Is this DMPL Morgan torched, or is it just a bad Picture?

Coinhusker1

78 Morgan DMPL

I suspect its shake n bake, but the photos look funny (as does the other toned coins listed by this seller). Perhaps someone has some experience with this seller and can provide perspective.

If its AT, what a shame that a nice DMPL was ruined.

Stuart

CoinHusker: I am not an expert on toned Morgans, however (in my opinion) the shape of the crescent on this
particular coin does not look round enough (i.e. not properly curve shaped) to be a naturally toned coin.

I'll be interested to see what the toned coin experts have to say and if they concur with my opinion.

DRUNNER

I always get nervous when they can't spell "crescent".

The spectrum looks accurate, but that gray area out to the rim is a unique color . . . looks like excessive heat . . .

It does not resemble anything toned I have . . . even if it goes 'through the spectrum' to black . . .I have not seen that gray color before . . .

DRUNNER

ibzman350

I'm no expert but I'm with Stuart on this one !

Pictures of a blow torch come to mind.


Herb

Wolf359

I always get nervous when they can't spell "crescent".

FC57Coins

First of all - crescents don't usually happen on both sides of the coin, secondly, that coin has been turned toward the light to give a more "flawless" look to the coin, third, if it was such a great coin, it'd be in a slab by now... So - I'd pass on that bad girl.

kieferscoins

Coinhusker1

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A coin is a terrible thing to waste!!!

jdsinva

<< <i>First of all - crescents don't usually happen on both sides of the coin, secondly, that coin has been turned toward the light to give a more "flawless" look to the coin, third, if it was such a great coin, it'd be in a slab by now... So - I'd pass on that bad girl. >>





The shape of the toning seems to be identical on both sides, like some kind of form was used to cover the coin. Further, I would think for two-sided toing, that the toning is on the wrong side on the reverse to match the obverse.

Jeff

Newmismatist

Heat applied to the edge with a propane torch - a little more pinpoint on the flame than the above picture That's why it's "toned" on both sides - you will occasionally find NT Morgans with Crescents on both sides - but the look quite different than this "hack" job.

sadysta1

careful with this seller, he's known to "improve" the pictures

nwcs

Sure don't look real to me.

Coinhusker1

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<< <i>First of all - crescents don't usually happen on both sides of the coin, secondly, that coin has been turned toward the light to give a more "flawless" look to the coin, third, if it was such a great coin, it'd be in a slab by now... So - I'd pass on that bad girl. >>





The shape of the toning seems to be identical on both sides, like some kind of form was used to cover the coin. Further, I would think for two-sided toing, that the toning is on the wrong side on the reverse to match the obverse.

Jeff >>



Yeah, this appears to be a real hack job. Real crescent toning has a perfectly round crescent from another coin being on top of it in the mint bag. The coin was probably tilted because the edge of the coin was singed badly.

What is horrifying about this is that the coin has a very nice strike, and might have truly been DMPL -- thus what may have been a nice coin to being with was turned into junk silver in an attempt to 'improve" it with artificial toning. Truly a shame.

BillJones

I don’t like the blue-gray color on the edge of both sides one bit. It does not look natural. It’s also too even and too uniform on both sides to really be true. I vote AT. Stay away from this one.

anablep

I purchased my icon coin from this seller. No problems at all. Still, I'd stay away from this one. Doesn't look right; should be more rim toning around the coin on one side rather than the same patter on both.

airplanenut

If nothing else, here is one thing that, to me, gives it away--the color continues from the fields to the devices without change. Almost always, the color will change, as the distance from the source of toning will be different (that's why, for example, a lot of morgans with toning through LIBERTY will have different colors in the letters). This coin doesn't follow that rule anywhere, and, if nothing else, just looks wrong. No doubt in my mind it's a chemical and heat job.

Jeremy

Hadleydog

Really, really bad at job.
Of course, it could be Mt Pinatabu toned!

K6AZ

This coin is so obviously cooked it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Ryana