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Auctioning a Great Set - is it a mistake?

Isn't this set worth more as a set than the individual pieces? Isn't it a mistake to sell the set individually at auction and give up the set premium?

Granted, most sets are only worth what the individual coins are worth, but I think there are exceptions. This is one of those exceptions.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭
    I don't know if it's a mistake, but I'm sure looking forward to the images!

    Russ, NCNE
  • SethChandlerSethChandler Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭✭
    I would think that in this market, there has to be some type of monster premium that someone is willing to pay to own the entire collection with one stroke of the pen. Sure, you can figure very high prices for the individual coins, add them up, then I have to believe that someone out there would pay another 25% to OWN it in one day.

    Again I think that "this" market is key. Especially with all the focus on set building, complete collections, etc.

    How long did it take Mr. Scher to build it?


    Seth
    Collecting since 1976.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I personally would have paid very strong money to own the set ... yet I doubt I'll bid on a single coin in auction.
  • jcpingjcping Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭
    In this market, I think it is better to sell them as a set.

    Think about this how many folks need individual 3c nickel? Is high end 3c nickel market hot?
    How many folks play the 3c nickels set registry games?
    Checking into number 2,3,4 positions in the set registry, I did not see too much overlap about the demand. Don't expect these folks will bid the price up.

    If the set is Walkers, buffalo nickels or SLQs, then the story will be different, IMHO.
    an SLQ and Ike dollars lover
  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A set of this calibre, once broken up, is not likely to be reassembled for decades.

    There might well be individuals who would like to have the finest possible set in a series, who would be willing to negotiate a purchase of the set outright. Before auctioning, I might have put out feelers to see if such individuals were out there, though dealers who might know.

    Of course, Bruce may already have done all of this.
  • Bruce:

    You may be the exception, not the rule. Why dont you post (honestly) what you would have paid for it BEFORE the final auction tally. Then, regarding this set, we'll get our answer.


    ----Lloyd
    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • If it is a mistake, TDN, you'll get all the coins together CHEAPER at the auction, correct?
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nope - no one will try to win the whole set at auction. When any sharpie sees that occurring, they bid you up on the final coins.

    It's a set I would have liked to own in its entirety, but I won't play at auction. And I guarantee there are others that feel the same.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,282 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's simply a individual decision.

    If you were the newest Eliasberg, it makes sense - your filling a hole.

    If you specialize in the series and can buy the collection at a reasonable price, cherry pick the best and consign the remainder to your dealer partner, it makes sense.

    If you're neither and need a few to finish the set or are looking for a type coin, it makes no sense.

    If your me....why would I want to buy a bunch of 3c pieces.....imageimage
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  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It'll be interesting to see where these backwater series go. I imagine typically they're the last to catch fire, and the first to fizzle.

    I have noticed a few more people drifting into the proof 3CN family over the last few months.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭
    If someone really wanted that set as a whole at auction and had the money to buy it I have a notion that they would find away to do it without anyone knowing. How difficult would it be to have any number of different representatives there bidding for you ?
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    May I ask the one series of questions that no one has asked yet in this thread?

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    Ok thanks, now I can ask.

    Weren't there a few auctions back in the mid 1990's including the Norweb auctions in which some sets were sold by the coin with a final lot representing the entire group of coins that serves as a overriding and superseding winning bid only if the group price was greater than the sum of the individual coins winning lot prices?

    Whatever happened to this auctioning approach?

    The history of those auctions, if I recall were less than stellar but then again occurred in a very different market????
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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    If there is a premium to be paid for, it is the Scher pedigree, and not necessarily owning all the coins at one time. The look of the coins in this collection will follow the coins wherever they go. Other examples are the Benson proofs, the Kaufman Liberty seated proofs. And the Hugon proof Barber quarters.

    The Starr lib nickels were all high end, probably more 67's than any other set sold so far. Knoxville collection is another example of coins being all of an exceptional quality. So it is with the Scher various series of coins.

    But there also recent examples of complete sets being sold, with the owner not looking to the auction site, and being satisfied with the market pricing of his/her coins. Frank Thomas MS lib Nickels, Pinnacle Proof Barber halves.

    TDN, thanks for throwing this issue up for discussion. I also belong to the group that believes the individual prices at auction or private sale will beat an offer for the entire series intact. There will always be a few(if not several) coins that will approach the moon, that would not otherwise occur if all the coins were purchased outright by one person.
    TahoeDale
  • What's so hard about adding up the set's individual coin bids at the end; then open the bidding for the complete set at 5% more than the old total? I've seen Bowers/Merena do it at a Baltimore sale. That optimizes the seller's potential value either way, and allows a person only interested in a full set to buy it too.
    morgannut2
  • I have to give the nod to coinguy1... I think his reasoning about the average collector not being able to buy the entire set in one fell swoop is persuasive.

    BTW, I think it's time for coinguy1 to change his moniker from 'Dealer', to 'Masterdebater'. But of course, one has to be very careful with that word!image
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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    TDN - Why don't you e- mail this thread to Mr.Greg Rohan at Heritage?He could then present it to Bruce Scher.It is an easy thing to do and Oreville and Morgannut are correct.I use to buy original proof sets complete because I wanted the cent at any price in many Bowers and Merena auctions.Your idea is much better than breaking the set up.Do you want me to do it for you?

    Stewart
  • All the points given are good, but I think CG1 has a more realistic outlook.
    Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Madmonk: Yikes with your use of acronyms!!!!! ( couldn't figure out who CG1 was !!!! image

    Then after careful study, I figured it out. image
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  • PBRatPBRat Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    Weren't there a few auctions back in the mid 1990's including the Norweb auctions in which some sets were sold by the coin with a final lot representing the entire group of coins that serves as a overriding and superseding winning bid only if the group price was greater than the sum of the individual coins winning lot prices?

    Whatever happened to this auctioning approach?

    I've seen this approach fairly recently. It was for a set of Canadian Small Cents, think it was at the CAND auction of 2003.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to give the nod to coinguy1... I think his reasoning about the average collector not being able to buy the entire set in one fell swoop is persuasive.

    With all due respect, what does this set and the average collector have to do with one another? image

    The average collector isn't going to step up and pay what this set would have commanded on the private market. Twenty average collectors buying one or two coins each still wouldn't pay what this set would have brought privately.

    So far, no one has discussed the 10% that Heritage is taking off the top. Nor have they discussed the one thing that might make it all worthwhile to auction it .... that a set of this magnitude might add value realized to the other coins in his other sets that are auctioned at the same time.

    As far as the Scher pedigree having intrinsic value ... hey, I love the guy ...... but..... let's be realistic.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭
    I have seen auctions last year for proof sets that were listed as individual coins and also as a complete set. I am not sure what the buyer had to pay over the total to acquire the total set, but those auction techniques are still around.
  • jpkinlajpkinla Posts: 822 ✭✭✭
    What I really enjoy about this thread is that you have some guys here with really phenomenal sets....I doubt that any of these great sets can fetch privately what a well promoted auction could fetch. That is why the auction process is so effective. Do you really think that the greatest Barber set or Trade Dollar set would bring a premium price as a set? I do but you don't know how much more someone would pay for one or two of the truly spectactular coins. That alone could bring the total value to exceed what you even considered to be a great price. Even with the auction house cut.

    Obviously, I know I have a few coins out of my sets that everyone wants. Only a few. Those are the ones I know would bring good money at auction. But what about the coin that has two guys that MUST have it and that I feel might bring $10k but brings $25k?

    Great discussion and one that I will watch carefully as someday I intend to sell my sets. All three of them.....My plan was to sell them together at auction.....

    I just agree with Coinguy that any dealer and/or well heeled collector would buy my sets. But at a premium? I am not sure.....Maybe Duckor, Friend, or Blay.....But mine? I doubt it! Last I heard coins with my name on them were being offered at a 20% discount!

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have carefully considered how I would dispose of my Trade Dollar set if I needed to and decided that privately was the way to go. I would value the set at what I feel appropriate and ask that figure. I believe it would sell as it is irreplaceable as a set.... much like the set in question.

    I would NOT place the Trade Dollar set in auction if I cared about the price realized as I don't believe there to be sufficient underbidders to drive the individual prices. In auction, the underbidder is key. Coins realize slightly above what the underbidder values them at. Privately, the set would realize slightly above or below what the top bidder values them at.

    In the past several years I have seen great sets trade hands at values I don't believe can be replicated in the auction arena. The sets were priced where only the top bidder had interest - and had to stretch at that. I agree that in most instances the individual coin prices will drive the value, but in certain cases I believe the set drives the value. And private sale is the way to realize the best price while maintaining the integrity of the set.

  • interesting reading here...and imho the answer is VERY dynamic and varies according to different factors and all revolves around

    TIMING...this varies according to several things like the stockmarket...how rich do you feel today??...are there big players such as a sports team owner or real estate mogal who would put the set away for long term or put it inot a trust....is dwight pushing the central america items now thus busy or looking for items...how deep is the collector base and how well heeled are they...can the coins be improved..if so how many and how long and how much

    i will say as we all know auction houses hype the 70,000 oregons and wisconsins....but they never advertize the coins that go begging

    the reality is imho ...buy great coins and be in the market for a long time and sell how the dynamics at the time tell you which couse to take and youll do just fine

    as far as tdn`s comment....i think he was saying....he didnt think the avenue of private treaty was considered....and since the heavy players were surprized at the consignment i have to agree with him that it wasnt considered....thus the end result ( auction ) cash to the seller could/would be less than a private treaty

    key words here are " heavy players "...and i know they didnt know

    also what tdn is saying ( i think ) is....the cost of having your name in lights and on the catalogue might be more expensive than you think....and in light of the fact the set was not offered privately...well...is not maximizing the sale.....which is also PART of collecting and cements the ultimate cudos of " a job well done and the checkbook verifies it " ....which when you think about it is also worth many oooohs and aweeeees...as another put their money where their mouth is

    monsterman

    ps...as chief crazyhorse..." i speak the truth"

    my goal is to find the monsters and i go where they are but i sometimes miss some.... so if you have any and want to sell IM THE BUYER FOR THEM!!!

    out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
  • jpkinlajpkinla Posts: 822 ✭✭✭
    TDN,

    So if we use your idea, how would you market the set and to whom? If you shop the set around, then I think you degrade the set. OR, do you just price the coins and add a premium based on what you perceive the value to be? Perhaps come up with a number and offer it at that price.....IT may work but how would you know that you are not short changing yourself?

    My $10 Indian Gold Registry Set
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So if we use your idea, how would you market the set and to whom?

    There are multiple well heeled buyers interested in numismatic trophies. Individually, not a single three cent piece can be considered a trophy. But the set as a whole is. That's my point.

    If you shop the set around, then I think you degrade the set.

    Perhaps. Yet the Share Collection was on the market for over a year before I stepped up and bought it in order to get at a couple of irreplaceable trophies. There are buyers just waiting for that type of opportunity.

    OR, do you just price the coins and add a premium based on what you perceive the value to be?

    Yes.

    Perhaps come up with a number and offer it at that price.....IT may work but how would you know that you are not short changing yourself?

    You pays your money and you takes your chances. Who knows top end trade dollar pricing better than myself? Who knows top end three cent nickel pricing better than Bruce Scher? It's simply a matter of educating the buyer. The ones that are willing to pay a fair price to get a numismatic trophy are definitely out there.



  • >>>Perhaps. Yet the Share Collection was on the market for over a year before I stepped up and bought it in order to get at a couple of irreplaceable trophies. There are buyers just waiting for that type of opportunity>>>

    tdn is 100% correct here...when jack lee negociated with george bodway a long time to buy his morgan set...both knew their positions and when jack finnaly bought it..it made him the king of morgans forever....i know....i was the squirel under the bird feeder catching the dups...and the dups were UNBELIEVABLE i can assure you....and the grading services agreed with me...thus the combination of the 2 sets made it`s duplication impossible...and when the eliasburg 89 cc in 68 came out in 1997...it sealed the deal even more....however...if bodway auctioned his set....some of us would of been sniping and george would of seen less money..imho

    so jack had george and george had jack and in the middle was a deal...and if george autioned.... jack would of had george...in fact we all would of had a piece of george...on "his dime "

    monsterman

    monsterman
    my goal is to find the monsters and i go where they are but i sometimes miss some.... so if you have any and want to sell IM THE BUYER FOR THEM!!!

    out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
  • monsterman

    monsterman


    opps i pulled a mel tillis and stuttered

    monsterman
    my goal is to find the monsters and i go where they are but i sometimes miss some.... so if you have any and want to sell IM THE BUYER FOR THEM!!!

    out of rockets ...out of bullets...switching to harsh language
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Certain sets are worth more as sets. Trade Dollars, 3 cent nickels, half cents. There is limited demand for the individual coins ... but if you've created a numismatic treasure in the set then all bets are off - but only IF it remains together as a set.

    Let's take trade dollars for example. There are very few individual coins that people would just have to have. Even the gem 1878-CC that I just put into auction didn't meet the reserve [it later sold privately at $100k - what I paid for it 8 years ago!]. If I hadn't protected the value by being the underbidder on a coin I really didn't want, the MS68 1878-S from the Lull Collection would have sold for around $80k - barely above what it sold for in 1990! But if I was figuring my set, I'd have figured the 78-CC at $137,500 and the 78-S at $125,000. And there's no doubt in my mind I'd get it.

    Auction is not always the best route.
  • Lots of interesting comments..I paid all the money for the time when I put the set together..its a really cool set..I wasnt trying to time the market and I feel the coins could still go way up from here they are really rare..just thought I would pick up the my chips and start in another direction..with the advent of the registry I will always have a nice "bookmarked" history of what I put together and now I will try to build some cool sets that will be in new challenging areas for me...
    Bruce Scher
  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    TDN,

    Did you keep the Share collection intact ? Or was the purchase for the single reason to obtain several coins, and then the sale of the remainder?

    The premium that you suggest be paid for the entire set, because it is the intact set than demands a premium, vanishes when the set is broken up, doesn't it? Did you break up the Share collection? Or did you not pay a premium to obtain all the coins?

    There is a distinct difference between an entire series of MS or Proof coins, and a small group of coins that seem to remain together over the course of time. Such as King of Siam, Amazonion, Pan Pac original box and coins, proof sets with original info, all similarly toned. These coins may very well remain together for generations.

    Even if one passionate collector did buy Scher's 3CN, or even the Proof halves (also finest known at PCGS), it will still be the sale of the coins individually that will bring out the big bucks for enough of the results to exceed the single price for the whole group.

    Auction versus consignment to a major dealer for marketing is another question. Laura believes that the Lull collection type set would have brought more if sold privately, but not necessarily to one person. That may be, but as solid as that set was, I do not see a premium paid for the entire collection intact. The prices of the individual coins, with the pedigree of a great collector, would be enough.

    TahoeDale
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,146 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bruce: the whole point of this thread is that your MS set is one of the finest sets in the entire Registry. I'm sad to see it broken up - I wish it could remain together!

    Dale: there are very few sets where I would argue that the set brings a premium. Most are purchased just to get at a few coins [as with the Share Collection], or are sold individually. The Scher Collection of MS Three Cent nickels is such an outstanding set - head and shoulders above its competition - that I believe there is indeed set premium.
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭
    TDN you make a very strong argument, I have to admit yesterday I didn't realize what had inspired your question.
  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    TDN,

    I too have given your proposition more thought. They may be a time in the future that more complete series, assembled by passionate collectors, will remain intact, and be passed from generation to generation. And with a premium to boot.

    The excitement generated in the year 2035 when a set that stayed together for 30 years comes back on the market will blow the top off of pricing. Think of the grade inflation, the hits on a 67 that will be allowed, the lack of original toning on coins of that day and the premium you speak of will be astronomical.

    I'm just sorry I will not be there to participate.
    TahoeDale
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,771 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My only appreciation for this "keeping great coins intact" is the well known Norweb trio of Canadian 1875-H specimen coinage (silver 5c, 10c, and 25c) in which I feared letting Jay Parrino send such trio of coins to the auction house and consumated a deal in 1997 to buy the three of them together to keep them together, hopefully forever. It was driven by fear as much as by sentiment.

    I kept kicking myself that I could not afford them in 1996 when the Norweb auction took place but then suddenly was fortunate enough to pay the higher price just 18 months later.

    As a result, I was willing to pay a premium at the time to avoid getting into a feared bidding war over the 5c and 25c.

    So fear, sentiment, desire, finances and timing are important factors.
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  • Looks like no e-mailing to Rohan is necessary. Bruce and Bruce could e-mail each other!!! Besides, why would Rohan (and Heritage) want it privately sold?

    ---Lloyd
    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • With my budget for coins, hearing people talk about buying a whole set like this
    is unbelievable.

    (I guess that it is time for me to go back to the poor collector's section!)

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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    Lloyd - The coins are already consigned by Bruce S to Heritage.Heritage could auction each lot individually.After this is done they add the total from the lots.They then use the total + 5% and open the bidding.If someone increases the bid then all the lots will be sold as a collection.

    Stewart
  • I'm with CoinGuy1.

    I am serious collector of the nickel three's but I wouldn't buy the set as an entity.

    Why shell out megabucks for the entire set instead of focusing the resources I do have on the five upgrades I'd like to get? Yes, I'll probably pay more for each of the five upgrades. But overall? I'll be paying a heckuva a lot less doing it this way.

    And while I'm at it: Congratulations to Mr. Scher for piecing together the greatest set of this beautiful and difficult coin. Gosh, some of those coins he got are so hard to find, I've been searching for a decade for them -- and haven't found them.

    Enjoy!


    Just Having Fun!



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  • Boy, I learn something everyday. The case of "I am the lot winner, no I guess I am NOT" would play heavy if all the lots sold individually, then Heritage can decide to open it all again as a "set sale". Of course it benefits the consignor and auction site, but it goes back to Windycity's thread "Bad Experience with Heritage Fun Auction" - without any prior disclaimer, how it just would be a sticky outcome - having all these lot winners, then to be told they did NOT win the lot. What if the individual lot winners would have bid something else, and wanted to, but knew they had to pay for a lot they had THOUGHT they won?

    Would it not then be fair for me as a buyer to bid on say 5 lots I really want, win them all, then say I only want two of them, because I thought there would be a chance some of the winning lots would be taken away from me?

    What IS the auction house rule on this? Shouldnt the sales of individual lots of a set have a disclaimer from Heritage (or whatever house) that "even though you won the lot after all floor, phone, internet, etc. bids, there is a possibility you did not win if the set is sold in its completion after the set's final auction prices realized etc.".

    ----Lloyd



    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    Lloyd - What if ? Would it ? What is ? All questions you have to ask yourself.What happens when you go to a race track and bid on a daily double,a trifecta etc. ? The same rules apply.This sysem of bidding is the most productive for the auction company and consignor.Its works fine and I have participated many times and have won lots as well as lost them.Always with proof sets.

    Stewart
  • This type of bidding happens al the time for real estate....first bidding on individual parcels and then on the whole.....I have never understood this, or "stood for it" as a bidder......as a bidder, one always has the option of not bidding....!! Kind of like having a party and no one showing up!! Tough to do sometimes, but better than being the last guy to buy tulips!!!
    RAD


  • << <i>Madmonk: Yikes with your use of acronyms!!!!! ( couldn't figure out who CG1 was !!!! image

    Then after careful study, I figured it out. image >>



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  • DMWJRDMWJR Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Boy, I learn something everyday. The case of "I am the lot winner, no I guess I am NOT" would play heavy if all the lots sold individually, then Heritage can decide to open it all again as a "set sale". Of course it benefits the consignor and auction site, but it goes back to Windycity's thread "Bad Experience with Heritage Fun Auction" - without any prior disclaimer, how it just would be a sticky outcome - having all these lot winners, then to be told they did NOT win the lot. What if the individual lot winners would have bid something else, and wanted to, but knew they had to pay for a lot they had THOUGHT they won?

    Heritage has been doing this for quite some time with classic proof sets. It seems to work ok. They offer the group at a 5% premium over the individual bids immediately after the individual lots are auctioned. You will know right away if you are not going to win a lot.
    Doug
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Boy, I learn something everyday. The case of "I am the lot winner, no I guess I am NOT" would play heavy if all the lots sold individually, then Heritage can decide to open it all again as a "set sale". Of course it benefits the consignor and auction site, but it goes back to Windycity's thread "Bad Experience with Heritage Fun Auction" - without any prior disclaimer, how it just would be a sticky outcome - having all these lot winners, then to be told they did NOT win the lot. What if the individual lot winners would have bid something else, and wanted to, but knew they had to pay for a lot they had THOUGHT they won?

    Would it not then be fair for me as a buyer to bid on say 5 lots I really want, win them all, then say I only want two of them, because I thought there would be a chance some of the winning lots would be taken away from me?

    What IS the auction house rule on this? Shouldnt the sales of individual lots of a set have a disclaimer from Heritage (or whatever house) that "even though you won the lot after all floor, phone, internet, etc. bids, there is a possibility you did not win if the set is sold in its completion after the set's final auction prices realized etc.".

    ----Lloyd >>



    Lloyd I have seen most of the auction companies do this. The lots are lumped together on the web page with an explanation of what the rules are so the bidder is well aware of the guidelines for bidding. Recently I have only seen this done with proof sets.
  • When is this set being auctioned?
  • Thanks, everyone. If this technique is used and you are informed of it BEFORE hand, AND you know pretty quick if you have to buy the individual lot or it sold as a complete set, then O.K. with me.

    SOOOO, TDN, you buying the complete set?image

    ---Lloyd
    The Accumulator - Dark Lloyd of the Sith

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  • << <i>When is this set being auctioned? >>



    I don't know, does anyone else?


  • << <i>

    << <i>When is this set being auctioned? >>

    It will be included in the upcoming Heritage Long Beach sale next month. >>



    thanks!
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭
    roadrunner-I personally would expect the coins will bring more this way than trying to find "a" buyer. But its something we will never knowand interesting to speculate about. My comment was in response to another made that a single buyer would be found out at auction and I don't feel this is necessarily the case. I am sure we all know of sales where a single buyer was represented by more than one bidder.
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