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1969 S D/D Lincoln

Hello all,

Pcgs price guide show a very large sum for a 1969 S D/D. I have a ms 64/65 1969 S. My question is: Where was this D/D on this particular lincoln and what do you need to see it?
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Check out this auction, they have nice pictures of it---DDO
    Becky
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭

  • That is not a true doubled die coin. It is strike doubling....
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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Very confusing seeing the "D/D" because that typically signifies a D mintmark over a D mintmark, an RPM. Doubled dies are typically given the abbreviation DDO or DDR depending on whether they are obverse or reverse respecitvely. Just a note to help out.
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  • "Check out this auction, they have nice pictures of it..."

    That is a strike doubled POS worth about $5 image

    By 69-S D/D you mean doubled die & NOT D/D - right? image

  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Check out this auction, they have nice pictures of it---DDO >>



    A good example of what's NOT a doubled die. On the 1969S DDO, PCGS would have indicated it as such on the slab. The 1969S DDO is one of the most visible doubled dies in all US Coins.
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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭


    << <i><STRONG>"Check out this auction, they have nice pictures of it..."

    </STRONG>That is a strike doubled POS worth about $5 image

    By 69-S D/D you mean doubled die & NOT D/D - right? image >>



    I'm not even sure where you get $5 out of that when an entire roll is far less than $5. I have about a thousand of them at that grade I'd happily sell at 50 cents each.
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  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Oh...and BTW RBinTex, the photos of the 69S DDO you posted are very nice.
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  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Hey!!! He's a powerseller, he wouldn't lieimage. Well, at least we got to see a real oneimage
    Becky
  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
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    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
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    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • What a scam! Can we alert ebay or something? Will they delete fraudulent auctions like that now?
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that is one He11 of a coin Rella.image
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Nocerino18Nocerino18 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭
    How much is the 1969 S DDO worth in UNC?


    Just wondering.

    Also what are some other valuable errors on wheats besides the 55 double die? And what are they worth approx?
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  • I think 5 figures at least, maybe 50K or something for an ms64rd. The owner of an ms65rd has turned down $200,000 for it.

    Other Wheats (I don't collect varieties, so others might have better pricing info)
    1917 DDO also five figured in RD uncirc, I know the owner of an ms67rd has turned down $150K
    1922 no D is five figures in uncirc I believe
    1943 copper cents can be 6 figures
    1944 steel cents are 5 figures
    1955 DDO in ms65rd are > $35K I think
  • coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Also what are some other valuable errors on wheats besides the 55 double die? And what are they worth approx? >>



    Hmm...well, first in explaining I would have to bring up the fact that doubled dies are not classified as "errors," they are "die varieties." Errors are a totally different class of collecting.

    As for doubled dies, there are a number of them that command some value, one would first have to know what you classify as "valuable." If it's $10,000 you have a pretty much complete list above. If it's $1,000 there are some missing from the list above. If it's $100, there are a LOT missing from the list above.

    A couple I would definitely add to the list of most valuable are the 1970S DDO#1, the 1958P DDO#1, and the 1972P DDO#1. In higher uncirculated grades all three of these bring well over a thousand.

    If your definition of "valuable" is $100 or more, I could list at least a hundred of them in the Lincoln cent series alone that command such values in various grades, mostly GEM BU or higher. Some of them are well known, others are quite obscure.
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  • BTW, since no one has mentioned it yet, the REAL (unlike the one in the pic in the eBay auction linked above) 69-S DDO #1, FS-028, DOES NOT have a doubled mintmark. IF one day one were found and attributed as such it would be an RPM & NOT part of the doubling.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Pop 1 MS-64RD PCGS 1958 Doubled die.
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  • How easy is it to see the ddo with the naked eye?
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  • << <i>How easy is it to see the ddo with the naked eye? >>





    Looks pretty easy...


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  • Let's try this again. How easy is it to see a DDO with the naked eye in it's natural size and not blown up 500 times?
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  • EXTREMELY
  • Let's try this again. You must be really dense if you can't extrapolate an image in your head from that photo. Best to have someone else check any possible 69S DDO for you.


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  • RELLARELLA Posts: 961 ✭✭✭
    Do not fall into the error of the artisan
    who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
    while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
    twenty times.
  • Thank you Rella....That helps when you see the actual coin size and able to zoom in on the ddo. All newbie are dense I believe when they have no idea what they're looking at. But you do find people who are willing to help.
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  • Let's just say that the doubling on that coin is shocking, and it's about as obvious as it's ever going to get if you've got one!


    Newbies that try to get smart are going to get a spanking image



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  • Yes it's very obvious at that size. Spankings....hmmm...not interested but thank you.....image
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  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭
    Blastpak, is that your ebay auction?
  • sonofagunksonofagunk Posts: 1,349 ✭✭
    Anyone see the one (69 DDO for real) at David lawrence for $36K (AU58BN). Didn't that just sell a couple of months ago for $22K at B&M?

  • Shortsleeved (Louis Mo) sold one on eBay for $25,000
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭



  • Scam eBay auction now over 10k! image
  • Smoebody is gonna be really pissed !

    10 K for this ?

    I have 40 of them 2 feet away !
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  • TWQG no this is not my auction. I happened to find a 1969 S lincoln in ms 65 grade and just didn't know how noticable the DDO was. Unfortunatly it is not image.
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  • << <i>I have 40 of them 2 feet away ! >>



    Ok, I'll bite and call BULL! Show us!

    Cameron Kiefer
  • Cam,

    I really dont see the machine double on that coin !

    I do have 40 of them 2 feet away from an OBW roll i just looked through,sent 10 to my buddy for his opinion and the best one is at PCGS as we speak,likely will go 65-66.

    I also have an OBW roll of 69'Ds

    Proof
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  • Sure, Please post the submission when the grades come back and you have 1 coin worth $30K or and another 39 at home. I want to believe you but it is hard.

    Cameron Kiefer
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    The DLRC AU58 might be this Heritage coin that sold for 7K in 1999, it has the same marks under the memorial as described in that auction. Nice price jump, but hasn't everything rare in this series been a great investment over the past 5 years?
  • Cam,

    Never said i had a real DDO.

    If i did,i would have walked it through PCGS,i live 50 miles away from them.

    The auction coin is a load of crap and i have 50 just like it,i dont see the machine double on that coin and i didnt search mine for the minor ddo,i just dont give a rats azz about it.

    I'm just saying some fool is getting ripped off ! and notice the bidders id's are blocked ?

    Smell a shill here ?
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  • Cam,

    The invoice number is posted on the super secret web page,everybody will know when it comes back !
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  • Would'nt it be cool to talk to the mint employee that discovered the die ?
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have sent the seller an email that I expect him to shut down this auction by Monday 9am. If it is not done, I will taking legal remedies at 9am Monday to make sure the auction does get shut down.

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  • You going to sue him? What legal remedies?

    Cameron Kiefer
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    This has ended up being a very interesting thread. I saw the same coin selling raw this morning on eBay for $1.75. 2 different sellers, 2 totally different results. 1 thief, 1 honest seller-----
    Becky
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cameron:

    They are legal remedies. I told the seller exactly what I plan to do. I cannot be more specific here for obvious reasons.
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  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭

  • Nope that not like mine...figures. I should know not to get too excited the way my family luck runs.image
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,953 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I emailed him and expressed that I would resort to legal remedies if he did not correct his listing.

    Apparently, the seller realized that the coin was not a doubled die after all and corrected his listing.

    Mission accomplished.


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