I suppose all the Expert-Texperts are gone? Well, like i was alway's told, " Never Miss the Forest, Looking For The Three's"......... Bifocal's for those with Fecalocutosis.......
Totally wrong shape to be the top bar from a three, ozzy. Looks like a dropped letter (or in this case number) error to me.
RELLA
Do not fall into the error of the artisan who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft while in fact he has had only one year of experience... twenty times.
What i am saying is that this 1944 Lincoln was actually a 1943 that somehow ended up getting restruck. if you look closely you can see there are several 3's in different areas in the fields and in the legends, The first cent is a different one from the rest of the pics. seem's as though everyone is looking at the obvious, rather than looking beyond the end of their nose, Just keep an open mind and try studying it. Instead of just seeing the date, open your eyes and your mind.
I think you're just having vision problems ozzy...I have posted a close-up image of the date area of a perfectly normal 1947-D Lincoln Cent for you to look at; if you see anything that doesn't look right to you I would urge you to schedule an appointment with your eye doctor immediately!
RELLA
Do not fall into the error of the artisan who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft while in fact he has had only one year of experience... twenty times.
What i am saying is that this 1944 Lincoln was actually a 1943 that somehow ended up getting restruck. if you look closely you can see there are several 3's in different areas in the fields and in the legends, The first cent is a different one from the rest of the pics. seem's as though everyone is looking at the obvious, rather than looking beyond the end of their nose, Just keep an open mind and try studying it. Instead of just seeing the date, open your eyes and your mind.
You asked for humble opinions-here's mine: You have quite an imagination there, son.
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So, -- it was a 1943 -- struck multiple time in 43 (thus all the 3s) -- on a wrong planchet -- then resturck in 1944 -- alignmened perfectly so the 44 overlays the 43 -- and found by you?
You could be seeing some sort of flow lines. By magnifying to that extent, I think you see the pours in the copper.
Just think of the odds.
1943 cent first struck in copper 1943 copper cent restruck in 1944
if a 1943 was restruck in 1944 it should be a steel cent.
I have to go with something other than restruck a year later. If you really think it is, sent it off to ANACS for certification. They will be able to sort it out.
Good luck if it is what you think it is!
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
I think it was nice of your son to finally share some of the good stuff with you.
Seriously - there are flow lines all over that coin, and if you squint you can make them look like anything you want. There's just no plausible way for the coin to be what you think it is.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
<< <i>I think you're just having vision problems ozzy...I have posted a close-up image of the date area of a perfectly normal 1947-D Lincoln Cent for you to look at; if you see anything that doesn't look right to you I would urge you to schedule an appointment with your eye doctor immediately!
RELLA >>
Now *this* is a neat coin. My guess is either a multiple strike or counterclash. Do you have pics of other parts of the obverse?
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
<< <i>Did this coin get graded/authenticated yet? >>
No reason for anyone to get excited, it went to PCGS. On top of the wait, they don't do varieties. It was the wrong place to send it. Any grading service was the wrong place to send it, unless you want to know the grade, period. I don't think that was the question here. As was mentioned in other threads, it should have gone to an attributor.
But since it did go to a grading service, why not have a guess the grade contest?
Edited to ask: to whoever filled out the form, what exactly did you put down to indicate to PCGS's graders that it was a variety or whatever? Did you put exactly what is being claimed here?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I think you're really stretching it a bit if you think any of us can see the letter "pi", but the 5 and 67 are definitely there.
Really!
I can see it!
I really can see it! >>
No, I can't see pi there - it was just a continuation of the joke, since I can either barely or not at all see any of the other digits supposed to be on the coin. Although, now that you mention, maybe I can see it...
Thanks, guess they wanted us to beg for the info. And of course for two reasons: it was not what was claimed, and pcgs was not the place to send it for that determination. Geez.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Look on the bright side - when ozzysdad comes back here and complains that the PCGS graders must be blind, this time he might get a few people to agree with him.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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1944.
Russ, NCNE
(How's that for sarcasm?)
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
Glenn
Glenn
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
I see a "maybe" 43 under Lincolns chin and a 3 within the last 4 on the date.
edit: Is this on two coins or just one? The date looks strong on one while the other looks flat on the other.
You asked for humble opinions-here's mine: You have quite an imagination there, son.
-- it was a 1943
-- struck multiple time in 43 (thus all the 3s)
-- on a wrong planchet
-- then resturck in 1944
-- alignmened perfectly so the 44 overlays the 43
-- and found by you?
Doubtful.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Just think of the odds.
1943 cent first struck in copper
1943 copper cent restruck in 1944
if a 1943 was restruck in 1944 it should be a steel cent.
I have to go with something other than restruck a year later.
If you really think it is, sent it off to ANACS for certification. They will be able to sort it out.
Good luck if it is what you think it is!
President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay
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I think we're just seeing the flow lines because of such an extreme magnification.
I think it was nice of your son to finally share some of the good stuff with you.
Seriously - there are flow lines all over that coin, and if you squint you can make them look like anything you want. There's just no plausible way for the coin to be what you think it is.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
<< <i>I think you're just having vision problems ozzy...I have posted a close-up image of the date area of a perfectly normal 1947-D Lincoln Cent for you to look at; if you see anything that doesn't look right to you I would urge you to schedule an appointment with your eye doctor immediately!
RELLA >>
Now *this* is a neat coin. My guess is either a multiple strike or counterclash. Do you have pics of other parts of the obverse?
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Chris
That's pretty funny......
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I think we're just seeing the flow lines because of such an extreme magnification. >>
You missed one:
<< <i>Did this coin get graded/authenticated yet? >>
No reason for anyone to get excited, it went to PCGS. On top of the wait, they don't do varieties. It was the wrong place to send it. Any grading service was the wrong place to send it, unless you want to know the grade, period. I don't think that was the question here. As was mentioned in other threads, it should have gone to an attributor.
But since it did go to a grading service, why not have a guess the grade contest?
Edited to ask: to whoever filled out the form, what exactly did you put down to indicate to PCGS's graders that it was a variety or whatever? Did you put exactly what is being claimed here?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Gonfunko,
I think you're really stretching it a bit if you think any of us can see the letter "pi", but the 5 and 67 are definitely there.
Really!
I can see it!
I really can see it!
jim
<< <i>Gonfunko,
I think you're really stretching it a bit if you think any of us can see the letter "pi", but the 5 and 67 are definitely there.
Really!
I can see it!
I really can see it! >>
No, I can't see pi there - it was just a continuation of the joke, since I can either barely or not at all see any of the other digits supposed to be on the coin. Although, now that you mention, maybe I can see it...
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grades are in >>
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Russ, NCNE
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
For those who are looking for the submission number, 3136201
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor