Question for ebay sellers- Paypal e-check / unconfirmed address

rhedden

I sold a coin on ebay today to a buyer with zero feedback who payed by e-check through Paypal. Unconfirmed shipping address. Does anyone know if it is possible for a scam artist to pay by e-check and then do a chargeback to your acount after you send the item? P.S., I don't think this guy is a scam artist based on his bidding history, but you never know.

mathprof

Could this person's ebay and paypal IDs have been hacked (for example, through one of the spoof emails)? In this case, the feedback would be for the "real" person but the unconfirmed address would be for the scam artist.

nccoin

I doubt its a scam. Just wait until you get an email saying the check has cleared and send the coin. For some reason, lots of people seem to have unconfirmed addresses.

ziggy29

I've asked the same question here in the past, and I've been told it's possible.

For a small-ticket item (i.e. under $50 to $100) and a buyer with excellent feedback, I probably ship the item anyway. For a zero-feedback buyer, there's no way in hell. Use PayPal, and it's confirmed or nothing.

Purple73

Pm'ed you the answer

pursuitofliberty

If the buyer is brand new (0 feedback would suggest so), and brand new to PayPal, I believe it takes approx two weeks for them to confirm the address.

Millertime

I always try to use an unconfirmed address (my work address) because it's a busines and the receptionist is always there to sign for packages that require a signature. I've asked a few sellers that require a confirmed address to ship to an unconfirmed address, without any luck though. I don't argue and I've never had a seller get snotty because I asked.

Millertime

ziggy29

<< <i>I always try to use an unconfirmed address (my work address) because it's a busines and the receptionist is always there to sign for packages that require a signature. I've asked a few sellers that require a confirmed address to ship to an unconfirmed address, without any luck though. I don't argue and I've never had a seller get snotty because I asked. >>

If it's not a $500 item and you have good feedback, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

Personally, what I've done to deal with the "no one home for signature" problem is set one of my credit cards to have a billing address at my home, and the other one that's registered with PayPal to have a billing address at my P.O. box. If it's something that's going to require a signature and I don't think anyone will be home to sign for it, I pay with the card that's linked to the P.O. box. That way I can sign for it at the P.O., at my convenience, and still allow the seller to ship to a "confirmed" address.

rhedden

I don't think the unconfirmed address is a big deal. I am still wondering if it is possible to do a chargeback on an e-check, however. For example, if the buyer claims I didn't send the item and then tries to get a refund through Paypal. I think I'll ship the coin after the e-check clears and use signature confirmation.

alergar

1) Don't ship the coin until you get confirmation that the e-check has cleared.

2) Send the item with delivery confirmation or signature confirmation then you have proof the coin was delivered.

badgrdog

I just sold some coins on EBay to a buyer that used E-check. I waited till the check cleared to send the coins. The buyer received their coins and left feedback.

LindeDad

You can print a postal shipping label and pay for the postage on the item right in PayPal. That put's the delivery confirmation number with the payment if there is a conflict. But if you ship to a unconfirmed address PayPal will not warrenty the purchase. Better off requiring a confirmed address for all PayPal transactions.

ziggy29

<< <i>You can print a postal shipping label and pay for the postage on the item right in PayPal. That put's the delivery confirmation number with the payment if there is a conflict. But if you ship to a unconfirmed address PayPal will not warrenty the purchase. Better off requiring a confirmed address for all PayPal transactions. >>



There was a recent thread that Eric (K6AZ) started about doing this and discovering that someone at the P.O. "X'd out" the delivery confirmation section of the label and didn't put it into the system. No delivery confirmation in the P.O.'s system, no proof of delivery, no defense against chargeback.

In theory, what you're saying is 100% accurate -- but there's no way short of delivering it to the counter and getting a postmarked DC receipt of really CYAing.