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Anybody ever put together a complete TONED Morgan dollar set?

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  • BladeBlade Posts: 1,744 ✭
    Not me
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've heard from toned dollar specialist dealers that some dates are virtually impossible to find with "killer" toning. Perhaps some guy with a lot of patience and very deep pockets with put one together, but the odds are against him. Or he might lower his standards and declare that a so-so tarnished piece has filled the hole. image
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  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm starting to set aside some nicely toned Morgans which I feel are pretty, when I can find them for reasonable money, as nice examples of toned Morgans. -- i.e. crescents, rainbows, textile, etc.

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  • TonedPeaceNutTonedPeaceNut Posts: 1,000 ✭
    Morgans --- that's gotta be a cakewalk compared to doing a complete TONED Peace $ set!!!!

    I heard that guy FrattLaw was just 1 coin shy -- 34-S of a complete set. He's gotta get a couple with better color, but overall he's basically done!

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  • ERER Posts: 7,345 ✭
    I wonder what happened to that FrattLaw guy?image
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe gsaguy?
  • kryptonitecomicskryptonitecomics Posts: 9,185 ✭


    << <i>Morgans --- that's gotta be a cakewalk compared to doing a complete TONED Peace $ set!!!!

    I heard that guy FrattLaw was just 1 coin shy -- 34-S of a complete set. He's gotta get a couple with better color, but overall he's basically done!

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    I heard the same thing...I sure wish he was here to confirm the rumor image
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  • islemanguislemangu Posts: 1,378 ✭✭✭
    there was a member here that had a great toned collection with links to his registry set pictures of each but I don't remember if it was complete

    If you go to the TCCS forum boards you may get a better response to this question as some big time toned dollar collectors/dealers seem to hang out over there image
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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,874 ✭✭✭✭
    I would think that would border on the impossible unless you are a billionaire. Even then, it would take a decade or more!
    "You keep your 1804 dollar and 1822 half eagle -- give me rainbow roosies in MS68."
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  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    A real set or a wannabe set?


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  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭


    << <i>Morgans --- that's gotta be a cakewalk compared to doing a complete TONED Peace $ set!!!!

    I heard that guy FrattLaw was just 1 coin shy -- 34-S of a complete set. He's gotta get a couple with better color, but overall he's basically done!

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    TPN >>



    Actually a Complete toned Morgan set is MUCH more difficult - there are more toned Morgans available, but they tend to be 79-S -> 82-S, 83-O -> 85-O, 84-P -> 87-Ps and once past those common dates it begins to get quite difficult, with several of the dates in the 90's virtually unobtainable - not to count the 86-O & 89-CC - No, a complete set of nicely toned Morgans is/will be very difficult - when complete it would be a "Sight" to behold!
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    either one!! have not heard of one but depending on what you consider toning I doubt that a complete set even exists. have never heard of a toned 93-s 92-s 84-s 95-o 89-cc in mint state.
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  • TonedPeaceNutTonedPeaceNut Posts: 1,000 ✭


    << <i>I wonder what happened to that FrattLaw guy? >>



    I heard he was last seen with IdahoGirl at the last Long Beach show and was never heard from again. Something about her showing him her Bust collection.

    I hear she has mystical powers over men.

    Much like GSAGUY has mystical powers over monster toned Morgans. Once he gets his hands on them -- they are never to be seen again as well.

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's the multiple these days for toned Morgans?? Or is that too simple??

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  • NewmismatistNewmismatist Posts: 1,802 ✭✭


    << <i>What's the multiple these days for toned Morgans?? Or is that too simple?? >>



    Tim - really depends on the toning - there's some that adds "negative" value - Your 87 might be "multiples" of sheet - it would just depend on how "eye-appealing" the toning and the coin are. But if you want to dispose of that 87, you can send it to me and we can get out the calculator (let's see 3 times $48 = $144 - yeah, that ought to do it image )
    Collecting eye-appealing Proof and MS Indian Head Cents, 1858 Flying Eagle and IHC patterns and beautiful toned coins.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,530 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yeah, if one pretty-but-AT-as-hell-and-also-holed coin counts as a "set". image

    I finally found a Morgan I liked for the Holey Coin Vest. AT as hell, but pretty. (On a holey coin, who cares, anyway? It's all about how nice it looks on the vest, and this one looks very nice). image

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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ron:

    I'll think about it....image Got insomnia again??
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    I've done a PCGS Registry Morgan Mint-mark toned set (but it's only 5 coins image )

    Since Morgans were only minted at Denver in 1921 it is the hardest to find with nice toning.

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  • ArtRArtR Posts: 474 ✭✭✭


    << <i> there was a member here that had a great toned collection with links to his registry set pictures of each but I don't remember if it was complete >>



    That would be Toneddollars, and it is not complete yet. He has been doing a great job with this set, slowly getting some of the tougher dates that are showing up with nice toning.

    If It doesn't have great eye appeal, I don't want it.
  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    A complete set of toned Morgansimage

    I have been working on my set for quite a few years. I am trying for a set of 107 coins, as of this point I have 19 more to complete my goal. Really I think I'll never be done as I will always trying to upgrade existing coins to a better color or whatever.
    I have a link at the bottom of this page to my ngc registry set which shows my collection to all who are inclined to look.

    As for Bill Jones comment about toning, beauty is in the eye of the collector. What floats my boat may not float his, and visa versa.

    Thanks for remembering Art.imageimage
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  • ArtRArtR Posts: 474 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Thanks for remembering Art. >>


    My pleasure Jack. Keep up the good work you will make it yet.
    If It doesn't have great eye appeal, I don't want it.
  • BigD5BigD5 Posts: 3,433 ✭
    Now if we can just keep toneddollars from venturing off to Lincoln cents, large cents, IHC's etc.....image

    He has a great looking set and everyone should go and take a peak. There are some real beauties in there.
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  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    BigD5, always looking to branch out. Thanks for the compliment.
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a beautiful and ambitious collection. Bravo!!
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  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks anablep, it is a labor of love, as I'm sure most of you would agree.
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  • walkinstickwalkinstick Posts: 45
    Toneddollars, really nice, That1894-S looks really flashy.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No toned 1893-s? Take a look at the Vermeulle 1893-s that graded out at MS67 and fetched around $450K raw in 2002. I thought the coin was a MS68 as it had no real flaws anywhere. MS67 was a strict grade based on surface preservation. I cannot recall even seeing an 1881-s any cleaner than that coin, but then again I don't spend much time looking at MS68 and 69 Morgans. That 93-s had lovely pastel toning in many attractive subtle colors. I'm sure a nice toned set is possible in nice MS63 or higher. If price is not a concern it could be done, all dates included. Don't give TDN any ideas though. The only place he can go from where he is to bust or Morgans. image

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  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    Back when I started out on this journey, toned dollars were a lot more reasonable. Now even the common dates cost big bucks. Also there ere only two or three collectors attempting this. Now I know of at least ten people trying to put together this set, all toned.image
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