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I know this question might seem a little broad. I am curious though. Im getting ready to myself, buy a really rare coin, now of course it's not going to be a super ultra rarity from the American series, it's going to be a really rare Civil War token. These usually range from about $1,000-$20,000 depending on demand. Any comments?
Scott Hopkins
-YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.

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  • ldhairldhair Posts: 7,232 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have to look at it and say wow, I love this coinimage
    Larry

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't buy anything for my collection unless the coin puts a smile on my face.
    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

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  • Something that makes it stand out from all the rest.It has to be unique.
  • dthigpendthigpen Posts: 3,932 ✭✭
    It has to have a hole in it.
  • RonyahskiRonyahski Posts: 3,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One that fits in my overall plan for building a collection. It still has to be aesthetically appealing - for me, that includes attractive toning. I won' buy a coin that is blah soley because it is rare.
    Some refer to overgraded slabs as Coffins. I like to think of them as Happy Coins.
  • If I bought something that expensive, I'd be afraid it would start flaking after a week at my house. So, it would have to be real and very worth the money - either worth it in scarcity(need it for your collection), eye appeal(love it!) or value(investment).
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  • 1040taxman1040taxman Posts: 153 ✭✭✭
    The coin has to have that one-two punch (rarity and eye appeal).Good Luck!


  • << <i>I don't buy anything for my collection unless the coin puts a smile on my face. >>



    I am the same way, thats why I havnt botherd with morgans, image
  • gemtone65gemtone65 Posts: 901 ✭✭✭
    I ask myself "If I show this piece to someone who knows nothing about rare coins, will their first reaction be 'Wow!'."
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fits my plan and makes my heart skip a beat.

    Sounds like a cool token. Is it the hunting dogs in gold??imageimage
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is it the hunting dogs in gold >>



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    You better grab your icon token!! I was over there looking at those yesterday. If that didn't have that hole in it, It would be mine!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Eye appeal for the grade is very important to me. If I don't care for the general look of the coin or token, I don't bother to go any further.

    BTW what Civil War Token do you need? $20 grand sounds like a world's record price to me.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It should tell a great story.

    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Eye Appeal, Rarity, and originality. Interestingly, even though I buy for my own enjoyment, this type of coin often gets a WOW from other knowledgeable collectors of my series. That's when it's OK to pay 2X "too much"!
    morgannut2
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What holder it's in. And whether it's a new or old holder is most important. That way I can come on here and describe the holder more than the coin.
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  • This has been said before by others, but if there's anything about the coin that bothers you (small spot or mark for example), it will only bother you more and more as time goes on. In other words, go with your gut, don't talk yourself into buying it just because its rare.
  • NysotoNysoto Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you know it is actually rare? Rarity ratings are often overstated due to lack of information, old data, or dealer hype. Talk to the leading expert in the series and get their opinion on rarity.

    How frequent does it appear in auctions and mail bids sales? Have you researched the series?

    For my own series, if the coin is truly rare R.6 or higher, you may only get an opportunity once every three years or so. The rarity itself can make the coin appealing. Grade is less important, but I would much rather have a coin that is fairly original, as a worn but original rarity has a lot of character.

    Bill
    Robert Scot: Engraving Liberty - biography of US Mint's first chief engraver
  • Lakesammman, I wish I could just look at one of those. Eagle Eye has the one in silver which is a great token and totally killer in appeal, but is too much at the current time.

    goose3, Maybe my icon will be the token I buy. I've been looking at that one for quite some time.image They usually come with the holes in them, most of the Wealth of the South or pro south peices were holed.

    BillJones, Im not in any need for a particular token. I am if you remember still working on my R-1 collection. I believe there are 87 that I am in need of. Yes twenty grand is a record price, set by the hunting dogs in copper, talk to Bret I believe he's the one who sold it.image

    Nysoto, you are exactally right, that's what im doing now. I've found most of the R-8's an R-9's that are actually R-7's and the R-7's that are actually R-9's. But to most who one would buy cwt's from, this is common knowledge and prices are already expensive.
    Scott Hopkins
    -YN Currently Collecting & Researching Colonial World Coins, Especially Spanish Coins, With a Great Interest in WWII Militaria.

    My Ebay!
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    First and foremost, for that much money, the coin has to *wow* me relative to the price. I wouldn't spend $2,000 on a $2,000 coin, or even a $2,500 coin, unless I looked at it and on first AND subsequent impressions, I told myself I wanted it in my collection.

    If it doesn't grab you on first impression, your best bet is probably to pass.

    Don't buy the coin on first impression. And also, don't let a coin "grow on you" when you didn't like it at first. Chances are, the reason you didn't like it at first will resurface and make you question your purchase. Make sure you like it on first impression, AND on subsequent viewings once the "honeymoon" has worn off. I have some coins I liked at first but grew to view as bad purchases. (But I've never had a coin I didn't like at first, bought later, and continued to like. First impressions are usually right.)
  • flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    First thing I take into account is how much my wife is going to kick my ass when she finds out...
  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>First thing I take into account is how much my wife is going to kick my ass when she finds out... >>

    I've reminded my wife, with mostly success, that *my* hobbies tend to retain their value (if not gain) over time. Shoe shopping doesn't do that. :-)

    This summer, I had far less trouble convincing her to let me buy an XF 1877 IHC than I expected. Once I realized that, it was still easier moving forward. And as I said -- if she thought I was wasting money on my "hobby," I'd ask her to compare her "hobbies" to mine and see what each of us has to show for them in ten years. image

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