Here's more proof that ICG grades tougher than NGC...

Myqqy

How about some bluemoon coin action to add some perspective...

BigGreek

Where's that hilarious animation of him doing Edgar Allan Poe?

Found it but the link is broken: Veepers animation

keets

Blue Moon Coins is one of those outfits that gives me..................fits. they have a bad habit of listing certain undesignated items with reserves, items that they have no idea are the tougher of two varieties!!! yet they won't respond to offers to buy or divulge their reserve in e-mails. very strange, actually. i've talked with Kenny and usually end up waiting till i can buy an item after multiple listings with no sale at a low price, costing them money and no doubt their consignors some money.

al h.

jonesy

Why would you wanna regrade a 67 Frankie???

MadMarty

They didn't say that the customer dropped the coin after they cracked it out of the NGC holder.

lordmarcovan

What's the paragraph about shipwreck coins doin' there at the top of the page? Is that a shipwreck-pedigreed Franklin half?

KurtHorn

Seems like they got a taste of what I've found. Although it doesn't even look like a 66 to me.

SarasotaFrank

User ID kept private on a proof Franklin currently bid at $2.29 coin??

ummm, ok.

also:

"This coin comes delivered with the NGC tag"

I think that's a typo - shouldn't it be a?

flaminio

I've linked this before, but it seems ontopic here:

ICG 66 = NGC 68

KurtHorn

<< <i>I've linked this before, but it seems ontopic here: ICG 66 = NGC 68 >>



Wow, I would love to do that sometime. Especially with a couple 19th century coins some circ and some unc. I think it would be fascinating. I think the grades came out about as I might expect them to.

kieferscoins

An MS-66 PCGS washington commem is worth like $10. It is no score at all.

Cameron Kiefer

braddick

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<< <i>I've linked this before, but it seems ontopic here: ICG 66 = NGC 68 >>



Wow, I would love to do that sometime. Especially with a couple 19th century coins some circ and some unc. I think it would be fascinating. I think the grades came out about as I might expect them to. >>

Why is it the Washington commemorative shows a white spot, obverse, below the lettering at 11:00 on the PCI and ICG and PCGS but is missing on the NGC?
If the spot had been removed I'd see the coin then going MS68.

kieferscoins

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Why is it the Washington commemorative shows a white spot, obverse, below the lettering at 11:00 on the PCI and ICG and PCGS but is missing on the NGC?
If the spot had been removed I'd see the coin then going MS68. >>



It does look like it was dipped. the coin has the spot in one slab (on the coin and not the slab) and the NGC it is gone.

Cameron Kiefer

flaminio

<< <i>It does look like it was dipped. the coin has the spot in one slab (on the coin and not the slab) and the NGC it is gone. >>

There's a reason for that -- I had NCS give it a scrub-down before NGC slabbed it. I wanted to see how much of a difference washing the spots off would make. IN THEORY, spots like that should not affect the "technical" grade, but clearly in this day and age of market grading, they do.

FWIW, I think ANACS got it right as a 67. I think NGC, even with the cleaning, was too loose with it, and ICG and PCGS too tight. PCI, obviously, had no clue.

dthigpen

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<< <i>It does look like it was dipped. the coin has the spot in one slab (on the coin and not the slab) and the NGC it is gone. >>

There's a reason for that -- I had NCS give it a scrub-down before NGC slabbed it. I wanted to see how much of a difference washing the spots off would make. IN THEORY, spots like that should not affect the "technical" grade, but clearly in this day and age of market grading, they do.

FWIW, I think ANACS got it right as a 67. I think NGC, even with the cleaning, was too loose with it, and ICG and PCGS too tight. PCI, obviously, had no clue. >>



Why do you bother getting your coins professionally graded?

flaminio

<< <i>Wow, I would love to do that sometime. Especially with a couple 19th century coins some circ and some unc. I think it would be fascinating. I think the grades came out about as I might expect them to. >>

I'd love for everyone to do it, just for one coin. Everyone has their favorite coin, or favorite series. The Washington Half happens to be mine. Rather than just listen to a bunch of yutzes on message boards rant on about which service is the best, I decided to do my own test and make my own conclusions. It didn't really cost that much money, but it did take about a year for the coin to wander amongst the various services.

If 30 people here did what I did with a variety of coins, I think we'd have a very clear picture of who grades how -- much more so than the PNG/ICTA survey or any other test that has come before.

flaminio

<< <i>Why do you bother getting your coins professionally graded? >>

Just to vex dorkkarl.

dthigpen

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<< <i>Why do you bother getting your coins professionally graded? >>

Just to vex dorkkarl. >>



Ahhh, Makes sense now.

greymars

Why is there a NGC label over the top of the ICG label? Where is the proof it was cracked out from NGC and regraded under ICG?

dorkkarl

hey! i heard that!!!





























K S

GoYankees

<< <i>I've linked this before, but it seems ontopic here:

ICG 66 = NGC 68 >>



For those who are unfamiliar with PCI...

Note the curved "6" and curved "9" on the green slab...

Real Old Green PCI slabs have pointed 6s and 9s on their inserts.

PCI Slabs