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Here's a tuffy, guess the grade on this 79 S Morgan..Grade posted on page #2.. ...

Oh, and how does the photo look ?

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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    MS64. Excellent image.

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  • MS63... looks like you need a little more light... some sides look dark, and two lights, will show the killer cartwheels on a Morgan image
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  • from the looks of it- i would say a 62 based on what looks like a scar on the cheek- unless its the plastic. if its plastic then a 63
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63

    It could use more light to show any hits in the fields and on the cheek.
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS64
  • Nice Pics

    MS64
  • MS-64.

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  • 1879-S Found more common in nice condition.

    Grading on a curve, regarding standards for common date coins, this coin would grade MS63 at best. Too marked up. Strike is average for the date but the luster looks like it would be nice.

    I'd grade it MS62. Just has too many distracting marks.

    Nice photo though. image
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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    62
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wayne: MS-62 (possibly MS-63), although as previously mentioned in this thread, they grade 1879-S's very conservatively because they typically some with super luster, strike and minimum contact marks.

    Your photo is very helpful for grading the coin, showing every minimal contact mark, but may not be the most flattering for the coin. So, it's a great photo for grading evaluation, but perhaps not optimal for showing off the luster of the coin.

    Stuart

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  • The strike looks pretty good to me. Based on the marks on the cheek, I'll go 64.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    I'd say 63. Depending on various factors that can't be fully determined from the image, I could see it going a point either way, too.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63. Are those scratches on the reverse by the arrow feathers on the coin or plastic?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • My first thought was 62. Picture could use a little more light. Could easily grade out at 63.
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  • HeywoodHeywood Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭
    Ms-63 but might be in 64 holder.
    Agree with the slight increase in light.


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  • MS63
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  • 62 or 63 depending on the depth of the scratches in the upper area of the cheek that appears dark.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    64
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    63
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58/63
  • greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    First reaction was MS62. Since I've been too tight according the PCGS World Series of Grading, I'll move it up a notch to MS63. None of the surface markings look individually ugly, there's just a lot of them hanging around on the primary focus areas. I'm good with a 63.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS63 coin, MS66 image quality.

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  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a nice image, but the fact that it is a good strong image and Morgan dollars do beat each other up are very evident here. Still I would rate this one as a low end MS63, but would hope to buy it for MS62 money <Grin>
    Best wishes, Pete (who wishes all Ebay scans/photos were this good)
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  • wam98wam98 Posts: 2,685
    Thanks everyone for your input. I agree with everyone about my 79 S being MS-63 or MS-64 low end.

    JRocco, the lines you are referring to on the reverse, seem to be in the field only.

    The coin photo was taken with a mixture of halogen and clear 40w lights. The halogen lights show the frost breaks and scuff marks more. Looking straight on at the coin like the camera sees it, you can see the haze in the fields.

    Only when you tilt the coin away from you, the scuff marks show and a couple are pretty bad. When you rotate the coin you can see something else, Prooflike fields. In the photo there's only a slight hint to any PL being behind Miss Liberty's hair you can see the shine of my Nikon camera reflecting back.

    Oh well, this is what PCGS gave as their opinion last year. I don't have a photo of the old holder this coin came from, but it was in a NGC holder graded MS-64. The holder was scuffed up and scratched, so I cracked it and sent it to PCGS.
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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No way, I'd pass on it for 65 money and keep looking.

    Edited to add: But that a great upgrade. I'd still sell and find a better example.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rollerman: That's a very nice author icon that you've selected...

    <--- It looks very familiar to me image

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  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Stuart, Sorry 'bout the double up on the sender ID. When I got to that part of the sign in process, I thought: I've always considered my 1799 Drapped Bust dollar to be the Queen of my collection. It's my oldest, most valuable, coin and of course, the most I've ever paid for a coin. I've had her for 25 years or so and she has appreciated nicely and I never tire of looking at her.
    I thought about other coins too, but this one seemed the most logical.
    If it bothers you, and I know you were here first, I'll change it.
    Best wishes, Pete
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