Probably wise to have pocket pieces that you can actually spend in case of emergency. But I think I'm going to go back to my Marshall Islands piece from a few posts ago (Aug. 01, 2012!? holy batman where does the time go?!?). The pillar dollar knife thing is neat, and practical I suppose, but I only have one. If I loose it ... gone. Conversely, I've got a bunch of the Marshall Islands type so it's not a huge deal if it falls out at the movie theater. Though I'll probably be flipping it around my fingers so that's not really an issue.
I carry an 1820 Portuguese 10 Reis piece that is worn smooth. I got in a grab bag, thought it was cool and started carrying it. I finally found out what it was when I asked John K what it was, and he rattled it off by just seeing the ghosts of the monarch and the globe on the reverse. The man is just amazing!
Very nice! Congratulations on the portuguese 40 Réis, its the rarest type of those (really, really rare), KM#371 (Oval shield with Joao VI as King of Portugal) and it looks a 1823 to me.
Jose
<< <i>I grabbed these a month ago for 3$ each at the place I buy silver. I like them but if they are both in the same pocket it makes me walk funny.
A ten year thread with my alt id syraq posting too?
I still carry holed pocket pieces in every single key ring of mine: my favorite, a genuine 1833 Greek 5 drs crown that started as an about VF and is now a VG-aF, very shiny, an Umberto 5 lire silver crown for another set of keys, better preserved due to less use of these keys, a copper holed Greek 1869 10 lepta and lately a few 1833-1834 holed Greek minors which aren't very practical to use in key rings because they can barely fit the rings. Lordmarcovan's bust half went to my collection.
<< <i>Very nice! Congratulations on the portuguese 40 Réis, its the rarest type of those (really, really rare), KM#371 (Oval shield with Joao VI as King of Portugal) and it looks a 1823 to me.
Jose
<< <i>I grabbed these a month ago for 3$ each at the place I buy silver. I like them but if they are both in the same pocket it makes me walk funny.
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It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way.
I carry two. A 2008 Daniel Carr token depicting the banking fiasco as well as one which commemorates the decommissioning of the Navy ship I served aboard.
A bird sitting on a tree is never afraid of the branch breaking because it's trust is not in the branch but it's own wings.
<< <i> It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way. >>
A lot of them are struck poorly, and they wheight a bit all over the place since they were mainly emergency coins, but usually between 28 and 40 grams, it really looks to me that the last digit is a 3, which is good because most of the coins of this type i saw were 1821, and this is actually the nicest one of this type i remember seeing, here's a snapshot i've taken of the Portuguese Gomes catalog (6th edition - 2013), your coin ref. is 06.02 :
As you see, there is some differences between this type and the one depicted in KM (KM#370), i really advise to retire the coin from its "pocket piece" service and put it in your collection.
<< <i> It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way. >>
A lot of them are struck poorly, and they wheight a bit all over the place since they were mainly emergency coins, but usually between 28 and 40 grams, it really looks to me that the last digit is a 3, which is good because most of the coins of this type i saw were 1821, and this is actually the nicest one of this type i remember seeing, here's a snapshot i've taken of the Portuguese Gomes catalog (6th edition - 2013), your coin ref. is 06.02 :
As you see, there is some differences between this type and the one depicted in KM (KM#370), i really advise to retire the coin from its "pocket piece" service and put it in your collection.
Jose >>
this is exciting news I guess it will have to come out of the pocket in light of it. I'm in Massachusetts , there is a significant Portuguese population spreading out from the New Bedford area. It's an old famous whaling port , I wonder if the piece got to the area with a sailor and wound up passed down through a family be sold to this dealer.
He lets me dig freely through his foreign stuff , I mostly hit the silver stockpile but I've gotten a few coppers over the years. I will look through them again next week for more similar items.
Embarassing story. I bought a gold 7.5 roubles piece and thought long after it was purchased there was a strong possibility is was fake based on it's weight (this was back when gold was cheaper and I was single (meaning ready cash was more available) )
Anyway. I actually carried it as a pocket piece for a month, using it as a ball mark when playing golf. turns out, there was an off-size for 7.5 rouble pieces I wasn't aware of. yep: real. this has long being sold on the gold run-up
<< <i> this is exciting news I guess it will have to come out of the pocket in light of it. I'm in Massachusetts , there is a significant Portuguese population spreading out from the New Bedford area. It's an old famous whaling port , I wonder if the piece got to the area with a sailor and wound up passed down through a family be sold to this dealer.
He lets me dig freely through his foreign stuff , I mostly hit the silver stockpile but I've gotten a few coppers over the years. I will look through them again next week for more similar items. >>
It looks like a good hunting ground for portuguese coins. As a "rule of thumb", portuguese pre-decimal (1840) copper/bronze coins in decent grade (nice F or better) for less than 5 US$ are always a good deal and flukes will occasionally happen
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<< <i>I grabbed these a month ago for 3$ each at the place I buy silver. I like them but if they are both in the same pocket it makes me walk funny.
If so, it should not be a pocket piece.
I still carry holed pocket pieces in every single key ring of mine: my favorite, a genuine 1833 Greek 5 drs crown that started as an about VF and is now a VG-aF, very shiny, an Umberto 5 lire silver crown for another set of keys, better preserved due to less use of these keys, a copper holed Greek 1869 10 lepta and lately a few 1833-1834 holed Greek minors which aren't very practical to use in key rings because they can barely fit the rings. Lordmarcovan's bust half went to my collection.
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<< <i>Very nice! Congratulations on the portuguese 40 Réis, its the rarest type of those (really, really rare), KM#371 (Oval shield with Joao VI as King of Portugal) and it looks a 1823 to me.
Jose
<< <i>I grabbed these a month ago for 3$ each at the place I buy silver. I like them but if they are both in the same pocket it makes me walk funny.
>>
It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way.
which commemorates the decommissioning of the Navy ship I served aboard.
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It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way. >>
A lot of them are struck poorly, and they wheight a bit all over the place since they were mainly emergency coins, but usually between 28 and 40 grams, it really looks to me that the last digit is a 3, which is good because most of the coins of this type i saw were 1821, and this is actually the nicest one of this type i remember seeing, here's a snapshot i've taken of the Portuguese Gomes catalog (6th edition - 2013), your coin ref. is 06.02 :
[URL=http://s7.photobucket.com/user/josemartins/media/20022014148_zps1ea5bfcb.jpg.html]
As you see, there is some differences between this type and the one depicted in KM (KM#370), i really advise to retire the coin from its "pocket piece" service and put it in your collection.
Jose
<< <i>A ten year thread with my alt id syraq posting too?
Whoa, I thought it was impossible for two IDs of the same user to occupy the same thread at the same time!?!
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This is why I keep resurrecting this thread. It never fails!
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It's struck badly , when I lay it on the image in my old Krause book its smaller than it should be. You can see how its off center and missing part of the rim. The date What are they supposed to weigh ? NGC says $50 in VG but doesn't give a weight. If it were properly struck I'd grade it higher than that there is a lot of detail on the portrait and its a very high relief actually , you can see how the cheek wore down or maybe didn't strike up all the way. >>
A lot of them are struck poorly, and they wheight a bit all over the place since they were mainly emergency coins, but usually between 28 and 40 grams, it really looks to me that the last digit is a 3, which is good because most of the coins of this type i saw were 1821, and this is actually the nicest one of this type i remember seeing, here's a snapshot i've taken of the Portuguese Gomes catalog (6th edition - 2013), your coin ref. is 06.02 :
[URL=http://s7.photobucket.com/user/josemartins/media/20022014148_zps1ea5bfcb.jpg.html]
As you see, there is some differences between this type and the one depicted in KM (KM#370), i really advise to retire the coin from its "pocket piece" service and put it in your collection.
Jose >>
this is exciting news
He lets me dig freely through his foreign stuff , I mostly hit the silver stockpile but I've gotten a few coppers over the years. I will look through them again next week for more similar items.
Anyway. I actually carried it as a pocket piece for a month, using it as a ball mark when playing golf. turns out, there was an off-size for 7.5 rouble pieces I wasn't aware of. yep: real. this has long being sold on the gold run-up
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this is exciting news
He lets me dig freely through his foreign stuff , I mostly hit the silver stockpile but I've gotten a few coppers over the years. I will look through them again next week for more similar items.
It looks like a good hunting ground for portuguese coins. As a "rule of thumb", portuguese pre-decimal (1840) copper/bronze coins in decent grade (nice F or better) for less than 5 US$ are always a good deal and flukes will occasionally happen
Jose
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