kevin
    That Bonds refractor you sold on the BIN for 25$ was a good choice - I just tracked a Bonds refractor that didn't get anywhere near your card!

    Unfortunately, a Carl Erskine auto only brought 6 bucks - and he's a Dodger!

    your friend
    Mike
    Mike
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    My feeling is that JoeStalin could of listed it as a 1 day auction and it would of one higher than $25 I think.

    I listed a Bonds regular chrome the same day via a 1 day auction and it sold for $14.55.

    Just my thoughts.

    John
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    yeah early is certianly the way to go now. The "pay whatever" guys have already gotten their cards.

    As far as the light backs go, could it be possible that only certain cards have the light back variation? I guess we could all compare
    are numbers once everyone opens everything. I checked over on the beckett board and it was a bust.

    Those team topps autos are just nasty, no one wants them! What a crock. Well so far, four boxes in- no autos and no Todd Helton...should
    I be worried??

    Kevin
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,407 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>no Todd Helton >>


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    Mike
  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    I have a Helton team Topps Legend auto that I pulled, but he's wearing a damn purple jersey.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    Pic of my auto:

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  • mudflap02mudflap02 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭
    Ryan Legends Auto

    Please tell me this isn't the Ryan card from 05 Heritage, with an 03 date.

    Can anybody explain the concept of Topps Team Legends autos, and why they feel that they can just put them into any set they want?

    On a side, note, look at the auto list from 05 heritage - guys like Spook Jacobs, etc. who played for 3 years. These are dollar autos that they are exploiting because of the Heritage brand. B freakin S.

    I still want them though, and thats the coup that Topps has pulled.
  • i in 2002 (?) topps seeded team topps cards into heritage, not the bland team topps legends. i liked them much better they were auto graphed reprints of first and last year cards. IMO much better.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    yes, it is the same.. i pulled a Davey Johnson Topps Legends auto out of a 2005 heritage box, and I pulled the SAME EXACT CARD from a 2004 Heritage box! suck..

    and since i havent posted it to this thread yet, here is a scan of the other auto i pulled.. sweet!






















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  • Well here's the first box I opened (and apparently overpaid for by a bit, as in more than $70, oh well image ):

    Regular Set SPs (10): 449, 413, 82 variation, 403, 470, 455, 426, 447, 33, 422

    New Age Performers, NAP3, NAP15

    Then & Now: TN1, TN8

    Flashback: F-BF. F-HS, F-DL

    Chrome: 1, 34, 83, 103

    Well, the next box has a decent shot of being better image
    Kobe Who? image At least Dwyane pays proper respect to Da Big Aristotle image

    Yes, I collect shiny modern crap image

    All your Shaq are belong to me image
  • Box 2: Yes, it was better image

    Regular Set SPs (15): 135 variation, 430, 463, 433, 7 variation, 416, 125 variation, 414, 406, 312 variation, 31, 6 variation, 401, 421, 436

    New Age Performers: NAP13

    Then & Now: TN7

    Flashback: F-DS, FR-EB (Wrigley Stadium Seat)

    Chrome: 91, 54 (Randy Johnson), 4 (Alfonso Soriano)

    Chrome Refractors: 15 (Adrian Beltre), 83 (David West)

    Also noticed there was no duplicates (at least not that I remember) in this box, as opposed to last box that had at least 3 cards in triplicate image
    Kobe Who? image At least Dwyane pays proper respect to Da Big Aristotle image

    Yes, I collect shiny modern crap image

    All your Shaq are belong to me image
  • BuccaneerBuccaneer Posts: 1,794 ✭✭
    Are the 2004 Heritage card prices (at least those listed in Beckett) a good guideline for 2005?
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    yes, sp's are usually minimum 5 bucks, rookies 8 starts 10+ chromes usually book the same and same with refractors. early sales
    on the black refs and the autos are usually much higher than what the book says.

    Kevin
  • --- yes, sp's are usually minimum 5 bucks, rookies 8 starts 10+ chromes usually book the same and same with refractors --

    1 BUCK LOL

    Pedro Chrome - 1 Dolla
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    If anyone wants to pay $5 for SP or a around that price for a Chrome....(depending on the player)...email me a list.

    John
  • >>After 5 packs, I see nothing but current players (most I have never heard of).

    Yeah, really. I thought I knew the top Met and Yankee prospects, and they have cards out
    of "mets" and "yankees" I haven't heard of. I guess 1956 didn't have "Rookie Stars" cards so you
    get these wild specualtions instead.
    ebay:1967topps
    1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
    Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
  • joestalinjoestalin Posts: 12,473 ✭✭
    the prospects that you thought you knew were out 3 years ago. Welcome to the 21st century. Guys in high school get their first cards
    now a days. The FY players you see in this set won't hit the majors for another few years. Its never to early to jump on board! David
    Wright's rookie card is from 2002!

    JS
  • DeutscherGeistDeutscherGeist Posts: 2,990 ✭✭✭✭
    There are a lot of posts for 2005 Topps. It is hard to keep up if its not all centralized.
    "So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve

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