Bummed out, but not as much as the caught thief!! Update: Some of the stolen coins returned
rb7557
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Came home tonight and my house was broken into. Lost some eagles, proof sets, and mint rolls of nickels, shq's, and kennedy halves. But what really burns me up is I lost a ms-69 michigan and indiana quarter that I had out last night shooting pictures of. I also had the eagles listed at ebay and I had to pull the auctions.
The icing on the cake is I put a deposit on a giant safe last night, and made arrangements to pick it up next week. I know its only modern crap, but I love those shq's. I am going to have to delete them from my registry set and I busted my a$$ to purchase those. I gotta run, have to make a list of the missing stuff for the sheriff's dept. Thanks for letting me unload........
The icing on the cake is I put a deposit on a giant safe last night, and made arrangements to pick it up next week. I know its only modern crap, but I love those shq's. I am going to have to delete them from my registry set and I busted my a$$ to purchase those. I gotta run, have to make a list of the missing stuff for the sheriff's dept. Thanks for letting me unload........
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Tough luck - will homeowners insurance cover the loss?
I know it's a longshot, but I hope you get 'em back.
A friend of mine had his collection stolen and fortunately he had some dumb thieves who tried to fence the coins at the very dealer who my friend had bought most of the coins from. He had a very recognizable collection. The dealer knew it was his straight off, and that he would not have sold it, so he made some pretence of going into his office to get a checkbook, called the cops, and the thieves were busted right there. All the coins were recovered except one low-grade token worth maybe five bucks, that my friend didn't miss much.
After you call the sheriff and make up your list, call every dealer in a 100-mile radius, see if they have an email address, and email the list to them.
But before you get that safe, think about the implications of this discussion. (" Here's the one flaw...The one thing that can bust even a 3 TON safe....two guys with a gun to your 8 yr. old daughter's head in the middle of the night saying "Open the DAMN safe or we kill you all".)
My plan is to call a bunch of shops in Sacramento on Monday. I'm uninsured, I rent. I owe child support and Ca would put a lein on my house which is why I don't own ( I am making payments to the state, its all back support from years ago, so I am not a deadbeat father). If anyone here sees the following for sale please contact me. In-p ms-69, pcgs # 71563840 and Mi-p ms-69, pcgs # 72914710. The rest I can live without.
I'm glad they caught the guys that robbed your freind. I know how he felt and it doesn't feel good.
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But before you get that safe, think about the implications of this discussion. (" Here's the one flaw...The one thing that can bust even a 3 TON safe....two guys with a gun to your 8 yr. old daughter's head in the middle of the night saying "Open the DAMN safe or we kill you all".) >>
I read this post, and it is why I was out last night buying a bigger and better 1. I don't have the answers for the gun scenario, but I figured that I should at least get out of the sentry I have been using for about 6 months. The funny thing here is that I left the damn thing open this morning. They only took some loose nickels in tubes, and a ms-64 frankie. The rest of the stuff was on shelves, or at my computer desk. I had my whole registry set in the safe, and some boxes of modern proof sets which I had sealed up in plastic.
<< <i>That sucks....I feel bad for you...doesn't mater what was taken....it's still wrong. What is a shq's...sorry don't get the abreviation???? >>
State hood quarters Hell I'm upset and not making any sense!!!
<< <i>I'm glad they caught the guys that robbed your freind. I know how he felt and it doesn't feel good. >>
I know how he felt, too (and how you feel). In the first antique mall I had my case in, a crooked employee lifted two gold coins outta my case. (A 1901 $10 Liberty, PCGS MS61- ex-ANACS MS63, and an ANACS MS60 PL 1873 gold dollar). The gold dollar was an incredible looking little coin, despite its low technical grade.
I know now who did it but can prove nothing. The guy who stole my coins was later fired from the antique mall. He was the shift manager when my coins were stolen (in other words, the guy who had the keys to my case). Because of this (and because he is the guy who called the cops, at my insistence), he got to be a fly on the wall for the whole discussion of my game plan- how I would call all the nearby dealers and so on. He must've sat on 'em a while before he fenced them, or taken them far enough away to where the heat wasn't as hot. Like you, I had the cert numbers and all. I mentioned that at the time (not knowing the thief was right there listening to me), so he almost certainly cracked the coins out.
I must've interrupted him in the act, though, because only those two coins were missing, and there were other gold coins in the tray. I noticed immediately when I came in that the case was unlocked, which I was very angry about. I just assumed somebody'd left it unlocked and a customer had shoplifted them, until I put the pieces together later. The same guy had gotten some coins from me on credit, too, though only about forty bucks' worth. I told him he could pay me whenever. So he walked with my two gold coins and forty bucks' worth of my other stuff.
That antique mall now has security cameras.
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But before you get that safe, think about the implications of this discussion. (" Here's the one flaw...The one thing that can bust even a 3 TON safe....two guys with a gun to your 8 yr. old daughter's head in the middle of the night saying "Open the DAMN safe or we kill you all".) >>
That's why you have alarms and dogs and a gun.
Don't know about you, but my innocence jumped over the fence witht he criminal. Bought a new safe, outdoor lighting with motion sensors, and a new alarm system. I'm starting to think it would have been cheaper if I had been robbed!
Hmm, a bit coincidental, no?
<< <i>It just reminds me that I really need to take good jpgs of the coins I own and put the zip some place other than my harddrive. Computer will probably be taken too if it ever happens.
You know what I find really strange in a lot of these coin burglaries is a lot of times everything else in the house gets left alone and they go straight after the coins. A couple of years ago on another forum a guy got robbed, and they left behind four very expensive bolt action hunting rifles that were on a rack right on the wall.
Sorry to hear the news but I must agree with the other member that going out and buying a safe and right before you get it, someone breaks in. It sounds very suspicious and was wondering what the rest of the board members do when they go out shopping for a safe. Do you tell them what you are putting in it? Or do you just say my personal paperwork and computer disks? After all the people that can get into the safes are the ones that know your address and most likely installed it.
Yes. It just doesn't smell right. When the original poster writes, icing on the cake is I put a deposit on a giant safe last night, the alarm bells were ringing -- loudly.
<< <i>The icing on the cake is I put a deposit on a giant safe last night, and made arrangements to pick it up next week.
Hmm, a bit coincidental, no? >>
You may be right, but we have known this guy for quite a while. As it turns out 1 my kids left the house unlocked. I also found out some alcohol came up missing about a week ago, and my wife replaced it, thinking our 16 yr old daughter, and her freinds, drank it. She didn't want me to put my feet into her back and didn't tell me about the incident. But, itseems the kid next door was seen entering our house and taking it when he left. He happens to be on probation, and, his grandfather turns out to be a collector of gold and high grade coins. So the officer that was here tonight, is going to be at his door in the morning.
We never would have thought this of this particular kid, but it seems that he came knocking at our door a couple of days ago, my wife was,here but there was no cars in the driveway. When she answered the door he was at a loss for words. I hope it wasn't him. He and my daughter had a thing for each other about a year ago, and he seemed like an ok guy (I am really giving him some latitude here, he is into piercings and gothic bs, which I can't stand) once I took the time to talk to him a few times. I showed him some of my raw coins a long time ago, which is how we found out about his grandfathers collection. We only have 1 coin shop in the immediate area, a couple in Chico, about 30 miles north of me, and who knows how many in Sacramento, which is about 50 miles to the south. I hope the idiot who did this doesn't crack em out and just spend the quarters. What a waste!!
you could be close on the 'crack' em out.
TIP: I was robbed - they came BACK a 2nd time. Beware.
I am concerned with this. I have taken all my collection, raw and certified, and my extra stuff that I bought just to resell, and have put it into a safe at work. We don't use up much room it, so now it looks a lot better with a bunch of stuff in it.
My wife is pretty upset, a lot of her stuff got tossed around and broken. I can't sleep, hoping the sob comes back while I'm here.
Thanks all, for your comments, and sharing some of your personal tragedies. I know this could have been a lot worse, could have lost it all. I still have my family, and they're all safe (my home doesn't feel this way at the moment) and sound. And if I work some more, save some $, I can replace what taken. I don't have much hope of getting the stuff back. But you never know.
I guess there is an upside to having moderns!!
will remember other items as time goes on.
Some thing that many don't notice are missing.
Papers with account #s
Pay stubs
Bills
Deposit slips
Extra sets of keys.
Remote buttons for garage doors.
Just more to think over
Neptune makes a good point. From my past days as a prosecutor (and as confirmed by several law enforcement friends), burglars/thiefs who make a successful score will frequently return for another go at it after passage of time. In your case, it sounds like they might have known what they wanted, and might of known they weren't going to encounter resistence in getting it.
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I agree, and the investigating officer said as much also. I live in a small town, and I think all my kid's freinds know I collect coins. I have spent the night going back over the areas that were involved. Near as I can figure it had to have been kids, they didn't take nearly all that they could have. What they took was taken in the order they picked it up off of my desk, shelves, or the very front of my stuffed safe. I have a lock on the door to the room that I had these in. The thief took something to pry with and broke the hasp where it was hinged. Broke the pin right out of it, and left it on the ground.
I had read a recent thread here about the sentry safes being bad for coins due to the fireproofing. That is why the thing was left open. They took about $6.00 in new nickels, a roll of mercs, liberty halves, and a roll of frankies. The older coins were just silver. They also got away with 5 slabs, my 2 previously mentioned, 2 other extra shq's, 1 in 67 and the other in 68. And a 54 frankie, ms64fbl. These were at the front of the safe, and none of my intercept boxes were opened. Not of the seal-a-mealed proof sets were bothered either. They also got about $150 face in mint rolls off of my bookcase type shelves. None of the home electronics was touched, in this room or anywhere else in the house. They seemed to be looking for some quick cash. I will be out at all the local stores this morning looking for mint rolls and possibly some silver.
I know that feeling - it's a horrible feeling. You won't ever forget it.
After I was robbed the first time, I took all more valuable items and put in one bedroom, and locked door. When they came back - they kicked that door in and took the stuff I had put in there. I didn't collect alot of coins at the time. And YES, it took awhile for me to notice that 'other' things were gone, that I had not initially noticed.
One thing you could try (and since the thief - and everone else knows that your coins are gone) - is to start 'putting the word out' that you aren't going to collect coins anymore. Tell 'someone' (a few) that you have given it up, and sold/selling what remained. (Continue to collect, but only tell your wife - and keep in SDB.)
Since that experience, I have come up with some innovative hiding places - I am still paranoid.
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But before you get that safe, think about the implications of this discussion. (" Here's the one flaw...The one thing that can bust even a 3 TON safe....two guys with a gun to your 8 yr. old daughter's head in the middle of the night saying "Open the DAMN safe or we kill you all".) >>
If it gets to this point, they'll probably kill everyone even if you do open the safe.
Jerry
I am going to have to delete them from my registry set
What about leaving them in and see if someone else tries to regester them and have PCGS follow up?
sorry for the hachet job on the quote,...but.
don't cut this juvi *any* slack at all, look at the facts. how many times in the passed couple weeks has he knocked on the door when no one was there? how many times was it unlocked? i'm guessing two, he knew the house well enough to know where the booze was the first time. after that rush, who knows what this 'kid' was thinking, and it seems there is no love lost between him and your family. he is suspect number #1, no doubt.
p.s. the cops told me that in most home robberies - it is generally someone that you know.
p.s. the cops told me that in most home robberies - it is generally someone that you know.
I've offered the reward, my kids are talking around. We'll see where that goes. I'm pretty sure its someone they know, even if it isn't the scummy kid next door!
I lost 17 unopened boxes of statehoods , 4 unopened boxes of peace nickels, 2 unopened boxes of 05 kennedy's (that might not be a bad thing after comments on another thread), I had just over $200 in bids on 5 eagles I had to cancel the auctions on, of course it was 93,94,95, & 96. There were some spots on a couple of these but I mentioned it. They had a day to go. And then there is the mi and in p's in 69. 5 of those boxes were wi quarters, the rest were a mix. It would be nice to get some of this back but I ain't holdin my breath. I had stocked up on most of this stuff a little here and a little there. It was gonna be sold at the end of the statehood series so I could make some upgrades at the last minute. Now I'm thinking about dumping it all! What really sucks here is I have a lot of fun playing on ebay, can't say I've made a lot of money, its more of a trading game. I don't seem to have the eye for 68 quarters so I have to buy em. Made plenty of 67's tho
I don't have the heart to ask somebody to go into this kids home and look around. That puts me and an innocent party on the same level as my thief. I can't say that I've been a good guy all my life, but I have learned its a lot easier to be honest and never have to look over my shoulder. That golden rule thing has a lot of wisdom behind it. I try to live by it as much as possible.
I looked around town today for some mint wrapped rolls. I came up empty. Tomorrow I'll miss a little work and talk to michelle at w.s. coin exchange and see if she can keep an eye open for them. Have to hit the pawn shops too. And of course I'll have to keep an eye on things at ebay. Kids are pretty computer savvy these days.
I want to thank everyone here for your thoughts, concerns, and sympathy.
By the way Lord M, Max really didn't mean it!!! Don't trade him off for another holey coin, for cripes sake!!!
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I trust all of them but I don't know all of the people that they may have told.
That is why I keep all of my coins in a safety deposit box (not fool proof I know) and let everyone know that is where they stay.
Best of luck sorting this all out and sorry about you being ripped.
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I can't believe how incredibly stupid this gal is! And at the same time I am very thankful that she is. My registry set is intact!!! I thought I would never see any of this stuff again!!!
You did the right things, even when they might have seemed futile, and it paid off! Great ending. Thanks for letting us know.
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This is a person who went above and beyond. Locals should direct some business her way. Beautiful.
Well this Brenda and 1 of her kids was seen at our door by a neighbor. My son was out today asking around, was told this and then a statement was taken later by the cops. We will never be able to pin it on her for sure, the responding officer didn't handle the initial investigation right. No fingerprints were taken. I was totally mad about it, but who am I, just a taxpayer that got a half assed initial response. He played it off like the coins were no big deal. Just quarters! You know the attitude noncollectors have.
Yes she did, and I will be making an effort to give her more buisiness. I do most of my buying online, but she will definately be selling me more supplies and whatnot!!!
Again, congrats on getting your stuff back.
Are you kidding? They've got her trying to pawn stolen merch. Sit her down in a police interview room with someone who knows how to question a witness. Quickly get to the questions about how she came into possession of the merchandise.
Also, don't be so sure there aren't fingerprints still present. I'm no expert, but I understand fingerprints will even survive blazing fires when conditions are right -- it's an easy way to catch arsonists. If fingerprints can survive arson, surely they can survive a few days of normal everyday activities.