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Russ doesn't suck! He got some pop top grades!

kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
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"1 21807123 1977 $1 USA MS65
2 21807124 1977 $1 USA MS65
3 21807125 1966 25C SMS USA MS66
4 21807126 1967 5C SMS USA MS66CA
5 21807127 1965 50C SMS USA MS66
6 21807128 1968-D 50C USA MS64
7 21807129 1965 50C SMS USA MS66

Date Received: 11/19/2004
Date Shipped: No Date Specified "

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Cameron Kiefer



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  • Coinhusker1Coinhusker1 Posts: 3,560 ✭
    Clad Ike Dollars???? Must be running out of fresh material!!
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>1968-D 50C USA MS64 >>

    OUCH!!!
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    As the page says...



    << <i>Click for the thrill of victory, or the agony of defeat! >>



    image I wonder what one this order is....
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Those are good grades for Russ. He only waited 2 months and thought most of them would be AU-58 at best. He has a killer eye for quality.image

    Cameron Kiefer
  • JrGMan2004JrGMan2004 Posts: 7,557 ✭
    Ouch! image Russ got screwed image As Marty put it... "Big Stick, No Grease" image
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  • BigEBigE Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭
    Russ has not posted in a while, I hope he is not deadimage-------------BigE
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  • alergaralergar Posts: 420
    All his pop-top coins are why he sucks!!!

    He's to darn lucky image
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Russ is currently on the phone with David Hall discussing his Mech Error... You know the 4 and 7 are right next to each other on the keyboard!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>Russ is currently on the phone with David Hall discussing his Mech Error... You know the 4 and 7 are right next to each other on the keyboard! >>




    I'll bet it's quite an interesting conversation! Most likely an awful loud sucking sound being heard!image
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    The Ikes are not bad.
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    PCGS has their head buried up their ass. There's a difference between tight grading and stupid grading. Hey PCGS! Enough of the "we'll be the toughest even if it means screwing our customers" crap.

    You graders REALLY think THIS is an MS64?

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    "World class" graders, my ass.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Go work for PCGS Russ.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Go work for PCGS Russ.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    I can't. I have a conscience.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • INXSINXS Posts: 1,202 ✭
    I hope we dont have another casualty tonight over this.imageimage:
    "Well here's another nice mess you have gotten me into" Oliver Hardy 1930
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS has their head buried up their ass. >>



    Whine!!! Whine!!!image
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • JxnBoyJxnBoy Posts: 737
    Kind of a dog for a 64, but I'll give you 10% back of sheet for it.
    David
  • relayerrelayer Posts: 10,570 ✭

    Perhaps he's just building a grading set image
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oh my o my o my!
    Pretty little coin. My birthyear too. Hmmm...if they grade them all MS64 and under now, maybe my MS66 will hold/increase its value image

    Russ.......don't become the next sleepy hollow resident now.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,658 ✭✭✭
    Maybe a new Modern Grader just started. They always wax everyone for a few weeks when that happens.
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  • MORGANHUNTER2MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭
    "World class" graders, my ass.

    Russ, NCNE

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    Maybe a new Modern Grader just started. They always wax everyone for a few weeks when that happens

    image You must be joking- New modern graders who are considered 'world class' would never flame a customer. as it was told to me - they grade em like they see them.
  • ClausUrchClausUrch Posts: 1,278 ✭
    The "Big Guy" noticed from your posts that you have been submitting to NGC so he gave the word to "Screw Russ"!
    There is alot to be said of loyalty.image
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>The "Big Guy" noticed from your posts that you have been submitting to NGC so he gave the word to "Screw Russ"!
    There is alot to be said of loyalty.image >>





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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice 1968-D... I am not the Kennedy expert that you are so my opinion may not count for much on that one... just a reminder, there is a Presidential review process for situations whereby there is a disagreement over the assigned grade.

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Pretty good looking 68.image
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  • RGLRGL Posts: 3,784 ✭
    Gads, Russ ... not even close on that '68-D. Been there, done that, just recently ... I think moderns don't even rate the five seconds a side anymore. Heck, I wonder if they even take them out of the flip. Some pretty good graders continue to suffer from the heads up their arse grading at Newport Beach. This has ceased to be an aberration. It's either a misplaced tighten the screws movement or incompetence ... or, even worse, they don't care anymore.
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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162 ✭
    Ouch and "Oh Oh". Lee
  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Hmmm I remember coming back from FUN 2003 and relating in one comment that many of the dealers and collectors thought PCGS was grading tightly and hearing from a couple of you who have posted in this thread how anti-PCGS I was. image
  • ksteelheaderksteelheader Posts: 11,777 ✭


    << <i>Hmmm I remember coming back from FUN 2003 and relating in one comment that many of the dealers and collectors thought PCGS was grading tightly and hearing from a couple of you who have posted in this thread how anti-PCGS I was. image >>




    Time and experience changes the minds of even the most stubborn of us. Even me!image
  • 100proof1957100proof1957 Posts: 6,231 ✭
    I graded that one myself !
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  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    The only two on this submission I agree with are the Ikes - and they aren't even mine. image

    Oh, and line 7 is NOT an SMS coin. I suppose I should have known better since I've been through this "if it looks good stick it in an SMS holder" crap before.

    Russ, NCNE
    eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now I realize I'm fully in the minority here, but is it possible that Kennedy is accurately graded? In your pic I see a dark area on the bottom of the jaw that look like a big break in the luster. I've been told here on the forum many times that PCGS won't give any higher than MS64 to such a coin.

    Last year I submited this 1954 quarter, mark-free with nice tone, and swore up and down it was a lock to go 65 or higher. In the picture I posted here was a dark line along the jawline, and a bunch of people jumped on that and said it would never grade above a 64. PCGS sent it back in a MS64 holder.

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    Take another long hard look at the coin when it gets back, maybe the graders really did see something you didn't.


    Sean Reynolds

    (Edited to add the right picture)
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't that another way to speed up grading though?
    See a "guess the grade" when the coin is on the way to PCGS and they just take the consensus and don't need to waste time?
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    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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