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How do you like your early proof silver coins?

Hi, Everybody -

Untoned, cameo Barbers, Seated Liberties, and Trade Dollars sure are neat, but chances are that they've been dipped or cleaned to make them look that way. Toned pieces are nice, but if the toning is too heavy, it makes the coin look dark and unattractive.

What's the ideal look for an old, silver proof coin? Do prefer white, or toned?

Dan

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  • Nice toning image Colorful toning image
    -George
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them original, which usually means toned. Most any pure white Barber or earlier silver Proof coin that you see has been dipped. Sometimes the dipping comes out really well, and the coin has an "orginal" look (i.e. looks like it did the day it came out of the mint.). Most of the time the coin has the markings of dipped, which is not attractive to me.

    I also like orginal toned coins because they are stable. There is less chance that they are going to grow an ugly spot. With dipped coins you can take as much care as you car storing them, but if some of the solution is still on they piece, they will tone and spot. image

    The VERY BEST Proof coins are the matched pieces that are in orginal sets. These coins bring premiums well over the individual coin prices because of their beauty and uniform appearance. I owned a 1909 Proof set years ago that was totally orginal. I sold it make the down payment on my first home. The home investment was great, but in some ways I do miss that set. It was image
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Lightly toned, not too heavy and dark to obscure the detail

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  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like them toned, and it doesn't have to be rainbow toning- even light brown toning is OK, as long as it looks original. The toning should be light enough that it doesn't interfere with the flash of the mirrors. If the toning is heavy enough to make the coin look dull, then it is eating into the surface, and I want no part of it. I want the coin to look like a proof. Early proofs can have a few scattered hairlines, as most do, but should not be covered with hairlines or look "wiped". One final thing that turns me away is hazy or milky toning, especially on Liberty and Shield nickels, but sometimes on silver too. Yuck- avoid at all costs.
  • I like my coins white if I can find them.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's an example of a "low grade" Barber Proof quarter that pleases me. She only grades PCGS PR-63 because of some minor hairlines and a mint caused lint mark that is at 2 o'clock. Yet I bought her as soon as I saw her because she had never been dipped and had her original skin. BTW she looks better in person!

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    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • OldnewbieOldnewbie Posts: 1,425 ✭✭
    I've been buying "original" looking early proof coins and my budget will allow.
    I'm having a terrible time taking pics of these coins. This photo is from Legend.
    I have a 3CS in 65 that is "gun blue" that I wish I could photograph, but so far no luck.



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  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I prefer original. I don't know how a coin can be untoned at all (naturally) after all those years.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Like this:

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  • I agree with what BillJones said in his first post. So why am I replying? Because it gives me a chance to show off my 1907 proof set image

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  • I like pretty and light toning,light color around the edges going to brilliant in the center.No dipped coins for me because of possibe spotting later. I have had that happen to me in unc. coins and proof so I buy original coins from now on.image
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like thisimage

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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    I always preferred old proofs un-toned. Maybe I'm just weird image. Boiler... that isn't your coin is it? image.

    -Daniel
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    imageimageimageimageimage What else can you say about these "AWESOME" Coins? Lee
  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    D - Yes it is my coin. I bought it at the Eliasberg sale in 96image That was a sale to remember. I can't help but wonder what that collection would bring at auction today??
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is the look I like. Golden centers with electric blue peripheries:

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  • boiler78boiler78 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TDN imageimage
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    i like the gem proof cameo 1829 half dime image the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    for me the ideal way for a pre 1916 proof coin to come is many ways

    1--totally blast white brilliant strong cameo to deep/ultra cameo really choice to gem proof with great eye appeal with no spots stains haze cloudiness and with flash and blast if it has an extremely light even skin on the coin no problem!

    2-- nicely to killer toned really choice to gem proof with tremendous eye appeal

    michael

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
    a rare die variety of a proof seated coin................. imageso far uniqueimage


    michael
  • Dang!!! that's a nice proof set Carl --- I'm trying the same but in 1911 -- I'm just missing the dime!

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    Anyone have a 64-66CAM toned Dime to let me finish this set!!! I haven't been able to find a single one in 2 years.

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    TPN
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like white and toned... here's a nice set
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  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I like this one - though very different from the 1892

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  • michaelmichael Posts: 9,524 ✭✭
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  • Laura Sperber is said to have some of her personal money in matching original toned old proof sets. That should tell you something.
    morgannut2

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