Another plus to having vargha be chairman is that with only one arm he can't skim off as much as those of us with 2. Oh wait , in pc speak he's not "one armed" he's upper limb challenged.
<< <i> "Dude", your outline of property is the same in my state. If it was mine before marriage, inherited, gifts, etc. . . . it is mine. Also, you guys have to understand . . . I'll give her the house, give her the contents, giver her half of my retirement, etc . etc. but . . . she wants all my stuff, too!
You know how bad this is?: I mentioned when I first introduced myself a couple weeks ago on this forum that I went through a serious illness, almost died (Feb. 28). I recovered — for the moment — but the ex and her attorney actually said, "If we wait long enough, you'll die and we'll get everything."
Now if that doesn't make you stand up and fight, nothing will! >>
How much of your collection did me and rest of the guys on here give you for birthdays, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, valentines day, Martin Lther King Day, First day of spring day. first day of summer day, labor day, Memorial day and 4th of july for the last 23 years?
<< <i>I think I'll print out a copy of this thread for future use, if needed!
JEB. >>
Great idea Jeb! On the 23rd of this month I hit the 24th year! I guess I'm in for the long haul now. And she, at least at this point, could care less about my stuff. Heck, I wouldn't mind an estimate of the cost for makeup, hair visits and shoes for 24 years!!!!
I am unmarried, but I still do feel for you. It sounds like divorce proceedings can actually end in a few days if both parties agree to do this and that and end amicably, but there is so much pent up anger that divorce proceedings are used as a last ditch attempt to hurt the other person.
There is no logic in this. The lawyers have a field day with two vengeful people at eachother's throats. Lawyers probably even collude on this thing and are using the two unfortunate parties as chess pieces to milk more money.
I remember hearing that Howard Hughes used the strategy of prolonging court proceedings until the other party got worn out. He had the deep pockets to do this too.
Your ex wife sounds a lot like other divorced women other men have told me about. It sounds like you have one, but I heard it was recommended that men seek a female attorney to handle the divorce proceedings since they will know all the female games that are going to be played. It is very obvious that she has no interest in the baseball cards, but because you like them, she wants to make it tough for you. You have already given her everything else, it would only seem logical that she be so kind in return not to give you a hard time on the baseball stuff.
From reading your posts, you seem to have a clear unemotional approach in all this and I applaud you for that. You did not come on here and started insulting your ex wife and all that.
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
Sometimes it is hard to prove when an item was purchased because a lot of times, there are no receipts or invoices. Sometimes, things are purchased in cash at shows, so it is unreasonable for every single item to be documented.
Besides receipts, what else can be used as proof of purchase? pictures of that Mantle bat in the background taken while you were a single young guy? A video tape made of all the things you owned before you got married? Witnesses that saw you purchase this Babe Ruth card on a certain date? Journal entries? How about a letter you wrote to Sven in Sweden that talks about the Mantle rookie you bought in 1960 (assuming you wrote that letter in 1960 and got married in 1963 for example). So, there are ways of finding out when things were purchased, but will they be permitted in court?
For us never married guys out there, I think the best thing to do is save all the ebay pages onto your computer of the items you won (that proof of purchase without the hassle of dealing with paper---save stuff onto a disk as back up). Catalog all you own and a brief description, including any serial numbers and video tape all your stuff with the date showing up on the video/disk itself. It will be some work to do this, but it will give you a chance to see what you own and appreciate it more. Also, the work put into cataloging and video taping all that stuff right now will help you with any possible insurance claims in case of natural disaster or theft. It can help in divorce, but I wish that would not happen to any of you. Being organized is not a bad thing. After reading all these posts, I am going to do this recording keeping and add to my records with each new collectible I purchase--that is peace of mind!
"So many of our DREAMS at first seem impossible, then they seem improbable, and then, when we SUMMON THE WILL they soon become INEVITABLE "- Christopher Reeve
Having been throught his a few years ago. I hesitate to respond because anything can come back to get you. 1) Hide as much quality stuff as possible, it's amazing how much can go in one box and disappear 2) Bombard the lists to the attorney with low price stuff, get loads of 90's basketball 3) DELETE ALL FROM SET REGISTRY 4) Hide more 5) Bend Over, beg for a lubricant 6) Do better than me, despite following 1-5, I still lost alot of my IRA to get my cards free and clear.
BUT, It's only money, cards, etc. The bitsch ain't worth it. I am now much happier. Hopefully, her lawyer won't see this.
The best, fairest way to get a value without selling is to get recent ebay sales of each item. That really pissed off my ex and her attorney, suddenly they were in a mood to negotaite fairly, a first. We only made it through about 15 items before they backed off. Bob
Staged robbery? That seems to solve all problems (for billa anyhow). Maybe even get the WIFE to pay for half of the collection that was stolen, because it was lost in her care?
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Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
JEB.
<< <i>
"Dude", your outline of property is the same in my state. If it was mine before marriage, inherited, gifts, etc. . . . it is mine. Also, you guys have to understand . . . I'll give her the house, give her the contents, giver her half of my retirement, etc . etc. but . . . she wants all my stuff, too!
You know how bad this is?: I mentioned when I first introduced myself a couple weeks ago on this forum that I went through a serious illness, almost died (Feb. 28). I recovered — for the moment — but the ex and her attorney actually said, "If we wait long enough, you'll die and we'll get everything."
Now if that doesn't make you stand up and fight, nothing will! >>
How much of your collection did me and rest of the guys on here give you for birthdays, Christmas, Easter, Halloween, valentines day, Martin Lther King Day, First day of spring day. first day of summer day, labor day, Memorial day and 4th of july for the last 23 years?
<< <i>I think I'll print out a copy of this thread for future use, if needed!
JEB. >>
Great idea Jeb!
On the 23rd of this month I hit the 24th year! I guess I'm in for the long haul now. And she, at least at this point, could care less about my stuff.
Heck, I wouldn't mind an estimate of the cost for makeup, hair visits and shoes for 24 years!!!!
your friend
Mike
I am unmarried, but I still do feel for you. It sounds like divorce proceedings can actually end in a few days if both parties agree to do this and that and end amicably, but there is so much pent up anger that divorce proceedings are used as a last ditch attempt to hurt the other person.
There is no logic in this. The lawyers have a field day with two vengeful people at eachother's throats. Lawyers probably even collude on this thing and are using the two unfortunate parties as chess pieces to milk more money.
I remember hearing that Howard Hughes used the strategy of prolonging court proceedings until the other party got worn out. He had the deep pockets to do this too.
Your ex wife sounds a lot like other divorced women other men have told me about. It sounds like you have one, but I heard it was recommended that men seek a female attorney to handle the divorce proceedings since they will know all the female games that are going to be played. It is very obvious that she has no interest in the baseball cards, but because you like them, she wants to make it tough for you.
You have already given her everything else, it would only seem logical that she be so kind in return not to give you a hard time on the baseball stuff.
From reading your posts, you seem to have a clear unemotional approach in all this and I applaud you for that. You did not come on here and started insulting your ex wife and all that.
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
Besides receipts, what else can be used as proof of purchase? pictures of that Mantle bat in the background taken while you were a single young guy? A video tape made of all the things you owned before you got married? Witnesses that saw you purchase this Babe Ruth card on a certain date? Journal entries?
How about a letter you wrote to Sven in Sweden that talks about the Mantle rookie you bought in 1960 (assuming you wrote that letter in 1960 and got married in 1963 for example). So, there are ways of finding out when things were purchased, but will they be permitted in court?
For us never married guys out there, I think the best thing to do is save all the ebay pages onto your computer of the items you won (that proof of purchase without the hassle of dealing with paper---save stuff onto a disk as back up). Catalog all you own and a brief description, including any serial numbers and video tape all your stuff with the date showing up on the video/disk itself. It will be some work to do this, but it will give you a chance to see what you own and appreciate it more. Also, the work put into cataloging and video taping all that stuff right now will help you with any possible insurance claims in case of natural disaster or theft. It can help in divorce, but I wish that would not happen to any of you. Being organized is not a bad thing. After reading all these posts, I am going to do this recording keeping and add to my records with each new collectible I purchase--that is peace of mind!
BST: Tennessebanker, Downtown1974, LarkinCollector, nendee
1) Hide as much quality stuff as possible, it's amazing how much can go in one box and disappear
2) Bombard the lists to the attorney with low price stuff, get loads of 90's basketball
3) DELETE ALL FROM SET REGISTRY
4) Hide more
5) Bend Over, beg for a lubricant
6) Do better than me, despite following 1-5, I still lost alot of my IRA to get my cards free and clear.
BUT, It's only money, cards, etc. The bitsch ain't worth it. I am now much happier. Hopefully, her lawyer won't see this.
Goods and cash must be protected.
RobBob
MDK=Moma Don't Know