Why doesn't ANACS have a registry?

anablep

I have all ANACS Morgans and would seriously consider a registry set if ANACS supported one. Why do they not have one? Is it being considered?

kieferscoins

<< <i>Is it being considered? >>



No.

Cameron Kiefer

Yousri

What Cam said

anablep

okay....

kieferscoins

<< <i> Why do they not have one? >>



They concentrate on grading. They are small compared to NGC and PCGS. They would need to update their website first (some new "updates" there are dated 2002). They don't have the market share and a registry is not in their future.

Cameron Kiefer

anablep

Thank you!

dthigpen

Their official reason is that they don't have records of all coins they have graded, thus they could not create a complete population report, and in turn, there would be a great deal of problems with a number their graded coins when adding to a registry.

flaminio

<< <i>No. >>

Wow, Cam. I had no idea you were privy to the goings-on inside ANACS. What are you, some kind of honorary VIP there?

kieferscoins

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<< <i>No. >>

Wow, Cam. I had no idea you were privy to the goings-on inside ANACS. What are you, some kind of honorary VIP there? >>



Instead of a snotty or sarcastic reply like the above quote I'll just say that I have asked people @ ANACS and they have said no it is not in the works.

Cameron Kiefer

BigE

You can make your own, like flamino did for his commems---------BigE

flaminio

<< <i>Instead of a snotty or sarcastic reply like the above quote I'll just say that I have asked people @ ANACS and they have said no it is not in the works. >>

Then why didn't you say so? Just saying "No" gives the impression that you have some level of decision-making at ANACS, which is clearly not the case.

And sometimes I like being snotty and sarcastic, thank you.

IrishMike

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<< <i>Instead of a snotty or sarcastic reply like the above quote I'll just say that I have asked people @ ANACS and they have said no it is not in the works. >>

Then why didn't you say so? Just saying "No" gives the impression that you have some level of decision-making at ANACS, which is clearly not the case.

And sometimes I like being snotty and sarcastic, thank you. >>



or it could have been as I took it that he had probably talked to them.

flaminio

<< <i>or it could have been as I took it that he had probably talked to them. >>

Possibly. But every six months or so I get sick of Cammie's attitude and post count, and lash out. I'll go back to being good little Bob in a few hours.

kieferscoins

<< <i>But every six months or so I get sick of Cammie's attitude and post count, and lash out. I'll go back to being good little Bob in a few hours. >>



Understandable. I'm sorry you have post count envy. It means nothing to me.

Cameron Kiefer

keets

hey Cam

still workin' on those people skills, i see. don't give up.

al h.

KurtHorn

I like the idea... I think there's alot of money to be made by the right web page building knowledgeable coin enthusiast. I chatted with ANACS about a registry at the FUN show. They seemed interested. I pointed out that in the same way that they have a niche in the market with their net grading, they could also gain a niche in the registry market through weighted registry set net grading...

Someone go for it... too much work for me.

-Kurt-

dthigpen

<< <i>I like the idea... I think there's alot of money to be made by the right web page building knowledgeable coin enthusiast. I chatted with ANACS about a registry at the FUN show. They seemed interested. I pointed out that in the same way that they have a niche in the market with their net grading, they could also gain a niche in the registry market through weighted registry set net grading...

Someone go for it... too much work for me.

-Kurt- >>



It's impossible for anyone to go for it at this point. ANACS does not have an online database of their graded coins, nor do they even have a complete paper trail of the coins that they graded in the past. Therefore, there is no database to query for coin lookup/verification.

anablep

<< <i>It's impossible for anyone to go for it at this point. ANACS does not have an online database of their graded coins, nor do they even have a complete paper trail of the coins that they graded in the past. Therefore, there is no database to query for coin lookup/verification. >>




Is this just poor planning on ANACS' part or did PCGS & NGC have a jump on them by tracking their submissions in a data base with the intent on starting a registry?

KurtHorn

ANACS does publish a population report. So, putting it on a web site should be merely a matter of building a web page right? Like I said, I think this is an idea just waiting for the right guy who is web savvy and has a numismatic background. If I had the time I would approach ANACS and suggest it.

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dthigpen

<< <i>ANACS does publish a population report. So, putting it on a web site should be merely a matter of building a web page right? Like I said, I think this is an idea just waiting for the right guy who is web savvy and has a numismatic background. If I had the time I would approach ANACS and suggest it.

Edited for SPELLING >>



ANACS has publicly stated that they are missing a large amount of historical data on coins they have graded during their lifetime, at least that is what was told to me and various other people on multiple occasions. I have no idea if the pop counts in their population report are all-inclusive, they may very well be, they do not, however, based on the information provided to me, have individual records of each coin graded with the associated ID numbers neccesary to compile a database to back a registry set. If you have definitive information refuting this, please do correct it, as I have a couple hundred holed coins in ANACS plastic that I'd love to make into a Registry Type Set.

seanq

I have couple of coins in ANACS holders that do not appear in their printed population report. I was told by ANACS customer service that they were probably in the report but without the detailed description. If you ever see an ANACS pop report, they often have several duplicate descriptions for a given variety or error type. I can't imagine any way they'd ever be able to get it organized and standardized to the point they could run a registry.


Sean Reynolds

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Nysoto

What I like about ANACS is that they grade all coins, which is what PCGS and NGC should do. For moderns it does not matter, but for early US coins, some varieties exist only as "problem" coins.

morgannut2

Actually it would be fairly easy for them to put together a website on a limited basis rather than wasting $2000 every month with a big ad in Coin World. They could just list the top 10 series an have a weight assigned from the Coin World Values report, instead of the PCGS and NGC systems which is bizarre in many cases. Plus they could add 10 or so older series pre- 1860 and that would blow open all the PCGS/NGC sets. Why? There are a ton of problem coins that still classics and rare--but no one bothers to get them graded. I think they would be flooded with new material!!

MORGANHUNTER2

I've called anacs 4 times to get certain info on some coins they graded- all I wanted was when they graded the coin- nothing else- this info they had, a few of these coins have such low numbers on them that it left some kind of trail- one was graded back in 89- so for the most part my nice looking 98 morgan in 65 may have been a monster back then, but due in part to the whorish move of both pCGS and NGC- Anacs just sits back - grades them correctly and encases them. I actually prefer Anacs graded coins over the others- but I buy the coin not the plastic.

kieferscoins

<< <i>Actually it would be fairly easy for them to put together a website on a limited basis rather than wasting $2000 every month with a big ad in Coin World. They could just list the top 10 series an have a weight assigned from the Coin World Values report, instead of the PCGS and NGC systems which is bizarre in many cases. Plus they could add 10 or so older series pre- 1860 and that would blow open all the PCGS/NGC sets. Why? There are a ton of problem coins that still classics and rare--but no one bothers to get them graded. I think they would be flooded with new material!! >>



Coin World Trends does not do net grading pricing and it would never work.

Cameron Kiefer

morgannut2

Cameron- Of course Trends prices are for problem free coins--but don't you notice the correspondence of the net grade to the actual auction prices at that net grade? They are in the ballpark in many cases IMHO. But OK, while Trends would be a fairer relative ranking system for pre-1965 coins, there's no requirement that they use Trends pricing as a weight. They couldn't copy NGC due to the low, arbitrary and capricious weights given to many circulated date/mm's, but they might modify the PCGS system fairly easily. The ANACS net grade would just be treated the same as a regular grade in the system and thus encourage the grading of problem older issues. I'm thinking holed Flowing hair coinage here, not whizzed Morgans!!