Tabbed Toning on Commemoratives

cosmicdebris

What do you guys think f the toning on THIS NORFOLK?

Louis

Not my cup of tea.

nwcs

real and ugly -- to me.

BigE

There is something unique about the toning, but i wouldn't call it tab toning, worth 10 bucks but these are readily available nice. I bet if you dipped it, it would be an AU coin----------------BigE

mgoodm3

Too dark for me.

majorbigtime

That ain't tab toning IMO!

coinguy1

That is assuredly tab toning, which can range from unattractive to gorgeous. That particular toning looks to be dark, unattractive and bordering on "environmental damage". It is not especially unusual as such.

XpipedreamR

rainbowroosie

damaged

robertpr

meos1

Its heavy. The target is interesting but lacks the wild colors needed to be attractive.

Clankeye

What Coinguy1 said.

I like a lot of tab toning. I think it's interesting, and can be attractive. This particular piece doesn't appeal to me, though.

Clankeye

FatMan

Yuck, looks like it was stored with rotten eggs.

Too bad, Norfolks usually drip with luster.

Shamika

While I love tab toning on commemoratives, that is WAAAAAAAAAY more than I like to see!

cosmicdebris

I definitely agree with the majority, however, a friend of mine needed some convincing that this sucker is damn ugly and should be dipped.

Shamika

I'm afraid that a dip won't do much for this coin. The toning is so deep, it likely has damaged the luster.

Then again, it can't look much worse than it already does.

FatMan

It would make a nice pocket piece. It would make for interesting toning patterns as the surfaces get worn.

Cameonut

LanLord

Something doesn't look correct for that one.

Maybe it's truely tab toned, but it looks funky.

Clankeye

<< <i>that this sucker is damn ugly and should be dipped. >>



I don't find it that attractive, but I still wouldn't dip it.

Somebody out there is going to like that coin just the way it is. Why not leave it for someone who would appreciate it? If your friend wants a white Norfolk there are already plenty of them out there.

Clankeye

BigE

It's rediculous to call this coin tab toned, maybe it was before someone dug it out of a flooded basement------BigE

MFH

After collecting coins for more years than I'd care to mention ( Again ) I have never really had frequent access to original commems in their original holders of issue.

Were most / all / some ... of these coins issued in cardboard holders that would have been the type of holders to produce " tab toned " coins ?

I know tht some series were issued in these tab type holders... but which ones wern't ?

MrEureka

Cosmic - Thanks for the lead!

cosmicdebris

I see someone likes it.

coinguy1

<< <i>It's rediculous to call this coin tab toned, maybe it was before someone dug it out of a flooded basement------ >>


BigE - There is nothing ridiculous (or even incorrect) about calling the coin tab-toned. It IS tab-toned. Don't confuse tab-toned with attractive or beautiful tab-toned.

"Tab-toned" merely refers to the pattern (not the colors) of toning caused by storage in the original holder.

Edited to add: "A variant term is so-called tab toning, applied exclusively to commemorative silver. Many 1930s commemoratives were sent to their original buyers in small cardboard holders. The coins were kept in place by a paper or cardboard band or tab. After decades in this style of holder a commemorative will achieve distinctive toning, deeper in the exposed areas but nearly fully brilliant where protected from the air by the tab and surrounding cardboard. Such original color is often referred to as tab toning."



<< <i>Were most / all / some ... of these coins issued in cardboard holders that would have been the type of holders to produce " tab toned " coins ? >>

Mike, off the top of my head, below is a list of commemoratives I THINK I recall having seen with tab-toning. Please note, there is nearly a 100% probability that my list omits issues that can be found with tab toning and incorrectly includes some that aren't found with tab toning. Hopefully others can correct this list:

Albany
Antietam
Arkansas
Bay Bridge
Boone
Bridgeport
Cincinnati
Cleveland
Columbia
Connecticut
Elgin
Gettysburg
Iowa
Long Island
Lynchburg
New Rochelle
Norfolk
Oregon
Rhode Island
Roanoke
Robinson
San Diego
Stone Mountain
Texas
BTW
Wisconsin
York

BigE

Mark, I don't think BTW's come tab toned--------------------BigE

coinguy1

<< <i>Mark, I don't think BTW's come tab toned--------------------BigE >>

BigE - they do. You can either trust me on that or make me work to find one to show you.

BigE

How can there be tab-toned ones when they were shipped only in cards with stapled celophane or cards with a press type holder?-------------BigE

cosmicdebris

Someone could have put it in an old tabbed holder.

coinguy1

BigE, do a Google search (under "tab toned BTW" or "tab toned Booker..") and you will find numerous references to them (and I know I have seen many). I was trying to find a good image for you too, but have not had any luck yet.

BigE

Interesting point Bill, say a collector takes his New Rochelle commem out of it's original tabbed holder in 1947, and puts a fresh Booker T in there for safe keeping and the Booker develops nice toning-is it original tab-toned?-------BigE

BigE

Mark, here is the closest thing I could find on Google--------------------------BigE

Tonelover

I have a Norfolk which on the surface isn't all that special. But one day when I was reading the online article "Virtues of Toned Coins" by Mark Salzburg, the piece pictured in the article struck me as being vaguely familiar.

Article

Here's the one in the article:


Here's mine:


Different lighting but it's the same coin.

Newmismatist

<< <i>That is assuredly tab toning, which can range from unattractive to gorgeous. That particular toning looks to be dark, unattractive and bordering on "environmental damage". It is not especially unusual as such. >>

cosmicdebris

Booker T And The Mgs Tabs

ccex

<< <i>Booker T And The Mgs Tabs >>



Here is my Booker T and George WC tab-toned 1954-S commemorative. Cheap and raw from a recent show, but I like it anyway. (Graded by the dealer as AU-58 $13)

BigE

ccex, that Carver has a great look! I think it was held in an album with a piece of tape, I like the 2 toned toning-------------------BigE

cosmicdebris

$255.00 with over 3 hours to go.

tmot99

I saw that auction too as I was searching for a toned Bay Bridge. When I saw that coin, only one word came to mind. Yuck.