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Sate Quarters MS67..68..69

What would it take for a State Quarter to be graded MS 67,68 and 69.I have lots of different ones with a couple of dings,some with small scratches,some with small round circles(like stains) and some so bad that they are not worth a .25.I want to send some in for grading but then again I do not want to waste my hard earned retirement
dollars.Will appreciate all feedback.
Thank you
Silverandvinyl
leon

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My experience between a 67 and 68 is often luster. I have several 67's that are 99%+ spotless with hardly a nick but don't have the blinding luster like the 68's. I have never been lucky enough to get a 69 but it must be perfect to the naked eye with blinding luster!! You would be better off buying 67's-68's imho on eBay. The 2004's in 67 are pretty cheap. I have a box full of 67's that I won't sell because I will not even come close to recovering my grading investment. If you see spots or nicks with the naked eye don't waste your money!! Chris


  • << <i>I want to send some in for grading >>


    Why? Do you just feel left out if you aren't sending money to PCGS? That you aren't able to join in on the whine sessions about how long it is taking for your coins to come back? The very fact that you had to ask this question should indicate that you probably can't pick out the top quality pieces that would come back at those grade levels. If you felt confident that you could, you would be searching vast quantities of quarters looking for them and submitting them. No one can really TELL you what you are looking for, you have to learn by SEEING what kinds of pieces the services are calling those grades. "They should have great luster!" What does great luster look like? "They should be fully struck!" What does 'fully struck' look like? "They should have almost no marks!" How many marks is too many? And even when you can answer those questions consistantly you will still have to look through a ton of coins to find the few pieces that will qualify. Otherwise you will just be wasting you "hard earned retirement dollars". And even if you can identify them and submitt them you will still probably lose on a third of your submissions just due to subjectivity of grading.

    Yes if you win you can win big but I just don't think it is worth the headache. I'll get a nice pretty MS-67 for a dollar and be done with it.
  • Stains and scratched coins will NEVER get above MS-66 or even MS-65 no matter how good the luster is.

    Cameron Kiefer


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    << <i>I want to send some in for grading >>


    Why? Do you just feel left out if you aren't sending money to PCGS? That you aren't able to join in on the whine sessions about how long it is taking for your coins to come back? The very fact that you had to ask this question should indicate that you probably can't pick out the top quality pieces that would come back at those grade levels. If you felt confident that you could, you would be searching vast quantities of quarters looking for them and submitting them. No one can really TELL you what you are looking for, you have to learn by SEEING what kinds of pieces the services are calling those grades. "They should have great luster!" What does great luster look like? "They should be fully struck!" What does 'fully struck' look like? "They should have almost no marks!" How many marks is too many? And even when you can answer those questions consistantly you will still have to look through a ton of coins to find the few pieces that will qualify. Otherwise you will just be wasting you "hard earned retirement dollars". And even if you can identify them and submitt them you will still probably lose on a third of your submissions just due to subjectivity of grading.

    Yes if you win you can win big but I just don't think it is worth the headache. I'll get a nice pretty MS-67 for a dollar and be done with it. >>



    Conder, I totally agree. This was a lesson I learned the hard way a few years ago. I submitted coins that I thought to be 67s that came back 66s. Fortunately I was able to sell them off on eBAY before the glut of 67s and 68s hit the market. Outside of PR69DCAMs (silver only) I have been staying away from SQs. Moreover, the US Mint's quality of SQs in proof/mint sets has been subpar JMHO. If I was to collect MS SQs, I'd go for the 68s or 67s depending on the pops.

    EDIT: If anyone submits a MS SQ to PCGS and it comes back at a grade lower than 67, they will have tough time selling on eBay today. JMHO
  • jomjom Posts: 3,441 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good job, Conder! I collect SQ's but I just go to a local shop owner (during the Long Beach show usually) and pick thru his stash. image I find the best I can and throw them in a Dansco. The cost? About 50 Cents a piece.

    I don't have a clue why people would want to pay for the slabbed coin let alone wasting money sending them into the TPGs. After all, how are my coins going to tone if they are in a slab? image

    jom
  • Thank you for all the feed back.You all have some very good points.I think I'll just sit on the ones that I feel will make a 68 or 69.I might just buy a couple of the graded ones (68..69) and compare them with the ones I have.
    Thank you again
    silverandvinyl
    leon
  • MS68's, like was stated require amazing luster (frosty looks) and near perfection to the naked eye. A small trivial tick in an unobvious place is allowed but if you have a tick in the fields or on the face or shoulder, forget it. 67's are 68's with maybe a tick or two (small) that preclude 68, or a 68 technically without the luster. Buy a mint set from last year (unopened) and look at the "D" mint quarters, you are likely to see the luster that it takes to make 68, and maybe the perfection. If you are getting your coins from anywhere but the mint, good luck.

    Cheers,

    brian
  • TWQGTWQG Posts: 3,145 ✭✭


    << <i>and some so bad that they are not worth a .25. >>

    -I'd take those off your hands for 20 cents each.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't let the anti-slab, anti-modern fools control your decision to enter the market. If you learn to grade the modern quarters you can make money and save yourself slabbing fees on common state quarters. It's a dam shame that people will tell to avoid learning how to grade to PCGS standards because of the fees and the supposed "trap" the evil PCGS people set to get you to send 100's of quarters each week. What a bunch of BS. I enjoy going to coin shows and cherrypicking MS67+ moderns. Poor me, I just sold a MI (p) quarters two weeks ago for $160+ that I rec'd from a $16 set from the mint.

    Buy a grading set from eBay...ie....MS66, MS67, MS68. That will give you true idea about what you will be getting yourself into. If you don't feel comfortable with their standards...stay away. But don't let clueless, anti-modern people influence your decision to enter this market.

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,022 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TTT

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