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Type set upgrade: flying eagle cent. Grade revealed!

BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
I hadn't upgraded any coins in the dansco in a while,
but have been keeping an eye out for a nicer flying eagle cent

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my current example is an 1857 in maybe EF40 or 45

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I was looking for a coin with full feather detail and maybe a bit of luster.
Took a bit of searching but I finally found this coin:

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what do you think it grades? it's in an ANACS slab.

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  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭
    62?

    looks nice.
  • BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Either 62 or the nicest 58 I've seen.
  • 58 wing tips just a tad-superb. i like the old one, 53?
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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
    63. Super coin.

    By the way . . . today a fellow collector (new) emailed me a link to a "superb type set" he found on the net. I emailed him back . . . said come on in to the Boards and look at it all you want . . .it's Baley's!!!

    It was . . .

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  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58
  • stev32kstev32k Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭
    You have some good ones, and some good pictures. I really like looking at those kinds of collections. I'm working on my own dansco 7070.
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you buy it, does that mean the 1857 in there now will be for sale? image
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    These are hard to grade sight-seen, let alone from an image. Re Unc. FE Cents, strike is not as important as with other series, as these coins usually were not struck well. I've seen a number of Ms 65s with poor tailfeather definition. If it's an Unc., spot free and the surfaces are okay to good, the grade is ALL eye appeal.

    I think this coin is a nice AU all day long. I can't tell re how the luster looks on the coin, which is important. The strike is excellent on the obverse, excepting the tail feathers, which is not unusual. However, the viewer's rt. wing appears to have some wear. I've seen some Uncs. where the rt. wingtip is not fully struck, but this coin's upper right wing IMO is missing some detail due to wear.

    On the reverse, the cotton near the top of the reverse wreath also appears to be flat, due to slight wear. The definition of the devices on the upper portion of the wreath on the viewer's lt. IMO is not as strong as it is on the upper wreath to the viewer's right. This analogy is a bit like the grading of Lincoln Cents re the upper portion of the reverse's wheat ears.

    Other than a few spots, the surfaces appear to be nice, as they are devoid of contact marks. I also like the coin's even color.

    BTW, it took me a long time to find one of theses babies that I liked.

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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    Either a market-graded 62 or one of the nicer true 58s out there, IMO.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here are a couple more shots of some of the detail areas that some folks specifically mentioned..

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    if you tilt it just right, you can see a few hairlines

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    and maybe a touch of wear..

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    terrific strike though! image

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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-63image
    Larry

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jeremy, age before beauty...image >>



    Yeah, but I have both, so I get in line before BOTH of you image

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  • VicPortlandVicPortland Posts: 285 ✭✭✭
    62
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    MS-62
  • Nice FE

    my WAG AU-55

  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570

    Since you made the rub go away, I'll give it a 62
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    nice, looks high AU to me
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  • BWRCBWRC Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭

    MS62 possibly 63
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hmmm, no one said the "C" word. Anacs thought it was cleaned, but not too badly.

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    Unc details net 55. I think it's in the 58-62 range overall, depending on one's eyesight, lighting, magnifyer,
    and whether they're technical or market graders, etc. I'd price it as a 60 for the eye appeal. (in fact, that's what it cost)

    perfect coin for an album image

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thanks for the kind words guys, will be taking new pics of the set this year..

    folks often ask, what am i doing with the old coin.

    the answer is that it gets bumped down to my "B" set
    (which is getting pretty nice-- all those coins used to be "A"s

    the C coin (if there is one) gets sold

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  • << <i>what do you think >>


    Methinks you continue to suck !!

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's my first Flying Eagle cent, got it when I was but a lad of 10

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    what's that thing down to the right of the date?

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  • << <i>Methinks you continue to suck !! >>



    Lol, PaigowJohnny.
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    image"SWEET DANSCO" I'll take your "C" coins anydayimage Lee
  • so what is the grade of your "B" curiously?
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  • I love your new Flying Eagle. image I think sometimes ANACS is full of it on cleaned small copper. I have a 72 Indian they say is cleaned and as many people as I show it to, no one believes it's cleaned. I use it as a conversation piece. I have the grade covered and hand it to people to grade. Some say MS 62 or 63. The astute graders say 55 or 58 (which is the true grade IMO). But no one calls it AU cleaned net EF 45 like ANACS does.

    Until of course everyone on this board is clued into my little test! Put your coin in your album for 10 years and it'll grade a 62 or 63.
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