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what is the allure of collecting "small" coins

You know, George is a great guy, and I know he's not alone. He loves those mini busties with a passion. Frank goes nuts over toned Roosevelts. The list can go on. But with all the great designs on quarters, halves and dollars, and all the size that you can enjoy, it makes me wonder what the allure is of the small coin(<20mm) is all about and what it has to offer. Can we chime in on this one? In no way do I want to sound critical-just awefully curious!image
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  • ERER Posts: 7,345
    Got to be dollar size.image
  • Probably the same reason that people collect larger coins...they appreciate the design or significance of the coin?


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  • They take less space to store?
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rarity and lack of competition from other collectors. For instance, many 3-cent silver coins and half dimes have "tiny" mintages of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands. Many early half dime varieties offer only a few examples known. Compare this to Morgan dollars (just to pick on a popular series) where a "rare" date is one of which thousands of examples are known, and the allure of the smaller silver coins becomes apparent.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the look of copper and CN coins. Started out collecting pennies from change as a kid. Some great designs on the FE and IHC's. The rarities are bargains compared to silver coins. Very challenging to complete a set in 65R or finer, especially if buying quality. Far more interesting than looking through 1000 Morgans per auction, for instance.

    Less than 19mm though, I would have to agree with you.imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    I started with seated half dimes when I stumbled across a really beautifully toned one. It really caught my attention. It's not that I don't like large coins. I typically stay away from Morgans just because everyone seems to be after them. I'm a type collector, which tp me means if I find a nice coin, I buy it regardless of size, shape or color.
  • I like the Seated Half-dimes because the design and size. I know the same design appears on larger coins but a coin being that small rates very high on my coolness meter. Also the "Half Dime" denomination is obsolete. There are also alot of varieties with the Half Dimes which can keep a collector happy for a long time. People that come over know that I collect coins and ask me if I got anything new in. The first time I showed them a Half-Dime they were like image Alot of folks don't know they exist. A few dealers asked me what I collect and I told them Franklin half Dollars and Seated Half Dimes. I always get the weird head turn then they say " thats an interesting mix " LOL. I collect what I like. It's an underated coin.....and I like it!......less competition!

    PURPLE!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never understood the preference for large coins. If size mattered, I'd skip coins and buy paintings and antique furniture.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Half dimes are one of my favorite denominations. I find it interesting to look at the artwork placed on such a tiny piece of precious metal.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,649 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coins are coins. Sometimes even tokens and medals are coins.image
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  • CaseyCasey Posts: 1,502 ✭✭
    Barber dime collecting is my primary focus. I love the Barber design, so maybe it's because "nice looking" dimes are so much easier to find than Barber quarters or halves. Completely a nice looking original dime set is going to be much easier than the halves.

    I've never been a fan of Morgans or dollar sized coins because of the frequent bag marks and scuffs that show up so prominantly in the fields.
  • I've taken to collecting dimes because of the varieties and color patterns that you can find, and the fact that they're still reasonable affordable. True - some of the monsters can go into the 4 figures easily, but imagine what it would cost to have a complete set of toned Morgans in MS66 or better condition!!! I'll stick with my little roosies image
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    When toned, "Trimes" seem to have very vivid coloring compared to other coins. Over the top.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    I've always like small cents. I love the look of copper, especially when it's toned (RB or BN). I like all copper incuding half, large cents and two cents which aren't as small.
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  • The smaller coins were the coins people used.
    The half dollars and dollars had a lot of purchasing power in the early years of our nations' history, and weren't seen or used all that much by the common people.
    The smaller denomination coins were the workhorse of the economy.
    When you collect the small coins you do literally hold "history in your hands".


    Ray
  • Every newbie who starts collecting goes for the BIG coins because they don't know any better. There is a whole world of great coin designs out there. It takes them time to find the true gems!
  • this is an eye-opener; thanks for all your insightful remarks! Keep em coming. The thread has informative aspect as to why people collect what they do. Superimage
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I don't like little coins and have essentially skipped them when building my colonial type set.

    Its just hard for me to pay substantial money for something - rare and important as it may be - which is no larger than a chickpea.

    Andy makes a good point in taking the concept to the extreme, but to me there is a meaningful difference in the experience of collecting 3 cent silver coins vs Draped Bust Dollars, for example. The latter are impressive, big and bold and have a certain heft to them, while collecting the former entails a lot of squinting.


  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭


    << <i> while collecting the former entails a lot of squinting. >>



    That's what cameras with macro are for. Making them hugeimage
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  • amazing thing, those macro's!! You know a good macro shot at a 2048 setting works better than a loupe sometimes!!
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bought a couple copper dollars today. Tried using the loupe and it was ridiculous - didn't know what to do with it! image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Because they are coins. ...and because they are there.
  • it makes me wonder what the allure is of the small coin(<20mm) is all about and what it has to offer.

    Hasn't the diminutive size of some coins just killed their value? Look at the price of gold dollars from the 1800s -- even high-grade MS coins really are not all that expensive, esp. when compared to their larger brethren. And no wonder -- you can't even see the damn gold dollars without a loupe. The size began to make me despise the ones I did buy, even overtaking my appreciation of their history. Shallow, but true. (I have only a couple of them and I want to get rid of them. They now annoy me.)
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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    three cent nicks and trimes (fish scales) also half dimes

    are really great coins if they are for example liquid mirrored deep cameo proof coins and/or monster colored proof or ms and/or mintstate and prooflike

    in other words they need to have killer eye appeal and if so then they are like small red colored technical superb quality lazare kaplin cut diamonds that are basically perfect and sparkle and have a look and brillance and fire to them that totally surpasses their smallness

    and when collectors advance to higher planes and start to see and understand and apprecaite this as it takes time to get there doesnot happen overnight

    these small coins with the above qualities will awake like sleeping giants and make a big and longlasting splash on the numismatic scene and truly be apprecaited for what they really are


  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    It's not the size that counts but how you collect.
  • I don't know, I love the big 40mm coins!
  • MrSpudMrSpud Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭
    Maybe it has something to do with peoples eyes. I'm near sighted and I have no problems seeing the details on small coins when I look at them close up, especially if I don't look through my glasses. Recently an eye doctor talked me into trying contact lenses to give me better far vision, the only thing is that with the contact lenses I have to use bifocals to be able to see close up. The contact lenses make me have excellent far vision but to see coins good I have to use a loupe, even with the bifocals. So I don't use the contacts/bifocals. But now it makes me wonder if all people who are far sighted can't see the details on small coins. MrsSpud has almost perfect vision and she favors dimes over other coins. I bet if she was far sighted she would be more attracted to larger coins.

    Also, small coins like Mercs look good even if beat up a bit whereas a beat up large coin doesn't seem to look as good.


  • << <i>Maybe it has something to do with peoples eyes. I'm near sighted and I have no problems seeing the details on small coins when I look at them close up, especially if I don't look through my glasses. Recently an eye doctor talked me into trying contact lenses to give me better far vision, the only thing is that with the contact lenses I have to use bifocals to be able to see close up. The contact lenses make me have excellent far vision but to see coins good I have to use a loupe, even with the bifocals. So I don't use the contacts/bifocals. But now it makes me wonder if all people who are far sighted can't see the details on small coins. MrsSpud has almost perfect vision and she favors dimes over other coins. I bet if she was far sighted she would be more attracted to larger coins.

    Also, small coins like Mercs look good even if beat up a bit whereas a beat up large coin doesn't seem to look as good. >>




    Mr Spud, Brings up a good point. I also near sighted and wear glasses. I can see the half dimes great. hmmmmmmm this gives me an Idea!

    PURPLE!
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The smaller coins were the coins people used.
    The half dollars and dollars had a lot of purchasing power in the early years of our nations' history, and weren't seen or used all that much by the common people.
    The smaller denomination coins were the workhorse of the economy.
    When you collect the small coins you do literally hold "history in your hands".

    Ray >>


    I agree with Ray.
    Also, large coins tend to have more obvious, visible to the naked eye, unattractive marks. I don't collect Morgans, but all those coins posted by K6AZ and others in 63 and 64 are all scuffed up with bag marks. You don't see that in dimes. When I was putting together my Dansco type set, I had a tough time finding a Seated Dollar that wasn't all baggy in the fields (I'm still not 100% satisfied with the one I have, and I may replace it if I find one I like better).
  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,783 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe it has something to do with peoples eyes. I'm near sighted and I have no problems seeing the details on small coins when I look at them close up, especially if I don't look through my glasses. >>



    Me too !! I take my glasses off to look at coins. Especially my Cal golds....I really enjoy these tiny things.....Take this proof-like Cal quarter for instance.....Ooops....where did that thing go ?

    Paul
  • ok, let's review!

    those who like small coins:

    1)like their coins clean. Big coins=bagmarks=reduced grades. Small coins are more plentiful with less hits!

    2)like rarity. The smaller coins were, in general, minted in smaller amounts. The key dates of the small coins are real rarities!

    3)are nearsighted and can enjoy the details of their coins without trouble!!

    what an eclectic grouping of reasons!
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  • couldn't help but post one of my favorites of Frank's!
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  • << <i>ok, let's review!

    those who like small coins:

    1)like their coins clean. Big coins=bagmarks=reduced grades. Small coins are more plentiful with less hits!

    2)like rarity. The smaller coins were, in general, minted in smaller amounts. The key dates of the small coins are real rarities!

    3)are nearsighted and can enjoy the details of their coins without trouble!!

    what an eclectic grouping of reasons! >>




    Hmmm That looks pretty good.
  • My Favorite coin out of my whole collection.......it's worn, It's cracked and been used.......but it says the most


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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since most collectors are men, size matters.imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.


  • << <i>been used

    BU!?image >>



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  • Lack of collectors in the field image Though, that number is raising image
    -George
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Small cents have the following things going for them

    1. The coins have been minted continuously from 1856 to the present. And if you want to add the large cents, you can get a coin for every year the mint has been in business except 1815.

    2. While there are some expensive key dates, most of the coins are cheap and easy to find.

    3. Collecting cents involved very little investment in a hobby from the early days. All you were giving up when you set one aside was a cent.

    4. That long collecting history has contributed to their popularity. I don't collect series set, but the thought of putting together a complete date set has crossed my mind from time to time.
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    I typically go for the larger but, I do have a soft spot for Seated Quarters like the scan of the one I own. Whether big or small, I tend to go for as much detail as possible ( as much as the wallet dictates tooimage. Also a closet enthusiest of " Wheaties " because of the relief of the small size. The Lincolns nowadays are too " flat " for my liking. I like them with alot of detail.
  • Nice Seated Quarter, ccr.
    I don't have that one with the cracked reverse.

    Ray
  • Thanks lathmach.image For me, the quarters of the Seated Series are the right size for me. Alot of detail in a small space.

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